BvS Henry Cavill IS Superman - Part 8

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[Boy Scout]

You don't have to put everything in one movie...but if it would make sense to put it in the movie...put it in the movie.

 

[John-An]

which are the things we saw, that made sense, also this universe is not closed, another reason why the did put the essencial and leave some things to set our imagination. to speculate, that's a great part from a released movie.

 

[John-An]

A request for all of us... Can we talk about THIS movie?
Cause the last movie has his own thread and this is for the new things in relation to Cavill's Superman in this upcoming movies not to old and tiring "complains"

 

[Boy Scout]

That sounds like a cop out. They shouldn't answer relevant questions because they might get a sequel? We shouldn't get to know things because we should be able to fill in the blanks ourselves? Come on, man. If we can get 20 minutes of Krypton, we can get a ten second explanation for how Clark is qualified for a job at the DP.

 

[MrsKent26]

I thought it was interesting how MOS showed Clark having odd, humble jobs. But...I'm ready for Clark Kent, reporter.

There's something so fascinating about the fact that one being lives both of these lives:

I know the Kent disguise isn't the best, but I don't care. The Kent identity can be used as a legit part of the plot, basis for exploring why Clark wants to live both lives pictured above and for levity.

 

[John-An]

That sounds like a cop out. They shouldn't answer relevant questions because they might get a sequel? We shouldn't get to know things because we should be able to fill in the blanks ourselves? Come on, man. If we can get 20 minutes of Krypton, we can get a ten second explanation for how Clark is qualified for a job at the DP.

Not really. Krypton was his heritage, Krypton took place big in this.. The DP didn't got too much for Clark. It was for Lois, Perry and in some manner had some inspiration for Clark to be there. We saw at the end that he is going to take place for that job.
The things is my friend... They didn't show it for a reason, that DP at the end begin to take place in Clarks life, and we may know how he got it, but having things like how clever Clark was on jobs (hence that DP job is more serious), that maybe Perry knows, Lois may have helped, some things that really can give you an idea and why not can be explained a really little thing like that in a sequel from the same movieverse?

 

[Herolee10]

I'm very curious to see on how Snyder and company will tackle the "Glasses" issue given their usage of "realism" within their DC Cinematic World.

I mean with today's technology, even if Clark ends up being fortunate enough to avoid meeting people that he would normally encounter as "Superman", another problem would be the pictures that would be taken of him and placed all over the internet for people to look and such, where among those viewers would be the colleagues that he surrounds himself with at work.

So either he manages to avoid getting a clear picture of his face taken or Snyder will forgo the realism and say that no one really can recognize Clark once he puts on those glasses.

 

[MrsKent26]

^ I hope they don't make some complex explanation. It could be a combination of perhaps there aren't many close-up pics of superman, Clark dresses different, wears the glasses, acts different and people don't think that a powerful alien would even bother working at the Daily Planet after he outs himself and performs rescues (they assume he's out there supermaning full time).

 

[John-An]

I thought it was interesting how MOS showed Clark having odd, humble jobs. But...I'm ready for Clark Kent, reporter.

There's something so fascinating about the fact that one being lives both of these lives:

I know the Kent disguise isn't the best, but I don't care. The Kent identity can be used as a legit part of the plot, basis for exploring why Clark wants to live both lives pictured above and for levity.

yeah even with those kind of powers he still want to be the most human possible. the other side wants to help the innocent and the people who need him.

 

[Boy Scout]

Not really. Krypton...

Was going to blow up, no matter what. We didn't need to spend so much time there, especially since everything that happened before the planet blew up was explained to Clark later on in the movie. The Daily Planet, on the other hand, is where Superman will be for the foreseeable future.

None of that has anything to do with the point I was trying to make, which was that it wouldn't have taken very long to explain how Clark was able to land the job. It could've been taken care of with a single line of dialogue.

The things is my friend... They didn't show it for a reason

And what reason would that be? There's no good reason not to explain it. It would've been relevant to the story being told and would not have taken up too much time at all.

why not can be explained a really little thing like that in a sequel from the same movieverse?

It can. It just should've been explained in the first one, because that's the movie in which he got the job. What does it matter after the fact?

 

[Boy Scout]

^ I hope they don't make some complex explanation. It could be a combination of perhaps there aren't many close-up pics of superman, Clark dresses different, wears the glasses, acts different and people don't think that a powerful alien would even bother working at the Daily Planet after he outs himself and performs rescues (they assume he's out there supermaning full time).

I don't think they'll really address it. We'll probably hear a line or two about no one being able to snap a picture of Superman and move on to something else.

 

[John-An]

Was going to blow up, no matter what. We didn't need to spend so much time there, especially since everything that happened before the planet blew up was explained to Clark later on in the movie. The Daily Planet, on the other hand, is where Superman will be for the foreseeable future.

None of that has anything to do with the point I was trying to make, which was that it wouldn't have taken very long to explain how Clark was able to land the job. It could've been taken care of with a single line of dialogue.



And what reason would that be? There's no good reason not to explain it. It would've been relevant to the story being told and would not have taken up too much time at all.



It can. It just should've been explained in the first one, because that's the movie in which he got the job. What does it matter after the fact?

You said it yourself. the future place for Clark. they stablished him and told us about the past of Clark before he was working on there. we saw the DP from Lois and Perrys perspective. In this movie we'll see him in Clark, Lois and Perry perspective. maybe Jimmy? I don't know if he's gonna be there. but I think it could be possible to have a early 20's year or a teenager (seems less likely to happen, but who knows?)

 

[John-An]

I don't think they'll really address it. We'll probably hear a line or two about no one being able to snap a picture of Superman and move on to something else.

I have a feeling that they will adress the other side of Clark Kent to differenciate him from Superman.

 

[Boy Scout]

I have a feeling that they will adress the other side of Clark Kent to differenciate him from Superman.

They'll address the duality, I'm sure. The actual effectiveness of the disguise? Not so much.

 

[Herolee10]

^ I hope they don't make some complex explanation. It could be a combination of perhaps there aren't many close-up pics of superman, Clark dresses different, wears the glasses, acts different and people don't think that a powerful alien would even bother working at the Daily Planet after he outs himself and performs rescues (they assume he's out there supermaning full time).

True, though I think there was one thing that MOS did that really didn't help make this "secret identity" issue any bit easier.

It was the fact that they had Zod announcing to the world that Superman had a civilian identity.

Normally in most incarnations, people don't really think that Superman has a civilian identity and just always stays under the same persona during his off hours. Heck, even Lex thought that the idea of Superman having a civilian identity was laughable given his god-like powers and his (Lex's) inability to comprehend that Superman could "lower" himself to that standard.

On another note, I can't wait to see what kind of wardrobe they create for Henry's Reporter persona.

Would it be too much to ask for them to at least put Clark in a position where he gets to question someone, as a reporter, and even say..."Clark Kent from the Daily Planet"?

It's astounding on how we have yet to really see the "Reporter" persona really used in a effective way when it comes to films.

If it weren't for the "L&C"/"Smallville" series, then we really wouldn't have anything at all in that department.

 

[brownknightrise]

With the cameras we have today, there is absolutely no way that a close up of Superman's face doesn't exist.

S P O I L E R S: If the rumours are true, it's been two years since MOS. Unless he never saved anyone in the city during that time, someone snapped a high resolution photo of him. They also have a freakin statue of the guy.

 

[Boy Scout]

Even if they exist, there's no guarantee they aren't blurry.

You don't need to know exactly what a person's face looks like to make a statue of them. Whoever created it could have just gone with a generic face with a generic expression.

 

[John-An]

They'll address the duality, I'm sure. The actual effectiveness of the disguise? Not so much.

That's one of the many things I most intrigued to see.

 

[MrsKent26]

True, though I think there was one thing that MOS did that really didn't help make this "secret identity" issue any bit easier.

It was the fact that they had Zod announcing to the world that Superman had a civilian identity.

Normally in most incarnations, people don't really think that Superman has a civilian identity and just always stays under the same persona during his off hours. Heck, even Lex thought that the idea of Superman having a civilian identity was laughable given his god-like powers and his (Lex's) inability to comprehend that Superman could "lower" himself to that standard.

On another note, I can't wait to see what kind of wardrobe they create for Henry's Reporter persona.

Would it be too much to ask for them to at least put Clark in a position where he gets to question someone, as a reporter, and even say..."Clark Kent from the Daily Planet"?

It's astounding on how we have yet to really see the "Reporter" persona really used in a effective way when it comes to films.

If it weren't for the "L&C"/"Smallville" series, then we really wouldn't have anything at all in that department.

Yeah, the Kent identity takes some suspension of disbelief, but I'm willing to do it.

I would love to hear him say "Clark Kent from the Daily Planet." I'd probably geek out. I hope they don't skip over the fact that he's a reporter like other supes movies.

I hope he dresses like he did in that one MOS Clark scene: kinda rugged/farmer-ish, kinda dorky, but making an attempt to be professional (jacket).

 

[John-An]

Even if they exist, there's no guarantee they aren't blurry.

You don't need to know exactly what a person's face looks like to make a statue of them. Whoever created it could have just gone with a generic face with a generic expression.

Agreed....

 

[charl_huntress]

With the cameras we have today, there is absolutely no way that a close up of Superman's face doesn't exist.

S P O I L E R S: If the rumours are true, it's been two years since MOS. Unless he never saved anyone in the city during that time, someone snapped a high resolution photo of him. They also have a freakin statue of the guy.

He's Superman! Previous incarnations have established that his "vibrations" prevent any clear photos, and for the most part he's not standing around taking photos. I do think discovering his identity should be a central plot point, but this notion it's impossible for SUPERMAN to easily conceal his identity with his "super powers" is absurd.

 

[Herolee10]

Yeah, the Kent identity takes some suspension of disbelief, but I'm willing to do it.

I would love to hear him say "Clark Kent from the Daily Planet." I'd probably geek out. I hope they don't skip over the fact that he's a reporter like other supes movies.

I hope he dresses like he did in that one MOS Clark scene: kinda rugged/farmer-ish, kinda dorky, but making an attempt to be professional (jacket).

It'd also be nice to see Henry's Clark placed at a desk alongside Lois, let alone the excuses that Lois could make for Clark when he needs to go change into Superman.

 

[Micromind]

Did Batman statue in TDKR look exactly lile Bale's Batman, I don't think so.

Similarly, the statue of Superman may not exactly look like Cavill, which would help Clark Kent to avoid comparisons with Superman in looks department.