Here We Go Again Part 3: New Welling As Superman Rumors?

[epc11223]

Bruce, I respectfully disagree with what you wrote above.
I live in Brazil, a country that is FAR bigger than Portugal (Brazilian population is about 18 times bigger than Portuguese), and I can tell you that Smallville is far from being a huge hit here.
I KNOW that Smallville is as successful as you say in Portugal (my uncle lives in Portugal), but as far as I know is not a worldwide hit.
I agree with you that the series bring a lot of money to WB, but I don’t think that defining factor in favor of casting Welling.
I fact, it wasn’t his absence that caused the failure of SR. The movie tanked because had a weak story, bad pacing and was confusing in general.
In the end, regardless of who is cast, what will define if the new movie is successful are the Script, direction, and in a lesser extent the action scenes.

i agree t:

 

[epc11223]

THIS.

credit to tw1977

thats a great manip!

 

[Webhead2006]

Personally I can't wait for when the role is cast. So it ends who should be or shouldn't be supes.

 

[epc11223]

Personally I can't wait for when the role is cast. So it ends who should be or shouldn't be supes.

that debate will still be there even when the role is cast. it will be "he should have been" or "i'm glad he was cast" and "im glad he wasn't cast" lol

 

[SrsBsns]

that debate will still be there even when the role is cast. it will be "he should have been" or "i'm glad he was cast" and "im glad he wasn't cast" lol

Ohh, it's only funny cause it's true

I've been constantly lurking on this site for around 6 or 7 years and, without a doubt, my favorite times were the casting wars before and after Routh was cast and the classic organic/webshooters debate before Spiderman t:

 

[epc11223]

Ohh, it's only funny cause it's true

I've been constantly lurking on this site for around 6 or 7 years and, without a doubt, my favorite times were the casting wars before and after Routh was cast and the classic organic/webshooters debate before Spiderman t:

very true. heck, we still get; welling vs routh debates. on who's the real superman. welling haters say how he hasn't portrayed superman yet and the routh haters say how welling played superman better than routh even though he's never worn the suit, blah blah blah. i'm glad that i'm a fan of superman, dont care who plays the part, i can appreciate something in just about everything. when it comes to spiderman, i think the organics actually make more sense. i mean a spider would have organic webshooters. spiderman has all the abilities of a spider, why not the shooters? but thats for a different forum! lol

 

[Webhead2006]

i know i know i just be happy once we have new cast. So then for example the folks who wanted routh back will have to deal with new guy/know officially routh never coming back and all that.

 

[Young Superman]

THIS.

credit to tw1977

Nice one, Welling really looks like Superman here.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

well i'm not misinformed because nothing really you've said here, I haven't already heard before. i think if you asked a hundred people who tom welling was, people would say "who?" most people don't even watch smallville. especially if you look at the ratings. yes it has a fan base, a loyal one at that, but it's still on the cw; which does not get as many people watching as the big networks. i think you give tom welling way too much credit. yes he has been good on smallville, and I love the show and haven't missed an episode, but to say that he didnt accept the movie role because he wanted to help his fellow actors? how would one even know that. singer always wanted to have an unknown and from what i've read brandon routh was always his number 1 choice.

gough/millar and singer had communication throughout the productions because they didnt want to step on anyone's toes out of respect and at the time didn't want the franchises to really connect or confuse people. as far as the recent interview at comic con, he says that he's always been open for the role, but that's easy to say when he knows the show is coming to an end. he has also said that if you he had become superman when the fans wanted him to be, the show would have ended long ago. that really doesn't sound like someone who would want to play the role of superman. he leaves a lot of things open ended as not to offend the fans of the show. at least thats the perception he gives, and there's nothing wrong with that, but i think it gives fans false hope. the show might also be selling merchandise, but i know i have never seen one smallville shirt worn in the places i've been. it may make 200 million, but i'd be very surprised where it's coming from. it said that it made 200 million yearly? maybe it did like 400 million one year and then 100 million a few years and it averages 200 million? i dont know, but i find that number to be a bit high. i wish it were true, but it just doesnt seem realistic. i'd also like to know where you got the 50/50 for him getting the part. it just seems a bit high. there are so many different factors so to come up with that stat, i'm just curious. you have snyder, nolan, the wb and the actor. they could all want different people for the role. even if welling were offered the part, who knows if he'd turn it down. i know you think he would definitely accept it after smallville, but that's not necessarily true. it has also been well documented that he wants to go behind the scenes and be more of a producer. he's also said how he may be too busy to do more. yes he said that if the fans were to ask for more smallville, maybe there might be something after the season, but that may be tv movies of superman? i would totally be down for that. if i had my way i'd have tom welling in a superman related tv show, routh take on the superman movies, and a new actor for justice league type movies. that for me would be ideal.

now i know this is a long post but to say that i'm misinformed? that's not true because i really dont think welling wants to play the part. i think he's terrified to put on the suit because he really doesnt want to put the suit on. if he was really for the fans, why did it take him so long to get to a comic con convention? yea he likes his privacy, but you make him out to be some sort of saint. especially with the "he didnt take on the part for the good of the cast". oh well, i'm probably coming off as a welling hater, but i just dont see him getting, or wanting the part. especially if it's a movie thats an origin.

1º You can't just go by the ratings. A lot of people don't watch the show just when it's on tv, alot do through downloading (mostly illegal) and many through dvd sets. Again, I'm talking globally. Smallville is a big hit worldwide and when you sum all the profit from tv sales, dvd sales (which is where the big money is), legal downloading, books, magazines, soundtrack cds and merchandise it's realistic that they gets hundreds of millions of dollars in profits.
It really doesn't matter that it does average numbers on the CW because it's the big picture that matters.
More than Welling's name, it's his face that's more recognizable and associated with the character so it's fair that many ppl that don't watch the show can still associate him with the character. I have many friends that don't watch the show and know who he is, my own brother never watched a Smallville episode or knows his name but when he sees a picture of him mentions that "that's Superman right ?"
I know this won't matter a bit to you and I'm only using it as an example.
Yes, he nor anybody wanted the show to end on it's second season, this can be confirmed through several cast members who said that if he had taken the job then, Smallville would have to end. And I'm talking about people like John Schneider, Annette, Erica, etc.
Tom himself said it in the past.
What I find laughable is how you and others think that an actor almost have to pledge allegiance to a comic book character to show that they're worthy of doing a movie about him or to prove to you that he would want to play it.
He could've done all that and still those same ppl would find excuses for him not be cast in the movie.
It's a never-ending battle, that many fans out here who agree with me have forfitted because they know that ppl like you will want to live with your convictions based on half-truths and lies. I for one like to fight for what I believe in, that's why I still bother in answering to some. Especially because I hate people that are misinformed.
I dont have any problem with fans not wanting Welling or wanting a new cast as long it's for the right reasons (and with those I don't argue or have any problem) and not for crap like "he doesn't want to play Superman, he doesn't want to wear tights" etc.
The 50/50 thing is my own opinion, not fact. I did say why I thought it was 50/50 in my previous post and also why I think it's premature to say he can't be cast because of the SV continuity since we know they want to end it to synch with comics and in fact it may all end with a huge mindwipe to the ppl that know who he is, maybe (here I'm just speculating to make it clear) even by Warner Bros. so that Tom can be in the movie and it not be confusing.
I never said he would definitly accept the offer. In fact I said, if he was offered the role it would have to be a good deal for him since he would be completly typecast by then. He would have to be secure and maybe get other parts/directing deals in the process.
This makes him a good businessman and one that watches for the better good of his family not a hater of Superman. In the reasoning of some fans to prove that is is worty of the character he would have to do it even for free just to satisfy them, and it still wouldn't be enough.

"but to say that i'm misinformed? that's not true because i really dont think welling wants to play the part." - again, your conviction and one based on lies and half-truths. Show me an interview where he says "I don't want to play Superman in a movie" instead of bits from interviews taken out of context where he's talking about the direction of the show and never about a movie.

This is my favourite !: "i think he's terrified to put on the suit because he really doesnt want to put the suit on. "
What kind of reasoning is that ?! That makes absolutly no sense !
But again, it just shows you completly brainwashed you are from the misinformation out there.
I do agree partially with the fact that I don't think he wants to wear the SUPERMAN RETURNS SUIT (and who can blame him, that thing is HORRIBLE) based on his look at comic con when they say that's the suit that's appearing on the premiere. But that is something that has to do with the poor design of that suit and not with the classic suit itself.
Hopefully they will change it by the end of the season.
He didn't go to comic cons mostly because of his comments being taken out of context and after the whole Teen Choice Awards thing and with SR at the time still in the public eye, he knew all the questions would be "Were you ever signed to do SR?" or his opinions in the movie.
He did the Con last year and thought it was alot of fun, SR is no longer in the public eye nor relevant, so he did it. This year they finally asked him about the movie (which they didn't last year) and he answered and was quick to explain that things aren't always as simple as some would like to think and imediatly mentioned that he knows that many like to jump on him because of it or Warner Bros.
So he is very aware of the misinformation that's out there.
I don't make him out to be any saint. Being respectful and humble doesn't make him a saint. Everybody has flaws. But from all accounts (from his friends and collegues) he's a very simple and humble man.
Maybe you would prefer to dump on the whole tv show crew/actors who depend on it's lead star to carry in favour of a big payday for the movie, but there's still some out there that have different values. Doesn't make us saints.
It's not so different as you and me been made the following proposal: would you prefer to have a job doing something you love on a great environment with friends all over the crew (Michael and Kristen were like brothers to Tom, Schneider like a mentor, and all were friends with the crew) or to work for more money but in a strange enviromnment, with a strange director, with a new direction and with a crew full of strangers ?
No doubt he could still make friends in the new production but would he be willing to take the risk ? I know for one I would prefer to work with friends, especially if they depended on me. At least until the show was profitable for syndication which would only be on season 5 (when SR was coming out).
Yes, you are coming off as a Welling hater, one that will only rest when the rest of the fans agree with you so you can be in peace. More importantly, you come off as a Welling hater trying to make himself out to be a somewhat supporter of his so as to be completly bashed.
We don't know if it's an origin story. I seriously doubt it is, SR showed a bit of his origin, SV showed 10 years of origin story and let's face it, everybody knows the origin already.
The most senseful thing is to show him as an established Superman already.
We'll have to wait and see. Maybe he's cast, maybe he's not. Maybe he'll do Superman on tv films maybe he won't.
I'm fine with you not wanting him in the movie. Just don't justify it by saying he doesn't want it or is terrified (which by the way was a line fed to him by the interviewer) of wearing the suit when it's clear when you see that interview that he's talking about not disappointing the high expectations fans have of him and the legacy of the character. He has been adamant that SV needs to have an ending to satisfy the fans that have supported it for 10 years and that it needs to end the right way.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Bruce, I respectfully disagree with what you wrote above.
I live in Brazil, a country that is FAR bigger than Portugal (Brazilian population is about 18 times bigger than Portuguese), and I can tell you that Smallville is far from being a huge hit here.
I KNOW that Smallville is as successful as you say in Portugal (my uncle lives in Portugal), but as far as I know is not a worldwide hit.
I agree with you that the series bring a lot of money to WB, but I don’t think that defining factor in favor of casting Welling.
I fact, it wasn’t his absence that caused the failure of SR. The movie tanked because had a weak story, bad pacing and was confusing in general.
In the end, regardless of who is cast, what will define if the new movie is successful are the Script, direction, and in a lesser extent the action scenes.

My bad on the Brasil thing, I was told it was huge a while ago by a Brasilian friend of mine. But this doesn't change the fact that it has a huge following worldwide. And like I said in the other post, a success isn't always measured by ratings, you have to take into account the dvds and especially downloading (mostly illegal).
Be careful when you say it's "fact" that it wasn't his absence that cause the faillure of the movie. You can't REALLY say it was or wasn't for sure.
I never said Tom not being it, was the sole cause of the faillure. I agree with everything you said about SR but let's face it, a Superman movie depends alot on who is Superman.
It's the difference between someone that makes you believe and someone that is just...a man in the suit.
Which is why Christopher Reeve made us (most of us anyway) believe.
Why so many of us believe in Tom. And why many others like me see George Reeves, Dean Cain and Brandon Routh as just men in suits.
Warner thought that to make a successful Superman movie they just needed to steal a director from a successful Marvel franchise and cast a Reeve look-a-like and tell him to mimick Reeve and the public would buy it.
Not so, because what made Chris so special wasn't just the way he looked or his face but the way he portrayed it.
He was really commanding as Superman but was really human in his portrayal.
I can tell you right now, you make the most kick ass movie ever. Wouldn't mean anything if the people don't believe or relate to it's Superman.
They don't even have to be fans who want Tom. There are many who aren't fans of Tom who didn't relate to Brandon.
We can make an experience of they putting Jon Hamm in the suit and we will all see the result. Hopefully it won't happen as I don't want that to happen even to prove you wrong on that theory. I would rather have Brandon back...lol
If Tom had been cast in SR, yes the movie would probably still sucked, the suit would still be horrendous (even though it would look better on him) and the direction atrocious but at least many of us would believe in that Superman. Many of us would've seen the movie countless times to support it and especially buy it on dvd/blu ray (an area where the movie flopped even harder than on box office) and make a really good profit for Warner Bros.
Anyway thanks for the info on Brasil. Hope all is well there, I have a fondness for your country and made really good friends there. :0)

 

[RakuMon]

I don't get how someone can argue that being on Smallville should disqualify Welling, but then say Routh should get a second chance even though he was in Superman Returns (which they're rebooting). If Smallville baggage disqualifies Welling, Returns baggage disqualifies Routh.

 

[Prison Mike]

Not that it matters, but Entertainment Weekly has posted a new poll of who should play Superman. It's among Jon Hamm, Brandon Routh, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Matthew Bomer, Henry Cavill, and Tom Welling. Needless to say, Welling is winning!

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/10/08/vote-for-the-new-superman/

 

[C. Lee]

It's not the goal of keeping the peace that is objectionable, it's the way it's being done.

I get that I don't pay the bills around here and only the people who do get to make the rules, but unless or until I'm banned, I can't not speak up about this.

There are rules about not talking smack about the actors in their individual threads right? So why would a TW thread in the Superman forum be any more of an issue than threads devoted to Routh or Cavill?

I'm not saying you can't complain. I see complaints about something....I try to answer it. More times than not, people don't like the answer...but it at least is answered.

Why would a TW thread cause more trouble in the Superman forums than another actors....simple....the hate for him by the haters is giant. Several of us mods discussed this situation before implimenting the rule. It came down to that Welling has this forum devoted to him. If he gets picked to play the role....you can talk about it in the Superman forum. Until then, this stops 99% of the fights from starting.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Not that it matters, but Entertainment Weekly has posted a new poll of who should play Superman. It's among Jon Hamm, Brandon Routh, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Matthew Bomer, Henry Cavill, and Tom Welling. Needless to say, Welling is winning!

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/10/08/vote-for-the-new-superman/

Awesome !

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

I don't get how someone can argue that being on Smallville should disqualify Welling, but then say Routh should get a second chance even though he was in Superman Returns (which they're rebooting). If Smallville baggage disqualifies Welling, Returns baggage disqualifies Routh.

Exactly.

 

[Webhead2006]

Still would be cool for tom. But I still think he wont be in the film. Hopefully once casting starts up we get a look at how it will go.

 

[epc11223]

1º You can't just go by the ratings. A lot of people don't watch the show just when it's on tv, alot do through downloading (mostly illegal) and many through dvd sets. Again, I'm talking globally. Smallville is a big hit worldwide and when you sum all the profit from tv sales, dvd sales (which is where the big money is), legal downloading, books, magazines, soundtrack cds and merchandise it's realistic that they gets hundreds of millions of dollars in profits.
It really doesn't matter that it does average numbers on the CW because it's the big picture that matters.
More than Welling's name, it's his face that's more recognizable and associated with the character so it's fair that many ppl that don't watch the show can still associate him with the character. I have many friends that don't watch the show and know who he is, my own brother never watched a Smallville episode or knows his name but when he sees a picture of him mentions that "that's Superman right ?"
I know this won't matter a bit to you and I'm only using it as an example.
Yes, he nor anybody wanted the show to end on it's second season, this can be confirmed through several cast members who said that if he had taken the job then, Smallville would have to end. And I'm talking about people like John Schneider, Annette, Erica, etc.
Tom himself said it in the past.
What I find laughable is how you and others think that an actor almost have to pledge allegiance to a comic book character to show that they're worthy of doing a movie about him or to prove to you that he would want to play it.
He could've done all that and still those same ppl would find excuses for him not be cast in the movie.
It's a never-ending battle, that many fans out here who agree with me have forfitted because they know that ppl like you will want to live with your convictions based on half-truths and lies. I for one like to fight for what I believe in, that's why I still bother in answering to some. Especially because I hate people that are misinformed.
I dont have any problem with fans not wanting Welling or wanting a new cast as long it's for the right reasons (and with those I don't argue or have any problem) and not for crap like "he doesn't want to play Superman, he doesn't want to wear tights" etc.
The 50/50 thing is my own opinion, not fact. I did say why I thought it was 50/50 in my previous post and also why I think it's premature to say he can't be cast because of the SV continuity since we know they want to end it to synch with comics and in fact it may all end with a huge mindwipe to the ppl that know who he is, maybe (here I'm just speculating to make it clear) even by Warner Bros. so that Tom can be in the movie and it not be confusing.
I never said he would definitly accept the offer. In fact I said, if he was offered the role it would have to be a good deal for him since he would be completly typecast by then. He would have to be secure and maybe get other parts/directing deals in the process.
This makes him a good businessman and one that watches for the better good of his family not a hater of Superman. In the reasoning of some fans to prove that is is worty of the character he would have to do it even for free just to satisfy them, and it still wouldn't be enough.

"but to say that i'm misinformed? that's not true because i really dont think welling wants to play the part." - again, your conviction and one based on lies and half-truths. Show me an interview where he says "I don't want to play Superman in a movie" instead of bits from interviews taken out of context where he's talking about the direction of the show and never about a movie.

This is my favourite !: "i think he's terrified to put on the suit because he really doesnt want to put the suit on. "
What kind of reasoning is that ?! That makes absolutly no sense !
But again, it just shows you completly brainwashed you are from the misinformation out there.
I do agree partially with the fact that I don't think he wants to wear the SUPERMAN RETURNS SUIT (and who can blame him, that thing is HORRIBLE) based on his look at comic con when they say that's the suit that's appearing on the premiere. But that is something that has to do with the poor design of that suit and not with the classic suit itself.
Hopefully they will change it by the end of the season.
He didn't go to comic cons mostly because of his comments being taken out of context and after the whole Teen Choice Awards thing and with SR at the time still in the public eye, he knew all the questions would be "Were you ever signed to do SR?" or his opinions in the movie.
He did the Con last year and thought it was alot of fun, SR is no longer in the public eye nor relevant, so he did it. This year they finally asked him about the movie (which they didn't last year) and he answered and was quick to explain that things aren't always as simple as some would like to think and imediatly mentioned that he knows that many like to jump on him because of it or Warner Bros.
So he is very aware of the misinformation that's out there.
I don't make him out to be any saint. Being respectful and humble doesn't make him a saint. Everybody has flaws. But from all accounts (from his friends and collegues) he's a very simple and humble man.
Maybe you would prefer to dump on the whole tv show crew/actors who depend on it's lead star to carry in favour of a big payday for the movie, but there's still some out there that have different values. Doesn't make us saints.
It's not so different as you and me been made the following proposal: would you prefer to have a job doing something you love on a great environment with friends all over the crew (Michael and Kristen were like brothers to Tom, Schneider like a mentor, and all were friends with the crew) or to work for more money but in a strange enviromnment, with a strange director, with a new direction and with a crew full of strangers ?
No doubt he could still make friends in the new production but would he be willing to take the risk ? I know for one I would prefer to work with friends, especially if they depended on me. At least until the show was profitable for syndication which would only be on season 5 (when SR was coming out).
Yes, you are coming off as a Welling hater, one that will only rest when the rest of the fans agree with you so you can be in peace. More importantly, you come off as a Welling hater trying to make himself out to be a somewhat supporter of his so as to be completly bashed.
We don't know if it's an origin story. I seriously doubt it is, SR showed a bit of his origin, SV showed 10 years of origin story and let's face it, everybody knows the origin already.
The most senseful thing is to show him as an established Superman already.
We'll have to wait and see. Maybe he's cast, maybe he's not. Maybe he'll do Superman on tv films maybe he won't.
I'm fine with you not wanting him in the movie. Just don't justify it by saying he doesn't want it or is terrified (which by the way was a line fed to him by the interviewer) of wearing the suit when it's clear when you see that interview that he's talking about not disappointing the high expectations fans have of him and the legacy of the character. He has been adamant that SV needs to have an ending to satisfy the fans that have supported it for 10 years and that it needs to end the right way.

you're so wrong it's not even funny becasue i am no welling hater. there are no half truths and i never once said that you had to be in love with a character to portray the person. if you look at the superman movie thread i even defended that welling had a chance to portray superman. i think it's a lot smaller percentage than you think. especially if it's an origin story. the whole reason why tom welling even took the part was because it wasn't going to be about superman. that should say something about how much he really doesnt want to play the part. he may have grown some affection towards the character, but that still doesnt necessarily mean he WANTS to get the role. i still don't agree that smallville is as huge as you're lead to believe. i dont know how it ranks to downloads on itunes or any other site. i know in ny, if you ask a hundred people who tom welling is, or show a picture of him, not many would know. you say it's about half truths but where does he really say "i'd love to play the part of superman". he conveniently said "i've never been against playing superman" but he could have just said that to save face. if he really wanted to play superman, it would have happened a lot sooner than right now. gough and millar have been gone a couple of years now. they were supposedly the large part of why there were "no flights, no tights". once they left, if he told the producers of the show that he absolutely wants to portray superman the last couple of years, lets get this done". there's a lot that probably needed to be done, with wb, but if he really wanted to do it, especially being an executive producer on the show last year, something could have been done to make it a more superman centric show. this has been pretty much a superman show since season 8, and still no suit. he's bearly even in smallville nowadays.

he's never going to flat out say "i dont want to play the part". that would make a lot of people mad and he knows that it would offend people. you talk about half truths? where does he say that he wouldnt want to put on the sr suit? he doesnt specifically say the sr suit. the question was "how do you feel about putting the suit on" and he said "terrified" i even said in the superman movie forums how if the new movie was about an established superman, than the wb/nolan/snyder could in fact want welling to portray their superman, especially since they have a following, and i was shot down immediately there. i only believed that if they were going for an established superman, but unfortunately i think they're going for a beginning/origin story which would definitely decrease the odds even more of him portraying superman. there are too many unknowns on both sides of the coin. you may want to think that he wants to portray superman, but it seems that that's only because he hasn't outright said it. just because he hasn't outright said it, doesnt mean his opinion changed. but i think the fact that if it was a superman story from the beginning, he wouldnt have taken the role. an affinity for clark kent who he's portrayed for ten years is a lot different than wanting to put on the tights of superman. maybe for one brief moment (which i hope is longer) as a payoff for the end of the series, but not for the entirety of a movie. again, how can i be a welling hater if i even said how i'd like him to portray superman? thinking he doesn't want to play the part, does not mean that i wouldnt want him to play the part or is qualified to play the part. they are two completely different things. maybe smallville is big where you are, but i have not seen one person wear a smallville shirt or any other merchandise by someone else. a show lasting ten years has a following, no doubt, but you really do have to look at what network it's on. knight rider 2008 series also had a fan base and ratings (i think they were similar to smallville) but it got canned. it really does depend on what network it's on. there are so many factors for why a show can be considered a success or a failure. a lot of smallville's appeal is that it deals with superman. superman is one of the most recongizable characters in pop culture. has a huge fan base set in, but not necessarily for tom welling. if there was a batman centric version of smallville it would probably do extremely well too. i'm not talking about birds of prey, because that was not about batman, but if there was a show called "gotham city" i wouldn't be surprised if that series did extremely well, regardless of the actor portraying. he would have to be really bad for that show not to work out. but i've been digressing (sorry, i'm kind of tired). but the fact is, there are way too many factors and you may think that i have half truths and misinformed, but you are at fault of the same things because never has tom welling said "i would absolutely love to play the part of superman". you say that you don't need to love the character to portray the character, but than you say how welling would want to play the part, he just hasn't. i never once said that welling wasn't worthy of taking on the character, i simply said that he doesnt want to, which really can't be proven or disapproved. i'm just going by what i've seen in interviews and the fact that in ten years, he's never said "i want to play the part". you may want to think that he wants to play the part, but there's really nothing that proves that sentiment. he is never going to say in public "i dont want to portray superman".

 

[epc11223]

that poll kind of proves my point. he may be in the lead with having 30%, but that means that theres 70% of the people voting who don't want him as superman. that would probably be the general audience to comic book fans ratio that the creators of the movie go by. yes smallville has a following, but it doesn't outweigh the general audience who don't really care who portrays superman, as long as there's fighting/action/good story.

 

[epc11223]

i don't know who's voting, but i'm using it as an example of how the majority of people don't care who plays the part. superman is bigger than any one actor.

 

[Webhead2006]

all i want to really know is it going to be a fresh starting out supes, a supes might been around for a little bit but we see how he went public, or a more mature older supes. Personally i still hope for a fresh supes. But with how casting with with gl i figure the character will probably be mid/late 20s and we will see folks between 24-35 up for the role.

 

[epc11223]

all i want to really know is it going to be a fresh starting out supes, a supes might been around for a little bit but we see how he went public, or a more mature older supes. Personally i still hope for a fresh supes. But with how casting with with gl i figure the character will probably be mid/late 20s and we will see folks between 24-35 up for the role.

yea, there's definitely way too many unanswered questions right now. original reports seemed to convey that there would a more mature superman that's been around awhile, but with news coming out that it's going to be an origin; it's anyone's guess who'd the casting people want.

 

[Webhead2006]

totally epc, and i still say it would be better to start with a fresh young superman. But i agree we dont need to have the origin played into the story to much. Give us tidbits and show some things and all that. We dont need 30+ mins of origin when we can get it done in under 15 i say.

 

[triplet]

Not that it matters, but Entertainment Weekly has posted a new poll of who should play Superman. It's among Jon Hamm, Brandon Routh, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Matthew Bomer, Henry Cavill, and Tom Welling. Needless to say, Welling is winning!

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/10/08/vote-for-the-new-superman/

Awesome. I'm glad Tom's doing well.

I can sorta see Jon Hamm, Matthew Bomer and Henry Cavill (although all three I think are too short), and I understand why Routh is on the list, but Joseph Gordon Levitt?

Seriously?

Unless he's really bulked up since 500 Days of Summer, he's not the most buff guy in the world and he's not very tall.

Color me confused.

 

[Serene]

I'm not saying you can't complain. I see complaints about something....I try to answer it. More times than not, people don't like the answer...but it at least is answered.

Why would a TW thread cause more trouble in the Superman forums than another actors....simple....the hate for him by the haters is giant. Several of us mods discussed this situation before implimenting the rule. It came down to that Welling has this forum devoted to him. If he gets picked to play the role....you can talk about it in the Superman forum. Until then, this stops 99% of the fights from starting.

I've always respected you as a fair-minded Mod, C. Lee.

But this is Wrong, for all the reasons I've already stated.

Like I said, I do realize that it's not my call, but standing by and quietly accepting something like this just isn't my way. I've at least said my piece, even if it falls on deaf ears.

 

[C. Lee]

Like I said.....I give answers, but people don't always like them.