How Marijuana is viewed upon by society now?

[Rodrigo90]

Yeah, he was a well known thief

 

[Ghostvirus]

It's not easy being cheesy.

 

[TheBat812]

Almost everyone I know smokes up at least once a week. Personally, it's not for me anymore and I was smoking up almost every day for over a year. When I stopped I did notice I became a lot more productive.

I'm in the same place right now. I've been smoking for awhile, and while at first it seemed to be a gift from the gods that allowed me more personal freedom, creative stimulation and confidence, it (like excess of anything) ultimately turned on itself and made me utterly unproductive.

Still think it should be legal, just like any substance, used in moderation it can certainly improve ones' quality of life, but too much can and probably will be detrimental.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Maybe the cheetos would help, Ghostvirus? lol

 

[Lily Adler]

If someone can get passed can they also get future.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

I think there is a growing amount of people fed up with the failure that is the "War on Drugs".

I highly suggest seeing the movie "breaking the taboo" its the new one, narrated by Morgan Freeman.

I'm former military police, and I can tell you I dissagree entirely with the war on drugs.

I'm not an advocate of addiction either, I think its horrible, but is a disease that the criminal justice system was never meant to deal with.

Also see the result of alcohol prohibition.

What we have today is the same thing, but simply 10x worse.

The USA (where I'm at) has the worlds highest amount of inmates, per capita, in a country that prides itself on personal freedoms.

http://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/

I'm not just talking about weed, I'm talking all of it.

Whenever an opening is made for a black market, one exists, then so do all the other criminal elements that come with it, that's the gangs, cartels, the violence over the trade.

Nothing short of complete draconic totalitarian control would win it. I don't feel like living in a police state.

I agree. I like weed. Since buying a home my consumption has been dropping off pretty steadily. More stuff to do, and thus less time to do it.

However, I don't like all drugs, yet I'm sick a tired of the War on Drugs.

I've tried cocaine, and honestly I think it's horrible (and just didn't care for it) for you, and I've seen what it does to people's brains after prolonged use. It definitely fries it, and can make you more than a little bit of a delusional f***tard if done long enough, if done even longer it'll be permanent. But that's also from the War on Drugs. People can't try a little, so they horde a lot.

Honestly, if sold on the open market like booze, I think certain drugs would struggle as products, since you'd see the effects in real life when people did too much or did it for too long.

Cocaine, in my opinion, would wear out as a novelty if it were on the open market, specifically because you can die from overdose.

Same thing with aspirin though.

So that's the thing to me. It's just hypocritical, and not even handed at all either.

It's a mess.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

It's always been there. "Society" has always been a horrible thing with brief periods of happiness and prosperity for some and a living hell for most. This idea of a society that used to be anything but s**t is a pipe dream.

Society in my opinion is just a game.

It's never really been "better" or "worse", outside of technological advances.

It's just that in society there are rules, and some people naturally fall in the "out" crowd.

When the "out" crowd gets too big, or have a lot of money concentrated, society seeks to include them.

I think certain things have genetic leases in this regard. You can't have a society that includes too many killers internally because then you have too many dead people, and your society collapses.

So really drugs are not bad in the sense that, as long as they don't make people eat faces, you can allow them without disrupting things too much. But then you worry about unintended consequences, like does it make your workforce too lazy.

So I think when people think Society then often think fairness, but really that's not the aim of Governance or Society. It's to decide the allocation of resources, and whenever you do that someone loses out.

I actually think Society is largely window dressing and people who claim "oh, this guy wouldn't make it in nature because he's just a scientist/rich person" miss the point. Humans are adaptive animals, so humans that succeed may have been bound to succeed in nature as well, they just were forced to adapt to a more "modern" circumstance instead. So all those politicians may indeed be our best "stock", and we'd recognize that regardless of the circumstance.

 

[SuperMike335!!]

I said they shouldn't be in the same comparison though.

And anyway...I've seen plenty drug dealers sell to small children.

That's one of the main issues with the Illegality of Drugs.

The result is criminals make all the decisions.

If things were legal they could at least be regulated, no different than alcohol, or prescription meds.

 

[grout]

"How Marijuana is viewed upon by society now?"

Its really not viewed as much as smoked..lol

 

[Rodrigo90]

My main concern is the safety for people who don't want to use them.

If marijuana was legalized, they could at least attempt to by then, come up with something where a person can intake it, without it being a harm to others around them. Then done safer in quantities to the user theirself.

I wouldn't mind that.

 

[SuperMike335!!]

My main concern is the safety for people who don't want to use them.

If marijuana was legalized, they could at least attempt to by then, come up with something where a person can intake it, without it being a harm to others around them. Then done safer in quantities to the user theirself.

I wouldn't mind that.

Well, you mean like, making brownies out of it?

That's a FANTASTIC way to intake weed. t:

 

[Rodrigo90]

As long I don't pick up the wrongs ones in the supermarket

But honestly, if it was better controlled under authority, made safer for everyone...heck, might be something I end up using! I get pretty tired of explaining to people I'm crazy without the use of substance, they look at me funny

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

My main concern is the safety for people who don't want to use them.

If marijuana was legalized, they could at least attempt to by then, come up with something where a person can intake it, without it being a harm to others around them. Then done safer in quantities to the user theirself.

I wouldn't mind that.

As someone who enjoys it, I don't think you should be able to just smoke right out there in front of tons of people. Like regular smoking.

I like to smoke in my home, but I prefer to not do it anywhere else.

Also, like drinking, you shouldn't be allowed to drive, and there should be penalties for being high in public, certainly if you do something else illegal in the process.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Actually, the smoke from weed is worse for you than the smoke from cigarettes - this, however, is only in the moment. So those with some sort of lung disease will be more likely to suffer from marijuana smoke than tobacco smoke, but "healthy people" are more like to get lung disease from smoking tobacco than from weed.

Pretty interesting.

Where did you learn this? I've never heard that, but the opposite. Provide some links, please.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

That makes sense, but there's only one cheetah on the bag. Shouldn't they be called just Cheeto?

Because the cheetah's name is Chester. The chips are called cheetos.

 

[Beanjuice]

It's not a big deal anymore. I smoke, the majority of people I know smoke, or have smoked. I remember back in the day when people generally wouldn't even talk about it unless you were with people who you knew smoked. Nowadays its a little more out in the open, and less frowned upon, and out of all the drugs, it's not even that harmful in the long run. I'm not homeless, sick or stupid, or a criminal. I graduated school, got my degree, I'm doing alright in life and I still smoke time to time. The war on drugs is fail, and wasting money. More places are catching on, and pot is slowly growing more acceptable. Will it be better if it's legal everywhere? Maybe. Is it going to happen? Doubt it. Am I going to keep smoking? As much as I eat pop tarts, and those two go hand in hand.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Just out of curiosity, I was wondering how the hype feels how society views Marijuana now.

It feels like it's essentially legal because of how tame the cops and laws are here for it.

How does your area view the green?

Just because it isn't the worst of the lot doesn't mean it's benign. The whole morally relativistic argument of "it's safer than..." is irrelevant. The fact is it's still part of the drug culture, so it's dangerous.

Here's the crux of the issue: any time you compromise your higher neurological functioning, you take a huge risk. Even worse, you put those around you at risk. Society doesn't like to hear the brutal truth that getting high or drunk is STUPID.

I've spent a lot of years in the mental health field. I've heard a lot of tales of regret that begin with "The first time I took a drink or tried a joint..."

Never--not once--have I heard someone express regret over a life of sobriety.

 

[Number 6]

Just because it isn't the worst of the lot doesn't mean it's benign. The whole morally relativistic argument of "it's safer than..." is irrelevant. The fact is it's still part of the drug culture, so it's dangerous.

Here's the crux of the issue: any time you compromise your higher neurological functioning, you take a huge risk. Even worse, you put those around you at risk. Society doesn't like to hear the brutal truth that getting high or drunk is STUPID.

I've spent a lot of years in the mental health field. I've heard a lot of tales of regret that begin with "The first time I took a drink or tried a joint..."

Never--not once--have I heard someone express regret over a life of sobriety.

The brutal truth lol. Come on, man, don't try and be the man in the high castle. And you've never heard someone express regret about not trying things like that? Strange. I have. Not quite in your terms, but I knew a lot of people who lived very straight edged lives, and started to regret not trying things. And when they finally did, it was kind of half and half.

The rest is fine, your opinion and all that, though I've always found this idea of pot as a gateway drug a bit of a wash, but that's just me.

 

[The Riddler]

i haven't seen a good argument for why alcohol is legal but marijuana isn't.

the stigma surrounding weed is illogical, and is dissipating fast. marijuana being legal nationwide seems like an inevitability at this point.

 

[Number 6]

There really isn't a good reason at all for alcohol to be legal over weed. I really do believe anyone who is anti-pot (or anti-drug, in general, frankly) and then goes and drinks deer is pretty much a hypocrite. You can look at the legality of it, or try and get super technical to excuse it, but really, it's the same type of **** with more or less the same type of risks.

 

[The Riddler]

I think there is a growing amount of people fed up with the failure that is the "War on Drugs".

I highly suggest seeing the movie "breaking the taboo" its the new one, narrated by Morgan Freeman.

I'm former military police, and I can tell you I dissagree entirely with the war on drugs.

I'm not an advocate of addiction either, I think its horrible, but is a disease that the criminal justice system was never meant to deal with.

Also see the result of alcohol prohibition.

What we have today is the same thing, but simply 10x worse.

The USA (where I'm at) has the worlds highest amount of inmates, per capita, in a country that prides itself on personal freedoms.

http://www.globalcommissionondrugs.org/

I'm not just talking about weed, I'm talking all of it.

Whenever an opening is made for a black market, one exists, then so do all the other criminal elements that come with it, that's the gangs, cartels, the violence over the trade.

Nothing short of complete draconic totalitarian control would win it. I don't feel like living in a police state.

i agree.

this is essentially the argument for legalization. instead of the profits flowing to gangs/cartels, drugs would instead be a government regulated product. this would likely debilitate the black market, putting cartels/gangs out of business while also providing a nice source of tax revenue to the government.

 

[chaseter]

I don't smoke but I have no problem with it being legal. It should be taxed and regulated like everything else. The only people I have known that regularly smoke are poor as **** because they spend all their money on weed. I know there are successful smokers out there but I am sure there are successful drunks too...prolly not as many as the burnouts. So, I don't smoke. I see it as a waste of money and I hate the smell of smoke so I would never ever do it in my home.

 

[Rodrigo90]

It may sound daft. But if it were legalized and under control, they could create something like this for everyone. All I care about is people's well being.

 

[chaseter]

There really isn't a good reason at all for alcohol to be legal over weed. I really do believe anyone who is anti-pot (or anti-drug, in general, frankly) and then goes and drinks deer is pretty much a hypocrite. You can look at the legality of it, or try and get super technical to excuse it, but really, it's the same type of **** with more or less the same type of risks.

I agree to an extent but a glass of wine is not the same as a bump of cocaine or a hit of meth. Weed should be legal and carry about the same laws and repercussions as say alcohol. You can't have any in the front seat of your car while the car is in motion, you can't walk around smoking weed, you can only have so much on you at a time, you can't grow weed unlicensed in your backyard, etc. etc. It's really easy and simple. We get tax revenue, violence related to weed decreases, and you save money in the penal system. It's a win/win/win.

 

[Number 6]

I agree to an extent but a glass of wine is not the same as a bump of cocaine or a hit of meth.

Yeah, this is true, but I think that's much more due to the potency of the drugs in question than their nature. A glass of wine isn't like that in the same way a that a few hits from a joint isn't either (something that most people would at most get a small buzz high, if even that). But, still, to me, by it's nature alcohol is still very much a drug despite what our respective governments may say.

Weed should be legal and carry about the same laws and repercussions as say alcohol. You can't have any in the front seat of your car while the car is in motion, you can't walk around smoking weed, you can only have so much on you at a time, you can't grow weed unlicensed in your backyard, etc. etc. It's really easy and simple. We get tax revenue, violence related to weed decreases, and you save money in the penal system. It's a win/win/win.

I'd be on board with this. As long as you can order it in bars and restaurants.