BvS Henry Cavill IS Superman - - - - - - Part 20

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[John-An]

Hey fellas it got improved by A.C

 

[jokesonm3]

20 pages dedicated to the Man of Steel himself Henry Cavill!

 

[theotherme]

This was from the last thread but I don't know how to bring a quote forward...

The Batsolo is pretty much confirmed on Empire
And JL2 is JL PART 2. they probably will shoot back to back and of course Cavill and the other cast will be there, I bet it's part of his contract as the other cast. It's a two part movie.

The Bat solo is pretty much confirmed, yes.

We do not have any official word that JL1 and JL2 will shoot back to back, and in actual official terms, nobody is listed for JL2 except Zack as director. We can presume/hope that all the major cast will be back, but it's not official for JL2 the way it is for JL1. I'm just talking about things we know for sure because there are already too many rumors flying around.

Henry confirmed during one of the UNCLE interviews that his DC deal was 3 films, MoS and BvS already in the can, and JL1 shooting next year. There's no reason for us to think he wouldn't be back for JL2, that's not what I'm saying at all. I presume it will happen, but it's not part of his current contract.

Also guessing Gal's deal was for BvS, WW, and JL1 - which would mean she'd have to renew for JL2 as well, but we haven't heard her actually confirm (as far as I know) that her original signing was for 3 movies. Henry signed first, remember, so they may have had later people sign for more movies as the the DCEU plans expanded.

 

[John-An]

Yeah you have a point.. but I have a feeling that Justice League (due to other actors and actress deals in other films) will probably be shoot back to back. And as for the contracts, if they want them they will expand or do another movie deal contract. I think that will be heard after Batman v Superman releases. That's the movie they are waiting for making other steps forward.

 

[AnneFan]

"Maybe Superman was a beacon for them to crawl out of the shadows."

I like this name drop in the Suicide Squad trailer. Those who claim Superman isn't going to be an important character in the new timeline are mistaken.

 

[theotherme]

Yeah you have a point.. but I have a feeling that Justice League (due to other actors and actress deals in other films) will probably be shoot back to back. And as for the contracts, if they want them they will expand or do another movie deal contract. I think that will be heard after Batman v Superman releases. That's the movie they are waiting for making other steps forward.

Yes, I think they're probably waiting for BvS to hit before renewing contracts, which only makes sense. Fortunately, all of the main cast seem enthusiastic about being part of the DCEU, so there probably won't be any problems there. And WB doesn't seem have the kind of penny-pinching reputation Marvel had (at least during the Ike Perlmutter reign - thank goodness that's over for the MCU) which led to some pretty tense renegotiations for the Avengers cast. I doubt we'll see that kind of drama on the DCEU side.

For that reason though, I don't think JL1 and JL2 are going to shoot back to back, as BvS won't be released until JL1 is well into pre-production.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

There's new comments from Snyder that deal with the new rumor about WB wanting more Batman. Can't post the link...because I don't know how. But he essentially said its mostly balanced and the only reason there might be slightly more Batman is because this is technically his first introduction.

 

[-Kal-Elle-]

Link for the new Snyder interview is here http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/10/zack-snyder-sorry-marvel-batman-v-superman-transcends-superhero-movies.html

Here is the relevant quote:

He also addressed recent rumors that the focus of Batman v. Superman is skewing more Batman than Superman with six months left to go before it hits theaters.

“Only in that because it’s a different Batman than the Batman that was in the Chris Nolan movies, so we have a little bit more explaining to do—and you justhad a whole Superman movie,” he smiled. “But I think only in that way, because you need to understand where Batman is with everything. And that’s more toward the beginning, but it evens back out as it goes on.”

I may be reading too much into this and don’t want to seem overly pessimistic, but Cavill has said a few things recently that seemed a bit discouraging to me, as a huge Supes fan, and Snyder's admission - while not bad per se - isn't exactly helping. Cavill's said a few variations of the quote below and I can't help thinking there's a reason for them.

“I have no power over the script,” Cavill admits, “and Chris Terrio is a very good writer. All I can do is keep my fingers crossed that the big cheeses at the top care as much about the character as I do.”

Maybe there's nothing in it. But apparent favourtism towards Batman is starting to bum me out a bit.

 

[G.Godfrey]

Maybe there's nothing in it. But apparent favourtism towards Batman is starting to bum me out a bit.

As a fan of both characters (a bit bigger of Supes) this doesn't surprise me or bum me out. It was always like that and always will be. Supes may have ''started it all'' but Batman will always be the cooler of the two (in the eyes of the public and studio exces) and the cornerstone of anything DC related. No point in getting hung up about it, imo anyway. *shrugs*

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Sounds reasonable to me. We all know the origin of Batman but in terms of specifics which will be tied into this new universe and the plot of BvS in particular, well there had to be some setting up. I don't see how that is inevitably going to be spun by some as this being a "Batmancentric" film with him as the star or something. Once again... Even when Batman/Bruce is on screen more likely than not, his actions and dialog will be in reaction to Superman. That's hardly shunting Clark off to the side.

 

[STARMAN]

Since this is not a standalone Superman film, I'm fine with the screen time being evenly distributed.

 

[AnneFan]

Since this is not a standalone Superman film, I'm fine with the screen time being evenly distributed.

Me too. Superman can be the driver of the story, but I'd hope both characters had considerable screen time each in what is a versus movie.

 

[-Kal-Elle-]

Since this is not a standalone Superman film, I'm fine with the screen time being evenly distributed.

Oh I agree. If it IS evenly distributed. Saying it “evens out” more in the second half doesn’t necessarily mean it is though. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[-Kal-Elle-]

I suppose part of my issue is we don’t have a standalone Supes movie solidly confirmed. I know it’s been announced, but in the fickle world of film that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s 100% happening. It could get pushed back, and pushed back, and pushed back. For the record, I do feel confident we will get one, but confirmation would be nice, particularly when we know we’re getting standalone Batman films. And that’s after an excellent Batman trilogy recently.

After the Reeve movies, IMO Superman fans have had nothing to get excited about – I’m not counting the hugely disappointing Superman Returns. We finally get a guy who is PERFECT for Superman and it doesn’t feel like it’s being capitalized on. IT MAY WELL BE, I know that, and I know I may be reading too much into this. But it’s just a thought in my head.

Batman is, as the OP said, the cornerstone of DC. Who’s to say then that they won’t decide to make Batman the leader of the JL, and have everything center around him? I don’t have a problem with Batman being the cornerstone of DC; I’m excited to see Batfleck, I think he will be incredible and I hope he does gets several solo movies, which I will really look forward to seeing. But I don’t want it to be at the expense of Superman. I want several Superman solo movies too. I really don’t think that’s being too greedy!

Synder’s quote is fine (and understandable), but I guess I am aligning it with the several comments Cavill has made this year which seem to imply he has some doubts over the importance of Superman to WB. I can’t remember exactly what the other quotes said, but I remember reading them and thinking it seemed like a weird thing to say. And he’s done it several times.

Who knows. But either way, now would be a really good time to announce concrete details of MoS2! Preferably with George Miller directing!

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

George Miller+the MOS cast would be beast.

 

[Micromind]

Link for the new Snyder interview is here http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/10/zack-snyder-sorry-marvel-batman-v-superman-transcends-superhero-movies.html

Here is the relevant quote:

He also addressed recent rumors that the focus of Batman v. Superman is skewing more Batman than Superman with six months left to go before it hits theaters.

“Only in that because it’s a different Batman than the Batman that was in the Chris Nolan movies, so we have a little bit more explaining to do—and you justhad a whole Superman movie,” he smiled. “But I think only in that way, because you need to understand where Batman is with everything. And that’s more toward the beginning, but it evens back out as it goes on.”

I may be reading too much into this and don’t want to seem overly pessimistic, but Cavill has said a few things recently that seemed a bit discouraging to me, as a huge Supes fan, and Snyder's admission - while not bad per se - isn't exactly helping. Cavill's said a few variations of the quote below and I can't help thinking there's a reason for them.

“I have no power over the script,” Cavill admits, “and Chris Terrio is a very good writer. All I can do is keep my fingers crossed that the big cheeses at the top care as much about the character as I do.”

Maybe there's nothing in it. But apparent favourtism towards Batman is starting to bum me out a bit.

What many Superman fans fail to understand is the fact that Snyder has been given the responsibility to build-up the DC Cinematic universe, to achieve that goal, he has to build the foundation for other important character which is.. Batman (since the other important character, WW is going to get a solo movie soon), now since we didn't get a solo Batman movie before this (BvS), Snyder has to show and establish this particular version of Batman.

All this will eat-up lot of movie time, there's no way to avoid it, now.. if that makes some Superman fans angry, they will have to accept it and move on.

 

[Micromind]

I suppose part of my issue is we don’t have a standalone Supes movie solidly confirmed. I know it’s been announced, but in the fickle world of film that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s 100% happening. It could get pushed back, and pushed back, and pushed back. For the record, I do feel confident we will get one, but confirmation would be nice, particularly when we know we’re getting standalone Batman films. And that’s after an excellent Batman trilogy recently.

After the Reeve movies, IMO Superman fans have had nothing to get excited about – I’m not counting the hugely disappointing Superman Returns. We finally get a guy who is PERFECT for Superman and it doesn’t feel like it’s being capitalized on. IT MAY WELL BE, I know that, and I know I may be reading too much into this. But it’s just a thought in my head.

Batman is, as the OP said, the cornerstone of DC. Who’s to say then that they won’t decide to make Batman the leader of the JL, and have everything center around him? I don’t have a problem with Batman being the cornerstone of DC; I’m excited to see Batfleck, I think he will be incredible and I hope he does gets several solo movies, which I will really look forward to seeing. But I don’t want it to be at the expense of Superman. I want several Superman solo movies too. I really don’t think that’s being too greedy!

Synder’s quote is fine (and understandable), but I guess I am aligning it with the several comments Cavill has made this year which seem to imply he has some doubts over the importance of Superman to WB. I can’t remember exactly what the other quotes said, but I remember reading them and thinking it seemed like a weird thing to say. And he’s done it several times.

Who knows. But either way, now would be a really good time to announce concrete details of MoS2! Preferably with George Miller directing!

Speaking s a Superman fan, I don't know why some Superman fans are bitter..


I am ready to wait for some time to get a sequel to MOS (MOS 2) because I am fairly satisfied with all that we have got so far.

I mean, I liked Bruce Timm's Superman The Animated Series and JLU series, then numerous animated Superman movies, also I enjoyed Smallville (well, first three seasons and the last season. ), I also liked Superman Returns, then I liked Man of Steel.

Since we will be seeing Cavill again as Superman in BvS, Justice League part 1 and Justice League part 2, I am ready to wait for MOS 2.

 

[-Kal-Elle-]

That's great that you enjoyed all the animations etc but for me it's not the same as an actual film.

And I'm not "bitter" or "angry" if you're directing that at me. I'm expressing a few concerns that I think are perfectly valid considering. We have solo Batman and WW movies confirmed and not yet solo Superman. While I understand they have to introduce these characters to this universe, we also have a lot of negative rumours going around (which I'm aware are probably BS) but as I've said, putting this together with a few not-very-hopeful-sounding comments from the actor playing Superman, has made me feel a little apprehensive.

And I am also happy to wait for MoS2.

 

[snpklsdmbldr]

are people done posting knee jerk reactions from clickbait sites including SHH?

 

[Destructus86]

I get why they are doing it and I'm fine with it. This is the first time we are seeing Batman (in this universe) so they need to expand his presence a bit to give us a good feel for him and who he is...to make it more known this is not NolanBatman

 

[Rowsdower!]

are people done posting knee jerk reactions from clickbait sites including SHH?

No, since Zack Snyder more or less DENYING El Mayimbe's "scoop" is apparently actually his CONFIRMATION of it, according to El Mayimbe, and you've got idiots like Devin Faraci going along with it.

 

[KillerWolf]

What many Superman fans fail to understand is the fact that Snyder has been given the responsibility to build-up the DC Cinematic universe, to achieve that goal, he has to build the foundation for other important character which is.. Batman (since the other important character, WW is going to get a solo movie soon), now since we didn't get a solo Batman movie before this (BvS), Snyder has to show and establish this particular version of Batman.

All this will eat-up lot of movie time, there's no way to avoid it, now.. if that makes some Superman fans angry, they will have to accept it and move on.

Indeed. I don't get what is so hard to understand about it, it was always a given that Batman would need a lot of screen time, as he's a new character in the universe set in MOS and we have to learn about him, especially since he's there to stay and will be equally important character as Superman come Justice League.

Actually, if anyone should be angry at this, it is Batman fans, as we're not getting a Batman origin movie first and we had one for this Superman.

By the way, I am not saying that I want a Batman origin movie, just making a point.

 

[John-An]

"Maybe Superman was a beacon for them to crawl out of the shadows."

I like this name drop in the Suicide Squad trailer. Those who claim Superman isn't going to be an important character in the new timeline are mistaken.

I bet he would inspire metahumans to be heroes.

For that reason though, I don't think JL1 and JL2 are going to shoot back to back, as BvS won't be released until JL1 is well into pre-production.

JL starts filming on spring and BvS hits theaters on March 25th. I think they would make something to promote both... anything for both.

What many Superman fans fail to understand is the fact that Snyder has been given the responsibility to build-up the DC Cinematic universe, to achieve that goal, he has to build the foundation for other important character which is.. Batman (since the other important character, WW is going to get a solo movie soon), now since we didn't get a solo Batman movie before this (BvS), Snyder has to show and establish this particular version of Batman.

All this will eat-up lot of movie time, there's no way to avoid it, now.. if that makes some Superman fans angry, they will have to accept it and move on.

I'm a Superman fan and I'm not angry, espeacilly since it wasn't what ElMaybe said.