How much do you really care about X3 being only 103 minutes?

[MoiBijou]

And maybe even...Gambit cameo!

If only... 2 mins of Gambit would cause me a stroke due to intense happiness. p

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

^ X2 had 2 main storylines going on at the same time also... they were just intertwined to connect with each other. How do we know the 2 storylines in this film won't do the same thing?

The evolution of these characters will be a part of those storylines... so their evolution is part of the storyline.

The new characters of Beast and Angel will tie in pretty directly with the cure. And Beast will also tie into anything the government has planned, which likely has something to do with the cure, even though it's Worthington Labs that is developing the cure.

Magneto's war is sparked by the cure.

The Danger Room will take care of reintroducing these characters, to get the general audience familiar with them again (what their powers are, and such).

See where I'm going with this?

The point is, does this movie have a lot of stuff going on? Yes, absolutley. But it is very possible that all this stuff going on actually relates to each other. Character evolution helps to tell the cure storyline. Beast and Angel will be introduced as a part of that storyline. The final battle will be because of that storyline. Phoenix rising could possibly have som impact on the cure, however I'd imagine the cure has been in development since before that. But the destructive capabilities of Magneto and Phoenix combined could force the government to take some more drastic measures regarding this cure, which in my opinion could very well be Sentinels.

All of these different points that everyone brings up as reasons to why this movie should be longer are all things that are probably working together to tell the story. It's not "in the middle of this story about the Cure, we have to find time to introduce Beast and Angel"... no, those characters, their character development, is all part of the cure story arc. It's a "2 birds with one stone" type of deal.

103 minutes would be too short if these story arcs were all separate of each other. But they aren't. Or at least we don't know that they aren't. They could very likely all tie in together, and not require all of that extra time to tell the story. Which is why I think those who are *****ing about it (not those who are just simply concerned) are out of line. Because we're all on the outside looking in. We don't know what's going on. You are all assuming, and you know that to assume is to make an ass out of u and me.

 

[the a1ant]

This isn't a case where lots of stuff was cut out, so I'm not worried that much. They filmed the script, and barely cut anything, so it's not as if the film is being 'dumbed down' or 'butchered' by the studio to appeal to other parties.

Still, for a 'last' film, people expect more time spent, because it is the 'last', etc. I want to see Storm, Cyke, Jean, etc on screen for as long as I can, because we may never see them anymore (the actors) in a future film.

But more time does not always equal more quality. No point in making the film longer, by adding scenes that aren't very important to the storyline. It seems intentional to make this particular film go at a faster pace, and get to the main plot behind the three films (the war). Maybe it's for us to feel the urgency behind what's happening in the plot? I feel confident that it will all work out for us fans

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

If only... 2 mins of Gambit would cause me a stroke due to intense happiness. p

All I ask for at this point is to have Gambit as one of the prisoners in the Alcatraz prison, and give him a Colossus style cameo in the final battle.

Of course, that's assuming that Alcatraz is still a prison, and I don't believe it is.

Other than that, I don't know how Gambit would fit into this storyline from what we know so far. I'm still assuming that they replaced his role with Psylocke though, which angers me.

 

[MoiBijou]

All I ask for at this point is to have Gambit as one of the prisoners in the Alcatraz prison, and give him a Colossus style cameo in the final battle.

Of course, that's assuming that Alcatraz is still a prison, and I don't believe it is.

Other than that, I don't know how Gambit would fit into this storyline from what we know so far. I'm still assuming that they replaced his role with Psylocke though, which angers me.

I know, Nell. Believe me, I know how you feel. Anyway, we can't do nothing at all. I don't think we'll see anything about him in the movie, but who knows... miracles do exist.

 

[FrankCastle6]

Fudge

 

[Storm22]

You're ****ing kidding right? The biggest complaint on X1 was that it DIDNT have enough character development and it moved TOO fast. People didn't want more action, they wanted better action. The people who complained that there should have been more were your usual MTV-attention span young person who prefers Charlies Angels to Lord of the Rings. X1's length was its main flaw, through and through. Ask any professional movie critic or just any fan of movies in general.

Really?? I thought it was the other way round. My mistake then. Still though, calm down, don't have a hissy fit about it!

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

This isn't a case where lots of stuff was cut out, so I'm not worried that much. They filmed the script, and barely cut anything, so it's not as if the film is being 'dumbed down' or 'butchered' by the studio to appeal to other parties.

Still, for a 'last' film, people expect more time spent, because it is the 'last', etc. I want to see Storm, Cyke, Jean, etc on screen for as long as I can, because we may never see them anymore (the actors) in a future film.

But more time does not always equal more quality. No point in making the film longer, by adding scenes that aren't very important to the storyline. It seems intentional to make this particular film go at a faster pace, and get to the main plot behind the three films (the war). Maybe it's for us to feel the urgency behind what's happening in the plot? I feel confident that it will all work out for us fans

Don't worry... this is Jean's Movie...

 

[PWN3R]

Curse you Nell and your essays!!!

 

[Mary]

I can't believe.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

All I ask for at this point is to have Gambit as one of the prisoners in the Alcatraz prison, and give him a Colossus style cameo in the final battle.

Of course, that's assuming that Alcatraz is still a prison, and I don't believe it is.

Other than that, I don't know how Gambit would fit into this storyline from what we know so far. I'm still assuming that they replaced his role with Psylocke though, which angers me.

Ur another hero I admire, Nell. and I saw ur post in the Simon Kinberg thread. ur an awsome guy.

 

[Deep Thinkin'!]

i'm dissapointed of the short time, but the movie's greatness shouldn't rely on the time it takes. It can be 1 hour and rock or 3 hours and stink or vise versa.

 

[Phoenix_Rising]

Guys, putting it simply: Would you prefer X3 to be longer and therefore slower paced and more chance of crappy scenes or slightly shorter so the pace is great and there's much less chance of having scene flops. Therefore, there's much more of a chance that the film will rock so quit moaning about it and wait until you see it on May 26th to judge for yourself?!

 

[X-Maniac]

This isn't a case where lots of stuff was cut out, so I'm not worried that much. They filmed the script, and barely cut anything, so it's not as if the film is being 'dumbed down' or 'butchered' by the studio to appeal to other parties.

Still, for a 'last' film, people expect more time spent, because it is the 'last', etc. I want to see Storm, Cyke, Jean, etc on screen for as long as I can, because we may never see them anymore (the actors) in a future film.

But more time does not always equal more quality. No point in making the film longer, by adding scenes that aren't very important to the storyline. It seems intentional to make this particular film go at a faster pace, and get to the main plot behind the three films (the war). Maybe it's for us to feel the urgency behind what's happening in the plot? I feel confident that it will all work out for us fans

I can sort of understand why there is no 'leftover' footage... I bet they had to move fast to get this movie made right as Canada was going into its cold, dark winter, they had no time for trying out things that might not work, they had to cut straight to it, and 'go for it'. It must be rare for everything that is filmed to make it into a movie, without deleted scenes; they must have been editing their ideas as they went along, being as economical as possible, using their time in the best way. I hope it isn't too frantic - I liked the intro build-up of X1 and X2, where we were led in, knowing something was about to happen. I also hope that the movie does not rely on too much assumed knowledge of the previous two movies - with a two-year gap since X2, people need some reminding, the scene needs to be set. Many critics complained that X2 came too later after X1 and relied upon knowledge/memory of a film released four years previously.

This has to be the worst planning and organisation of any trilogy ever!

I guess they didn't know that X1 would be successful enough to warrant an X2... but by the time X2 was in production, X3 should have been in the writing and planning stages. The organisation of these three films does come across as rather shoddy and inefficient, to say the least. It's as though Fox really didn't have its heart in this at all. Singer's move across to Warner is the biggest sign of this! And it took that to wake up Fox into investing in X3.

I sincerely hope any other trilogy is planned as such from the start, but I suspect we won't get that. It will be done on a film-by-film basis, and if X3 is a success, it will trigger an X4. The films will limp along, one by one. They might want to look at the LoTR and Star Wars trilogies for how to really build anticipation and demand through a set of movies in which events flow from one to another and the gap between them is short enough to keep people's interest.

 

[L0ngsh0t]

It again is just another notch on the careless filmmaking these xmen movies have gone through i think, i haven't seen the movie so i can't give ratner the **** i give singer, but i can get on the producers case to the extent where they decided to write a script, go through pre production, production, andthen post producton all within a year, when on most blockbuster movies it takes at least two....

i still can't wait to see it, but there is no reason these shouldn't be my favorite movies of all time, being that i have been mesmirized by the comics since 4th grade...but they aren't my favorite movies, they are cool movies, nothing more, they aren't better then pirates, goodfellas, sin cit, clerks, etc..

i'm still pumped, but i would be more pumped if the production would be alot better

 

[sebaa]

i can not understand how X3 is going to be 1 45 min , because will have A LOT MORE CHARACTERS, 2 IMPORTANTS PLOTS, MORE EMIOTIONAL FILM, MORE ACTION MORE OF ALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Fanticon]

Well, there we have it...1 hour and 43 mins...
I wasn't gonna say anything until it was confirmed...I'm not saying its gonna suck becuase it has a short running time...but 2 hours is not much to have argued over these past weeks, so none of you should feel bad for stating your opinion. Not like we had a say in it, but it really sucks knowing that the final film in the series (with this known cast) is only going to be 1 hour and 43 minutes. When I see summer films, so called summer blockbusters or event movies...I expect 2hrs minimum...if they said longer than X1 shorter than X2...then thats around the 2 hour mark...it's almost owed to us, the fans, the supporters of the movies...it may not make sense to anyone else...my friends don't seem to care, but it's the third movie...bigger, better and longer, right? Well, no I guess not...I've been skeptical, too, about this movie; changing directors, rushed production...but wait...what's rushed about a 150 million dollar budget...that's more than enough to employ everyone humanly possibble to make a movie that could've been a 9 month production into one that's 7 months...I know Fox is money hungry. I know Ratner is, aside from proffessional, a lapdog for the studios...he's fast and efficient and familiar with big budget productions...this doesn't mean he's no better than Singer to handle an X-men movie...but when he says something like "we only cut 30 seconds" of the movie...than hey, you didn't film enough...and maybe the real topic should be wich 30 seconds...a surprise ending? An un used flashback?...This movie, will still be good,i know it, i have a good feeling about it and it's going to be huge...but I am in full agreement that I disagree with the length...the actors, and the way the movies have been told and molded into things that are not exactly the way the comics went, but still became a staple for the way you can adapt a comic book into a movie in a reality based world that movie audiences and fans can understand...these are the things thati fell in love with...1 hr and 43 mins may not effect the quality...but it will certainly effect the way I feel about it as being the final film (for a while). I think people deserve more thats all...fan or not...I can hear it now walking out of the theatre...non fans and fans alike going..."That was good! That's it, hmm, wonder when the next one comes out?" NEWS FLASH! There won't be a next one for a while unless this somehow breaks 400million domestically...I predict at least 300m...and thats too opitmistic.

 

[J.Howlett]

Again, we still don't know if that running time's with or without credits.

Everyone needs to pause and think from the other side on this. While, I feel that the film should've been at least 2 hours, let's see what Ratner has done.

Considering he has the final film of this trilogy, there's alot that he doesn't have to do. His film will be more plot driven, and yet probably more emotional because he's using existing emotional depth with characters to come to a dramatic conclusion to this X-Men Trilogy. It might not have to be 2 hours considering it's very clear that this is a war film. 5.26.06 holds the answer.

It might come together very well. It might not.

Praying for 1hr. and 43 minutes without credits as the answer.

 

[BBraddockLover]

3rd option

 

[Genosha]

Hey I love X1 as much as the next fan. I went and saw it 5 times when it came out in theaters in that glorious summer of 2000. But the 1 thing that really made me sad about it was how short it was. X-Men needs to be at least 2 hours for each installment.
I'm sorry, as an X-Men fan I put the mutants in a class with other epic series like LOTR and Star Wars. And X1 just felt kind of incomplete. Like there were so many more scenes they could've added to it.

And now it saddens me that X3 is taking the same route. Especially after X2 showed just how epic this franchise really could be.

Sorry, its just my thoughts on this.

 

[The Batman]

The part that disappoints me the most is, that with this news, I truly doubt this movie will reach the level established by Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins.

X3....really shouldve been the movie to step things up. A deep subplot about a cure for mutants, which any minority can relate to? Magneto gearing up for the epic war he's been talking about for the past two films, gathering up alot of mutants, some very well known and beloved? Angel and Beast finally appearing in the X-Films? Kitty and Colossus finally becoming X-Members after being bit players? And most importantly, the Dak Phoenix Saga, for the first time ever, in live action. All this wouldve made X-Men THE movie to beat, not just for comics, but for any movie this year, especially in the face of Superman returning to the big screen after twenty years.

But, the X-Men is not owned by Sony, who started developing spider-man 3's script since...well...when spider-man 2's premiere at the box office. It's not owned by Warner Brothers, who's gotten their heads out of their ass and is producing work like Singer's Superman, Nolan's Batman, V for Vendetta, and Joss Whedon on Wonder Woman. Nope, it was handed to Fox, a company known for half assing its movie's and wanting nothing more than a cheap buck. They never had faith in the X Flicks. Singer couldnt do beast or angel or a danger room because he never had the budget. For X2, all he got was 110 million bucks to make a movie about a dozen characters, 95% of them who have superpowers. Spider-Man 2, on the other hand, got 200 Million. For a movie where only two guys had superpowers. And now, the only reason they give a rats ass is because singer was smart enough to leave.

People wonder why fans have been giving this movie a hard time. You never heard people gripe about X2. Why? Because people had reason to have faith in that movie. We dont have that here. what we have here, is a movie that is looking more and more like another Fantastic Four, or Elektra. The sad part is, both of those movies couldve been on par with the spider-man films if fox cared. We dodged a bullet with X1 and X2, because we had Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto. With X3, its like the fact that having Fox Studios as the backer has finally come to bite the X-Franchise in the ass.

I think of what X3 couldve been, and its just a shame. I think of what the franchise couldve been, and its just sad.

 

[BBraddockLover]

im very dissapointed, but if its good i wont mind

 

[Spidey 2007]

Wait, not confermed? How is this a thread then? lol
Well, if it's not confermed i can breathe easier, but my opinon on running time for this film stands. Under two hours for a non comedy is just a travisty.

well gee guy looks liek kinberg pretty much confirmed it, i posted that before kinberg had to say what he did, lol....but bah....oh well

 

[The Batman]

Guys, putting it simply: Would you prefer X3 to be longer and therefore slower paced and more chance of crappy scenes or slightly shorter so the pace is great and there's much less chance of having scene flops. Therefore, there's much more of a chance that the film will rock so quit moaning about it and wait until you see it on May 26th to judge for yourself?!

Translation: I'm a cheerleader for Fox who thinks they can do no wrong.


Most people just want a two hour movie, or long enough so that each of the plots and subplots are developed accordingly, along with the characters

 

[BBraddockLover]

ld have prefered a time closer to x2 though