How do you think the X-Men will be introduced into the MCU?

[SPO2 Dalisay]

When Disney takes over, does this mean we will lose a lot of the Avengers characters to make room for the X-Men and/or F4.

The only logical way I see how the X-Men will be introduce into the MCU is to not do it at all. Every scenario I can think of and what I read on this tread doesn’t make much sense.

Lose the Avengers characters who survive Endgame? I doubt it. Figure five Avengers have had a solo movie with most of them getting or heading towards a trilogy. The rest are sidekicks and most of those are rumored to be in line for something on the Disney streaming service.

So maybe not an Avengers 5, or a Falcon movie but not a disappeared character either.

 

[Iceman]

I have been saying this since the beginning

The general public won't care about why the X-Men were not around for event X. Only hardcore fanboys will ask these type of questions. I could make this argument for almost every MCU film in the history of ever and every comic book story line for that matter, as well. People are just over thinking things.

Yeah, they really don't care about this kind of stuff - as long as the films are entertaining in their own right.

 

[Iceman]

When Disney takes over, does this mean we will lose a lot of the Avengers characters to make room for the X-Men and/or F4.

The only logical way I see how the X-Men will be introduce into the MCU is to not do it at all. Every scenario I can think of and what I read on this tread doesn’t make much sense.

It's a cinematic universe - as in a big place. Not a 1 in 1 out club. The introduction of Dr Strange, Black Panther, Guardians, Ant Man and their supporting and associated characters didn't require legions of MCU blood sacrifices of existing characters to fit them in lol.

 

[Raiders]

It's a cinematic universe - as in a big place. Not a 1 in 1 out club. The introduction of Dr Strange, Black Panther, Guardians, Ant Man and their supporting and associated characters didn't require legions of MCU blood sacrifices of existing characters to fit them in lol.

But this is different, those added characters were plan for years. Now the X-Men is being dump on with more popular characters than the ones you named.

 

[TheVileOne]

Here why:
Disney is a company not known for taking chances, whatever works, they will stick to it.
MCU is a well-oiled machine that is running great.
I can’t see Disney taking that chance by throwing a X wrench in this well-oiled machine.
It’s not going to increase box office, the X-Men existence will be hard to explain that would make any sense.
I don’t think Disney will mess with success.
They will make more money by keeping them separate. Fans seem to forget the X-Men is a very successful franchise too.
Why would Disney want to have one successful Marvel franchise when they now can have two successful Marvel franchises.

Guardians of the Galaxy.

 

[Raiders]

I don’t think GOTG was that big of a risk. Anything that’s tied to the MCU is guaranteed to make money.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

I don’t think GOTG was that big of a risk. Anything that’s tied to the MCU is guaranteed to make money.

Being the least known group to headline a movie, one that wasn't chosen to headline a TV movie in the last century it was the success of Guardians Of The Galaxy which confirmed that being linked to the MCU was a license to print money. It has only been the Inhumans, another lesser known group IMAX which has been the exception to the rule

 

[Iceman]

Here why:
Disney is a company not known for taking chances, whatever works, they will stick to it.
MCU is a well-oiled machine that is running great.
I can’t see Disney taking that chance by throwing a X wrench in this well-oiled machine.
It’s not going to increase box office, the X-Men existence will be hard to explain that would make any sense.
I don’t think Disney will mess with success.
They will make more money by keeping them separate. Fans seem to forget the X-Men is a very successful franchise too.
Why would Disney want to have one successful Marvel franchise when they now can have two successful Marvel franchises.

Bob Iger said exactly that - that it doesn’t make sense to have 2 Marvels.

Disney CEO Bob Iger On Fox's X-Men: "There Shouldn't Be Two Marvels"

 

[metaphysician]

Being the least known group to headline a movie, one that wasn't chosen to headline a TV movie in the last century it was the success of Guardians Of The Galaxy which confirmed that being linked to the MCU was a license to print money. It has only been the Inhumans, another lesser known group IMAX which has been the exception to the rule

Also, Inhumans wasn't *really* a movie, it was filmed as a TV show. Just a. . . weird, absurd budget yet cheap, IMAX pilot TV show.

( I guarantee you, nothing will ever reference Inhumans again, and when they eventually decide to do something with the characters, the original series will be totally ignored. )

 

[Raiders]

Gambit starts filming March in New Orleans?
Link:
Forevermore | Louisiana Entertainment

WTF is going on.

 

[BoredGuy]

That was back from when Verbinski was still onboard
that movie is good as dead

I'll be excited to see MCU's Gambit though... any good casting ideas? and not Ian Somerhalder or whatever his name is??

 

[Raiders]

I found out it was last year

 

[Marvel united]

That was back from when Verbinski was still onboard
that movie is good as dead

I'll be excited to see MCU's Gambit though... any good casting ideas? and not Ian Somerhalder or whatever his name is??

Probably Luke Benward


Or Charlie Rowe

 

[SumT]

That was back from when Verbinski was still onboard
that movie is good as dead

I'll be excited to see MCU's Gambit though... any good casting ideas? and not Ian Somerhalder or whatever his name is??

Id love a french newcomer. Someone that has the look hands down and will breakout with this role.

someone tall, skinny, sexy as hell and with a mistery vibe surrounding his features.

 

[Moridin]

I don’t think GOTG was that big of a risk. Anything that’s tied to the MCU is guaranteed to make money.

Uh, but weren't you arguing that throwing X-Men into the MCU is too big a risk.....;

Here why:
Disney is a company not known for taking chances, whatever works, they will stick to it.
MCU is a well-oiled machine that is running great.
I can’t see Disney taking that chance by throwing a X wrench in this well-oiled machine.
It’s not going to increase box office, the X-Men existence will be hard to explain that would make any sense.
I don’t think Disney will mess with success.
They will make more money by keeping them separate. Fans seem to forget the X-Men is a very successful franchise too.
Why would Disney want to have one successful Marvel franchise when they now can have two successful Marvel franchises.

 

[Raiders]

The X-Men are a different beast with all the social issues.

 

[Herofan]

What's the appeal in seeing the X-men as a team of older, confident heroes? We've already seen that with the original X-men films and in the MCU itself the Avengers are all quite mature. Seeing a superhero team grow in real time from teenagers with brand new superpowers to veteran adults would be quite unique.

-The Fox films, like 'em or not, focused on only a few characters and gave little material to the rest.
-While the MCU has established the precedents that adult but cool heroes-badasses while young teens-barely competent, a lot more focus on humor coming from them not being as competent as older established heroes.
-It's fairly doubtful that even young, little-known actors would want to stick playing the roles for long so we would not see much growth, let alone to veteran adults.

 

[Moridin]

I have been saying this since the beginning

The general public won't care about why the X-Men were not around for event X. Only hardcore fanboys will ask these type of questions. I could make this argument for almost every MCU film in the history of ever and every comic book story line for that matter, as well. People are just over thinking things.

I disagree with the sentiment rather vehemently. "No body will care about that stuff" is how the Fox-Verse got into such a clusterf*** of continuity in the first place.

I think Marvel have demonstrated more of a caring about that stuff to date, so why would that stop now.

Bad storytelling is what will lead to the decline of the MCU. Having it be "oh mutants were always around, we just didn't make a movie about it" is bad storytelling.

And saying "the general audience won't care, so why bother?" is a fundamentally bad argument.

 

[Marvel united]

The X-Men are a different beast with all the social issues.

You mean Marvel being afraid to tackle the social issues associated with the franchise?

 

[Raiders]

You mean Marvel being afraid to tackle the social issues associated with the franchise?

I’m not saying they are afraid, but it something that they just don’t do.
The social issues are interwoven with the X-Men, I’m not sure Marvel wants to go down that road with the MCU.

 

[Herofan]

^There is something to that in its previous social issues commentary Marvel Studios has tended to conclude that Both sides are right.

When Disney takes over, does this mean we will lose a lot of the Avengers characters to make room for the X-Men and/or F4.

Well the main Avengers actors (Evans, RDJ, if not also Hemsworth) are probably tired of playing them and view the next film as their end (if any more appearances probably smaller supporting/mentoring roles, at least take a long break) so the lineups and focus will have to change.

 

[Moridin]

But this is different, those added characters were plan for years. Now the X-Men is being dump on with more popular characters than the ones you named.

They added Spider-Man on months notice. They've had over a year already to consider how to add X-Men & F4.

-The Fox films, like 'em or not, focused on only a few characters and gave little material to the rest.
-While the MCU has established the precedents that adult but cool heroes-badasses while young teens-barely competent, a lot more focus on humor coming from them not being as competent as older established heroes.
-It's fairly doubtful that even young, little-known actors would want to stick playing the roles for long so we would not see much growth, let alone to veteran adults.

I think you got that the wrong way around. It's older established actors who aren't hurting for roles or money that balk at multi-picture deals.

For young, little known actors getting a franchise deal is massive. Especially a Marvel franchise. It basically guarantees you a big, regular paycheck for the next 5-10 years, gets you a big platform to show your skills which in turn puts in in a better position to vie for small indie passion projects.

There's scant few young actors that would turn down a franchise, particularly a Marvel franchise.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I disagree with the sentiment rather vehemently. "No body will care about that stuff" is how the Fox-Verse got into such a clusterf*** of continuity in the first place.

I think Marvel have demonstrated more of a caring about that stuff to date, so why would that stop now.

Bad storytelling is what will lead to the decline of the MCU. Having it be "oh mutants were always around, we just didn't make a movie about it" is bad storytelling.

And saying "the general audience won't care, so why bother?" is a fundamentally bad argument.

So Captain Marvell is bad writing? Or Black Panther in Civil War? Cause they were always there, we just didn't see them until it became relevant.

 

[Moridin]

So Captain Marvell is bad writing? Or Black Panther in Civil War? Cause they were always there, we just didn't see them until it became relevant.

As others have already pointed out, individuals like Dr Strange, Cpt Marvel, or a small nation deep in Africa hiding itself from the world with magi-tech aren't comparable cases to mutants popping up in the general population all around the world.

To be clear, I'm for mutants having existed for a long time in the MCU, just on a very small scale, a scattered handful like Logan, Prof X, Apocalypse etc.
Not a widespread, known phenomenon where organisations like the X-Men have existed off-camera the whole time and is just explained away with "oh they were there all along, we just haven't made a movie about them".

I think the mutant population explosion & foundation of the X-Men should be a post-Infinity War/Endgame thing.

 

[TheVileOne]

I’m not saying they are afraid, but it something that they just don’t do.
The social issues are interwoven with the X-Men, I’m not sure Marvel wants to go down that road with the MCU.

Seems they are pretty obviously going there with Captain Marvel and Black Panther.