Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - Part 7

[misslane38]

Yeah, she was a house wife.

Nope. A housewife is defined as: a married woman whose main occupation is caring for her family, managing household affairs, and doing housework.

Notice how it says that housework needs to be the woman's "main" occupation, which doesn't fit with the facts of what Lois was doing. Not only did Clark and Lois share the load when it came to household affairs, Lois had several published books where she exposed crime and corruption that she worked on and wrote while in hiding. She also worked for the local paper where they lived; she never stopped working as a newspaper reporter for any significant period of time. J.K. Rowling was married when she wrote some of the final Harry Potter books. Was she just a housewife just because she did her work from home and was married? I should think not. Lois has also returned to work at the Daily Planet where she was undercover as her New 52 self investigating the mysterious "Fake Clark." She has been working as an investigative reporter and author the whole time. She, like most modern women, balanced career and family. To call her just a housewife is an unfair and reductive as well as wholly inaccurate description of her activities during this period in her life.

Need more proof? Read these interviews (1, 2). Need more? I can get out my scans.

 

[misslane38]

Yeah, she was a house wife.

Spoiler

Looks like housewifery to me.

A moment or slice of her life. This was another:

 

[BlueLanternKal]

And she wrote from home. When she wasn't being a house wife. The only book of hers that required any muckraking was the Intergang one. All the others were based on philosophy and economics that were prevalent in the Post Crisis DCU.

Look I know you love your Mary Sue and all, but don't try to change things. She just started working at the Planet again like 4 issues ago. LOL

That's 10 years of being a housewife... as if it's some type of crime that Lois wasn't the center of the universe.

 

[misslane38]

And she wrote from home. When she wasn't being a house wife. The only book of hers that required any muckraking was the Intergang one. All the others were based on philosophy and economics that were prevalent in the Post Crisis DCU.

Look I know you love your Mary Sue and all, but don't try to change things. She just started working at the Planet again like 4 issues ago. LOL

The definition of housewife has nothing to do with the place where you do your work. Even if she wrote books about economics from her home, that means she was engaged in work that was not home related while she worked from home. To recap, housewife is a word that refers to a woman whose primary occupation is to take care of the home. It's not referring to a person who works from home like so many authors do. Lois went out into the field to investigate Intergang. She worked at her local paper both in California and in New York. She also rejoined the staff at The Daily Planet. So when she didn't have a full-time gig as a reporter, she was writing books.

Look, I know you know you are wrong and can't face the facts or address the interviews I posted or the fact that she's worked at newspapers (local in two states and the DP) or deal with what the actual definition of housewife is, so maybe discussing this with you is pointless.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Haha she was a housewife that wrote from home. A pyramid's worth of hieroglyphics won't change that. But feel free to go on for another 30 paragraphs. I'm sure there's someone out there waiting for you to turn a grain of sand into a desert as you present them with the "truth".

 

[misslane38]

Haha she was a housewife that wrote from home. A pyramid's worth of hieroglyphics won't change that. But feel free to go on for another 30 paragraphs. I'm sure there's someone out there waiting for you to turn a grain of sand into a desert as you present them with the "truth".

Stephen King writes from home. Stephen King is not a housewife. Lois Lane wrote nonfiction books from home. Lois Lane is not a housewife. She also wrote for local newspapers in California and New York. She currently writes for the Daily Planet. She has never not been employed as a writer. You don't seem to know what words mean.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Haha she was a housewife that wrote from home. A pyramid's worth of hieroglyphics won't change that. But feel free to go on for another 30 paragraphs. I'm sure there's someone out there waiting for you to turn a grain of sand into a desert as you present them with the "truth".

I honestly did not know, but took a guess. Her character just made sense to make her a housewife. Good for them.

 

[KillerWolf]

You haven't read Rebirth at all, have you? Lois wrote books under the pseudonym Author X. She wrote for the local paper. She currently works for the Daily Planet. She never quit anything. She was a writer and continues to be a writer. She never stopped.

Probably more than New 52. Wasn't keeping up with latest issues, though. Anyway, as I understood it, she is writing for Daily Planet not at Daily Planet, her primary occupation being raising Jonathan at that secluded farm of theirs. It is definitely different from Lois of older days who was always investigating and getting in danger. More responsible as well, given that Clark needed to remain hidden and she has a child to care about. I really don't see what's the problem with her being a housewife after decades of being portrayed as a working woman, I thought it added an interesting dynamic to her character, being first and foremost a mother to her child.

 

[Mad Love]

A moment or slice of her life. This was another:

I love seeing Lois in purple. <3

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Stephen King writes from home. Stephen King is not a housewife. Lois Lane wrote nonfiction books from home. Lois Lane is not a housewife. She also wrote for local newspapers in California and New York. She currently writes for the Daily Planet. She has never not been employed as a writer. You don't seem to know what words mean.

Stephen King is bald ass stay at home dad too. So what? Lois is still a housewife. She makes dinner by seven and folds all the laundry. Helps Jon with his homework. All that good stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if she started smoking again like back in the day.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

Blue, I don't believe a woman who does a job at home that pays them is necessarily a house wife. If Lois gets paid for her work and the work has to do with a profession then that's not a house wife. It's a wife who works from home but not a house wife. I don't read the comics and I know very little about the Author X stuff; but I think you guys are only debating semantics and have different definitions of what a house wife is.
If a woman has a full time job selling teller marketer crap over the phone from home that doesn't make her a house wife; it makes her one of the lucky people who gets to work from home.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Sweet lawd.

How did my random joke turn to this?

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

Narcissus this is your fault?! Do you see what happens when you don't appreciate the awesomeness that is Lois Lane?! ;p

 

[The Guard]

I think once the public becomes aware of other beings like parademons, New Gods, Amazon demigods, Atlantean royalty, and other godlike metahumans, the focus on Superman alone as a messianic figure will fade. He'll be representative more of a paradigm shift in what sort of beings are out there in the world and the universe rather than a singular figure of divine mystery.

I think it's fairly clear that the world ultimately more or less see him as one of them at the end of BVS. Or at least that they want to.

After his death, the "god" statue is gone and is not replaced. It has been replaced by a much simpler memorial.

He is given the human funeral of a fallen soldier, like a mortal.

 

[misslane38]

Stephen King is bald ass stay at home dad too. So what? Lois is still a housewife. She makes dinner by seven and folds all the laundry. Helps Jon with his homework. All that good stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if she started smoking again like back in the day.

As shown in Superman: Lois & Clark #2, Lois worked for the local newspaper, The Valley News, when Jon was an infant/toddler. She wrote pieces about flower shows. It was frustrating, but she did it to earn income for her family. As Jon grew up and started school, she stopped writing for her local paper and instead focused on important nonfiction books. As she said in Superman: Lois & Clark #5, "It'll be nice having time to write. Not mall openings for the Valley paper. I'm talking real investigative work." Clark even reacts to Lois by saying, "Despite your accomplishments, you've been working far beneath your skill level. I'm sorry." To which Lois responds, "We're a family. I did what was necessary to generate income. Not like you could crush coal into diamonds." She was a breadwinner for the family who contributed valuable income that helped keep a roof over their head and food in their bellies. Her work only increased when she took on her role as Author X, responsible for the following books:

Fortress Wall Street: America's True Ruling Class
Washington Tarnished: Money and Power on the Hill
Integrity Lost
The Glass Ceiling: Thicker Than You Think
Played Dry: Americ's Looming War Over Water

Clark praised her work. "What Lois has done with her books. She's an amazing agent of change. She's bringing awareness and justice with her wits and taken down some dangerous people in the process." He even threw her a party in Superman: Lois & Clark #7 to celebrate her first book, Fortress Wall Street, being published. Her final Author X book about Intergang created a whole subplot in the comics where she was hunted down by the gang. They failed to stop her, though, and in issue #8 she announces that not only did the book go to press, but that it also lead "authorities" to make "widespread arrests." As Lois' publisher once said, Lois was, as Author X, "one of the most celebrated authors alive" (Superman: Lois & Clark #1).

After New 52 Superman died, and Convergence Superman took his place, they moved from California to New York. Briefly, Lois paused her work to help with the transition. As soon as there was a moment's peace, she was out looking for work, which you can see when she asks the editor of the local paper, whom she meets at the fair her family attends, whether there was a place for her to work (Superman #7). It's not long after that she learns that her New 52 counterpart has also died, and she takes her place at The Daily Planet where she launches into an investigation into Fake Clark that has been playing out in the Rebirth books for months.

Given all of the work that Lois did that both raised income for her family and helped to create important change in the world, it seems incredibly inaccurate and unfair to reduce her to a housewife.

 

[Ivan Drago]

#Misslaneisright

 

[BlueLanternKal]

As shown in Superman: Lois & Clark #2, Lois worked for the local newspaper, The Valley News, when Jon was an infant/toddler. She wrote pieces about flower shows. It was frustrating, but she did it to earn income for her family. As Jon grew up and started school, she stopped writing for her local paper and instead focused on important nonfiction books. As she said in Superman: Lois & Clark #5, "It'll be nice having time to write. Not mall openings for the Valley paper. I'm talking real investigative work." Clark even reacts to Lois by saying, "Despite your accomplishments, you've been working far beneath your skill level. I'm sorry." To which Lois responds, "We're a family. I did what was necessary to generate income. Not like you could crush coal into diamonds." She was a breadwinner for the family who contributed valuable income that helped keep a roof over their head and food in their bellies.

Fortress Wall Street: America's True Ruling Class
Washington Tarnished: Money and Power on the Hill
Integrity Lost
The Glass Ceiling: Thicker Than You Think
Played Dry: Americ's Looming War Over Water

Clark praised her work. "What Lois has done with her books. She's an amazing agent of change. She's bringing awareness and justice with her wits and taken down some dangerous people in the process." He even through her a party in Superman: Lois & Clark #7 to celebrate her first book, Fortress Wall Street, being published. Her final Author X book about Intergang created a whole subplot in the comics where she was hunted down by the gang. They failed to stop her, though, and in issue #8 she announces that not only did the book go to press, but that it also lead "authorities" to make "widespread arrests." As Lois' publisher once said, Lois was, as Author X, "one of the most celebrated authors alive" (Superman: Lois & Clark #1).

After New 52 Superman died, and Convergence Superman took his place, they moved from California to New York. Briefly, Lois paused her work to help with the transition. As soon as there was a moment's peace, she was out looking for work, which you can see when she asks the editor of the local paper, whom she meets at the fair her family attends, whether there was a place for her to work (Superman #7). It's not long after that she learns that her New 52 counterpart has also died, and she takes her place at The Daily Planet where she launches into an investigation into Fake Clark that has been playing out in the Rebirth books for months.

Given all of the work that Lois did that both raised income for her family and helped to create important change in the world, it seems incredibly inaccurate and unfair to reduce her to a housewife.

Still a housewife.

 

[The Guard]

But then since Steppenwolf is the villain I wonder if Superman will align himself with him at first because if Superman is supposed to have amnesia then it would sort of be like Bucky in the sense that Bucky was brainwashed then Superman having amnesia he would be the perfect pawn for Steppenwolf to manipulate

I think if anything, they might sow the seeds of "brainwashed Superman" for a future film, but not go there in JUSTICE LEAGUE.

It could be sort of a secret offshoot of Steppenwolf's main mission on Earth. Doing something that will render Superman a pawn of Darkseid in the future.

 

[misslane38]

Still a housewife.

#AlternativeFacts

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Nah... it's right there in the source. She's a housewife. God forbid a woman be a housewife though. Such a dishonorable profession.

 

[misslane38]

Nah... it's right there in the source. She's a housewife. God forbid a woman be a housewife though. Such a dishonorable profession.

I never said that. I said the opposite, in fact. A housewife is just not the correct word to describe Rebirth Lois. She has never not worked as a writer. When she wasn't writing books, she was writing for local papers. She was her family's sole source of income outside the farm. Her primary occupation was not domestic: raising her son and taking care of household chores. There is no definition of housewife that applies to Lois Lane no matter how noble and important the work of a housewife is to families and society. Lois just was not a housewife. You are wrong, and seem incapable of graciously admitting defeat or engaging with the wealth of evidence I've presented. As a result, and in consideration of this thread's purpose to discuss Cavill, I'll leave it here.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

What was the real Clark doing before returning to superheroics following the death of New 52 Superman?

 

[Wolfgangamadeus]

What was the real Clark doing before returning to superheroics following the death of New 52 Superman?

Just living the family life really. Some small superheroics here and there but he let the New 52 Superman handle the big stuff since he realized he wasn't this world's Superman.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

This frelling place... Shiva H. Vishnu...

 

[Wolfgangamadeus]

This frelling place... Shiva H. Vishnu...

Those are two different gods though