BvS Henry Cavill IS Superman - - - - - Part 19

[lc23]

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

 

[Tra-El]

I think it's tracking for $20m opening weekend. But internationally it could do well.Don't know what you were expecting this film to make anyway. It would do well do reach $200m worldwide.

Anything under 1 bil is a flop, yo!

 

[jokesonm3]

Well its a $75m budget, so what are we talking here, double? triple?

honestly as long as it breaks even and WB commissions a sequel that id be happy

 

[Captain Shazam]

Well, talk about bromance! Affleck gonna get jealous.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Well its a $75m budget, so what are we talking here, double? triple?

honestly as long as it breaks even and WB commissions a sequel that id be happy

75 mill budget factor in about 15-20 mill of marketing so anything above 100mill is profit.

 

[Superchan]

75 mill budget factor in about 15-20 mill of marketing so anything above 100mill is profit.

You have to consider that the studio gets about 50-55% of the box office gross so the film would need to make about 200 million worldwide to break even or to make a modest profit.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

I wish I could see it this weekend so I can be part of the 1st numbers. I don't think it will be #1 I think SOoC will get that.

 

[sf2]

Back from Uncle it was fun. Those that have said more style than substance are correct but nothing wrong with that sometimes. Give it a 7/10. Armie I liked in this movie.

Indeed. It is Just like most of the hollywood movies suffers from the poor main storyline n lack of touching moment n 'human feeling'. Cavill plays almost exactly the same character Bomer did in white collar.
anyway it's a fun, stylish n beautiful movie .

 

[Black Narcissus]

UNCLE was ok. I'm honestly more impressed with the performances then with the movie as whole. The film was all over the place. Henry and Armie were good tho. 6/10

Also, I'm smitten by Alicia Vikander.

DCEU better get on it, mayne.

 

[slumcat]

People will hate my post here, but if honest opinions are tolerable, maybe someone will find value.

So I saw the movie and I was reasonably looking forward to it having mildly liked Ritchie's last 2 films. I also saw Mission Impossible and it was a nice lesson because Tom Cruise exactly left UNCLE to do Mission Impossible. Let me start by saying that he made the right choice.

UNCLE seems to lack the energy of Ritchie's usual films. It is especially lethargic in a way, it seems glacial for a supposedly summer tentpole film. And I think much of the bewilderment is due to the leads. I think this movie is wildly miscast. From the trailers Cavill looked good but in the movie he seems rather ill-suited for the role. Hammer was also cast against type but made it work. But Cavill, I think the accent was a huge challenge as he said in his interviews. He seemed very uncomfortable talking in an American accent.

This role is not going to do any favors to Cavill. I think the reason he might have less dialog or less of fast dialog in MOS is his American accent. There is much more dialog in UNCLE than MOS and he kinda struggles with it. His best bits of acting are when he's not speaking for sure. I think Snyder might be purposefully be using him that way.

And the film is kinda strangely scripted so that no one character emerges as a lead though I got the feeling that with a big star in the role, Solo might have been the lead. Cavill is actually billed second in the opening titles, so it's not just BvS where he's being demoted.

The best performances are undoubtedly by the women. Their utter confidence and panache specially shines through when you see the men struggling though Hammer is decent. I don't see a sequel happening at all. The movie's kinda a misfire I would say.

I think a wise career move for Cavill might be to do a British indie with lots of dialog. I think it might help him try out his chops in his comfort zone.

 

[sf2]

Well its a $75m budget, so what are we talking here, double? triple?

honestly as long as it breaks even and WB commissions a sequel that id be happy

With a better n creative script I would like to see the sequel. I love seeing the oldies n the vintage styles. However it's unlikely as it has done poorly.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

I think it's tracking for $20m opening weekend. But internationally it could do well.Don't know what you were expecting this film to make anyway. It would do well do reach $200m worldwide.

It's looking like a 15M OW. Could be lower when actuals come in

They should've released this in March or April. Same week as Compton was a bad idea

 

[-Kal-Elle-]

I saw UNCLE last night with 5 friends and we all enjoyed it. It was a lot funnier than I anticipated - I knew there would be humour but there was more than I was expecting, which was nice. The movie wasn't without its issues - the main thing for me was that the last act was a bit all over the place. But it still was fun and enjoyable for all of us - two girls, three guys.

Reviews have been mixed so it's understandable our views here will be mixed, but I completely disagree with some of Slumcat's points so am going to give my spin on a few things he said. And for the record, while I am a Cavill fan I am more than capable of criticising him when I think he's poor in a role or inconsistent! (eg. Immortals!)

I think this movie is wildly miscast. From the trailers Cavill looked good but in the movie he seems rather ill-suited for the role. Hammer was also cast against type but made it work. But Cavill, I think the accent was a huge challenge as he said in his interviews. He seemed very uncomfortable talking in an American accent.

I thought they were both well cast. I really liked Hammer, which I wasn't expecting. But we all agreed Cavill gave the stronger performance. He didn't seem uncomfortable at all with his accent, and that was one of the things my friends commented on after - how good it was and also how well it lended itself to his lines and character and made his quips funnier. But we are Brits, so perhaps we wouldn't pick up on subtle errors as well as an American, but if we're talking about him seeming uncomfortable, well I didn't see that at all.

This role is not going to do any favors to Cavill. I think the reason he might have less dialog or less of fast dialog in MOS is his American accent. I think Snyder might be purposefully be using him that way.

Couldn't disagree more here! However well this movie does, it's going to do Cavill some favors. For people who have only seen him as Supes, it will show he can absolutely play someone totally different. He had great comedic timing IMO (some of his expressions were just hilarious too) and showing he can do humour and more light-hearted roles can only be a good thing. (Also, his accent in MoS was totally different to this and he nailed that IMO so...)

And the film is kinda strangely scripted so that no one character emerges as a lead though I got the feeling that with a big star in the role, Solo might have been the lead. Cavill is actually billed second in the opening titles, so it's not just BvS where he's being demoted.

There are two leads. Hammer was billed first in opening credits, Cavill was billed first in closing credits. Cavill was billed first in all the ads/TV spots so if anyone is being demoted, its not him.

The best performances are undoubtedly by the women. Their utter confidence and panache specially shines through when you see the men struggling though Hammer is decent. I don't see a sequel happening at all. The movie's kinda a misfire I would say.

Disagree here too - because surprisingly, I wasn't overly impressed with Alicia Vikander. I love her on the whole and think she's an excellent actress, but she was a little flat here in my opinion. She had some great moments, but from my POV no way did she outshine the male leads. Maybe it was just a character thing but I felt she didn't add much to the movie on the whole apart from in terms of the plot and her relationship with Ilya. Elizabeth Debicki I thought was fantastic, so I agree with you there!

This is the thing - all of this just comes down to personal opinion so there's no right or wrong. I've read reviews saying Hammer and Cavill's chemistry is the best thing about the movie; I've read others saying they have absolutely none whatsoever. I've read reviews saying Alicia Vikander is the best thing about the movie; I completely disagreed. Some reviewers totally 'got' Cavill's accent and thought it was great; others thought weird or misplaced or whatever. Critics aren't necessarily right or wrong - it's just THEIR opinion.

 

[Matt.S99]

I really enjoyed "The Man From U. N. C. L. E.".
It's was a really fun film. I thought both leads did great.

 

[slumcat]

@KalElle

I went away with Andrew Jack, our dialogue coach, and we worked on something which is similar to Cary Grant but not quite the same. We really enjoyed the lilt and intonation. So we played around with that a little bit and we tried to make it my own. On the set, there were certain words which Guy would say, ‘That sounds weird. That doesn’t sound like a real word. Can you change that, can you elongate the consonant or the vowel?’ It ended up getting so complicated that at one stage, it was really difficult for me to focus on the performance. One morning, Guy eventually walked up to me and went, ‘It just sounds like you are an English actor who is doing a terrible American accent.’ So we then decided to go more American, and emphasize the R’s and elongate the vowels.

A quote by Cavill - he clearly struggled, by his own admission. I think the thing with accents is that you can kinda hold it when you are speaking in an even tone, but if you how to shout or modulate it, you lose it. I think that might be a reason Cavill speaks in a constant deadpan in this film. I got the sense in some scenes that he was whispering to hold his accent. Even Hammer's accent slipped a bit I think.

 

[souperman]

75 mill budget factor in about 15-20 mill of marketing so anything above 100mill is profit.

Ask Art Buchwald and Eddie Murphy about Hollywood accounting...

There never is any profit !

 

[lc23]

I saw the film last night with a friend, too. We both loved it. She actually said she was pleasantly surprised at how good she found it and wouldn't hesitate to watch a sequel.

As for HC's accent, I paid very close attention every time he spoke to see if I could "spot" any slip-ups, and there was only one noticeable instance. Other than that, he sounded very smooth and natural throughout. His accent was supposed to sound unusual and affected. Some people just can't or refuse to comprehend it and that's too bad, but that doesn't mean he did a terrible job. Quite the opposite. And I agree with Kalle-El that HC's comedic timing was spot-on.

 

[Rapunzel]

@slumcat-- Even if you disliked UNCLE, I don't understand how you could think Cavill is "wildly miscast." He absolutely looks the part, more so than Tom Cruise, who was originally cast. Also, Solo's deadpan nature is part of the plot. I guarantee it was intentionally played that way. The movie's satirical in many way, particularly with Solo's character mocking the superspy Bond type.

You may think he wasn't great, that the movie sucked, and others could have done it better, but wildly miscast is absolutely untrue.

 

[jokesonm3]

I really want henry to be in a British blockbuster film so he can show of that gorgeous English accent with perfection

 

[Nemeres]

I think a wise career move for Cavill might be to do a British indie with lots of dialog. I think it might help him try out his chops in his comfort zone.

I wish he'd do this right here.

 

[-Kal-Elle-]

@Slumcat, I know he struggled with it initially. But then they found how they wanted it to sound and used that through the movie. As lc23 says, his accent was supposed to sound unusual and affected - they said Solo aspired to the British upper class and had that slightly affected way of speaking, as many did then. But I do get that if you don't know that, his accent may sound strange.

I would love to see him use his natural accent too. I don't think we've heard that since The Tudors?!

 

[theotherme]

Whatever you want to say about the movie, the promo tour has been gold:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharris/henry-cavill-armie-hammer-never-have-i-ever#.kcAm5M7xw

Henry Cavill and Armie Hammer play "Never Have I Ever"

 

[Zoom]

It's looking like a 15M OW. Could be lower when actuals come in

They should've released this in March or April. Same week as Compton was a bad idea

Now it's below 13M. A flop, indeed.

 

[-Kal-Elle-]

^ LOL at Cav-El: "She was just a very volatile person in general" t:

Agree, the promo tour has been so funny. My personal highlight so far is Armie and Henry reading from the phonebook, that genuinely cracked me up:

[YT]watch?v=Iiqjp4B_thk[/YT]