How much do you really care about X3 being only 103 minutes?

[bluewolv]

The part that disappoints me the most is, that with this news, I truly doubt this movie will reach the level established by Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins.

X3....really shouldve been the movie to step things up. A deep subplot about a cure for mutants, which any minority can relate to? Magneto gearing up for the epic war he's been talking about for the past two films, gathering up alot of mutants, some very well known and beloved? Angel and Beast finally appearing in the X-Films? Kitty and Colossus finally becoming X-Members after being bit players? And most importantly, the Dak Phoenix Saga, for the first time ever, in live action. All this wouldve made X-Men THE movie to beat, not just for comics, but for any movie this year, especially in the face of Superman returning to the big screen after twenty years.

But, the X-Men is not owned by Sony, who started developing spider-man 3's script since...well...when spider-man 2's premiere at the box office. It's not owned by Warner Brothers, who's gotten their heads out of their ass and is producing work like Singer's Superman, Nolan's Batman, V for Vendetta, and Joss Whedon on Wonder Woman. Nope, it was handed to Fox, a company known for half assing its movie's and wanting nothing more than a cheap buck. They never had faith in the X Flicks. Singer couldnt do beast or angel or a danger room because he never had the budget. For X2, all he got was 110 million bucks to make a movie about a dozen characters, 95% of them who have superpowers. Spider-Man 2, on the other hand, got 200 Million. For a movie where only two guys had superpowers. And now, the only reason they give a rats ass is because singer was smart enough to leave.

People wonder why fans have been giving this movie a hard time. You never heard people gripe about X2. Why? Because people had reason to have faith in that movie. We dont have that here. what we have here, is a movie that is looking more and more like another Fantastic Four, or Elektra. The sad part is, both of those movies couldve been on par with the spider-man films if fox cared. We dodged a bullet with X1 and X2, because we had Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto. With X3, its like the fact that having Fox Studios as the backer has finally come to bite the X-Franchise in the ass.

I think of what X3 couldve been, and its just a shame. I think of what the franchise couldve been, and its just sad.

Couldn't agree more

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

Sometimes when I read this thread I find myself utterly shocked at how pessimistic people are being. Personally, i've never seen the point in lacking hope, I don't buy into that 'We'll be less dissapointed when it's ****' Bullcrap. But obviously, it's your own perogative.

I will say that the situation with X3 is unique, and don't think it is comparable to any other movie production in history, particularly a Superhero/Comic Book movie.

 

[GreatWhiteWhale]

*Dressed in Cheerleader uniform*

"Give me an F! Give me an O! Give me an X! What does that spell?

"BUSINESS!"

Anyway, I'm not going to pander to either side, sayin "It should be at least 2 hours", or saying "I want a fast paced movie, X2 was too long anyway".

There is a very real part of me that wishes the running time hadn't been announced, that expected the running time to be closer to X2. X2 did not seem long to me, i was far too enthralled.

But there is also a very real part of me, that for better or worse, trusts the X3 production. I trust that Brett and the other Film-Makers know what they're doing and that studio politics hasn't affected this movie.

No, i'm not going to listen to any other poster that shouts "But the Studio has ****ed this up! The film-makers aren't in control!" or "The film-makers are **** anyway! Look at the crap they've produced in the past"

Personally, i have faith that the guys behind this film are making the right decisions, for the good of the film. I've sinced abandoned hope that this film will be everything I always wanted it to be, but I believe 100% that it will be a damn good film that I enjoy immensely, and the running time does not bother me so much anymore.

 

[tonytr1687]

The part that disappoints me the most is, that with this news, I truly doubt this movie will reach the level established by Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins.

X3....really shouldve been the movie to step things up. A deep subplot about a cure for mutants, which any minority can relate to? Magneto gearing up for the epic war he's been talking about for the past two films, gathering up alot of mutants, some very well known and beloved? Angel and Beast finally appearing in the X-Films? Kitty and Colossus finally becoming X-Members after being bit players? And most importantly, the Dak Phoenix Saga, for the first time ever, in live action. All this wouldve made X-Men THE movie to beat, not just for comics, but for any movie this year, especially in the face of Superman returning to the big screen after twenty years.

But, the X-Men is not owned by Sony, who started developing spider-man 3's script since...well...when spider-man 2's premiere at the box office. It's not owned by Warner Brothers, who's gotten their heads out of their ass and is producing work like Singer's Superman, Nolan's Batman, V for Vendetta, and Joss Whedon on Wonder Woman. Nope, it was handed to Fox, a company known for half assing its movie's and wanting nothing more than a cheap buck. They never had faith in the X Flicks. Singer couldnt do beast or angel or a danger room because he never had the budget. For X2, all he got was 110 million bucks to make a movie about a dozen characters, 95% of them who have superpowers. Spider-Man 2, on the other hand, got 200 Million. For a movie where only two guys had superpowers. And now, the only reason they give a rats ass is because singer was smart enough to leave.

People wonder why fans have been giving this movie a hard time. You never heard people gripe about X2. Why? Because people had reason to have faith in that movie. We dont have that here. what we have here, is a movie that is looking more and more like another Fantastic Four, or Elektra. The sad part is, both of those movies couldve been on par with the spider-man films if fox cared. We dodged a bullet with X1 and X2, because we had Bryan Singer and Tom DeSanto. With X3, its like the fact that having Fox Studios as the backer has finally come to bite the X-Franchise in the ass.

I think of what X3 couldve been, and its just a shame. I think of what the franchise couldve been, and its just sad.

Unfortunately, I must agree. But hey, at least we're getting an epic Superman Returns. For the past few years, it seems like every summer has had one excellent comic-book/superhero flick, and one mediocre or bad comic-book/superhero flick. It started in 2003 with X2 (the excellent one) and The Hulk (the mediocre one). Then in 2004 we got Spider-man 2 (the excellent one) and Catwoman (the terrible one). 2005 had Batman Begins (excellent) and Fantastic Four (mediocre). It's looking more and more like X3 will become the mediocre one, and I'm not just saying this b/c of the running time. It's a culmination of things that have happened, signs we've seen in the past.

 

[LoGaN's RuNNer]

While you have good points I still believe that X3 is going to be a great film! Brett is not a bad director at all I came name two really good movies he did off the top of my head, Red Dragon, and Family man. He also did Rush hour 1 and 2, so I stil have faith he can pull this off!

 

[KenK]

Are you kidding me?!? The fact the the film isn't 2 hours or more has some of you saying it'll be as bad as Catwoman? Why can't we just wait until the film comes out, especially after so many of us were excited after the second trailer was released?

 

[Eros]

X-2 was 133 mins long , and every scene in that movie was great. They balanced action with character drama in X-2 very very well. So i guess perhaps the story in X-3 is not as massive as it was in X-2. We know all the main characters, and thus no intros are needed for them. So maybe the first hour will deal with Jeans return,Cyclops vanishes,the cure plot,the goverments plans, and Magneto and his new more massive brotherhood. I mean it will a very tight fit, and i assume the last 33 mins of the movie will be more heavy action leading to a final battle.

 

[tonytr1687]

Are you kidding me?!? The fact the the film isn't 2 hours or more has some of you saying it'll be as bad as Catwoman? Why can't we just wait until the film comes out, especially after so many of us were excited after the second trailer was released?

If you're referring to me, I didn't say it'll be as bad as Catwoman. And read my post better. It's not just the running time.

 

[tonytr1687]

X-2 was 133 mins long , and every scene in that movie was great. They balanced action with character drama in X-2 very very well. So i guess perhaps the story in X-3 is not as massive as it was in X-2. We know all the main characters, and thus no intros are needed for them. So maybe the first hour will deal with Jeans return,Cyclops vanishes,the cure plot,the goverments plans, and Magneto and his new more massive brotherhood. I mean it will a very tight fit, and i assume the last 33 mins of the movie will be more heavy action leading to a final battle.

Well...I cant fathom how X3's story could be smaller than X2. Isn't each sequel supposed to be bigger in scope than the last?

 

[Sun_Down]

i'm wrong? possible ..but please so, explain me how in 103 minutes Lucas and Richard Marquand could have made justice ,to the Return of the Jedi plot points and characters, and especially how they could have made the story breath , building to that great (epic)final attack.

Easy : get rid of the ****ing Ewoks. Sorry, you lobbed up a meatball and I had to take a swing.

 

[Eros]

most of todays big budget flicks average about 2 hours. starswars,V for vendatta,POTC,Batman Begins,Spiderman-2 and Misson impossible 3. The average is about two hours or so. But im sure X-3s story only needs 103 mins anways so im looking forward to it!

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

I would definitely prefer something more substantial.

Then again, some of the most classic sci-fi films of all time have consistently satisfied audiences with a similar time frame. Star Trek: The Wrath Of Khan comes to mind.

And Terminator 3.

 

[Eros]

Terminator 3 is not a classic, it should of ended with T-2.

 

[Pickle-El]

Guys, putting it simply: Would you prefer X3 to be longer and therefore slower paced and more chance of crappy scenes or slightly shorter so the pace is great and there's much less chance of having scene flops. Therefore, there's much more of a chance that the film will rock so quit moaning about it and wait until you see it on May 26th to judge for yourself?!

The way you go about reasoning with yourself is quite entertaining.

 

[Slim_X]

I think of what X3 couldve been, and its just a shame. I think of what the franchise couldve been, and its just sad.

You sound like you've already seen the movie

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

Terminator 3 is not a classic, it should of ended with T-2.

I take it you don't like the Critters sequels either.

 

[Tony Stark]

Translation: I'm a cheerleader for Fox who thinks they can do no wrong.


Most people just want a two hour movie, or long enough so that each of the plots and subplots are developed accordingly, along with the characters

That's totally unfair, even the script writers said that basically everything they wrote was filmed.

If the movie feels rushed then you can complain, but don't blame Fox, the script writers and movie makers did that.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

any comparison to EpIII is moot, b/c that's all in-house with Lucas and all Fox does is distribute

aka, Lucas gets final decision on running time

 

[kytrigger]

I take it you don't like the Critters sequels either.

That movie rocked.

Also, I think Terminator 3 gets a bad rap. It wasn't as memorable as T2 (hardly any action movies are) was it was far from the crapfest most people seem to make it out to be.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Unfortunately, I must agree. But hey, at least we're getting an epic Superman Returns. For the past few years, it seems like every summer has had one excellent comic-book/superhero flick, and one mediocre or bad comic-book/superhero flick. It started in 2003 with X2 (the excellent one) and The Hulk (the mediocre one). Then in 2004 we got Spider-man 2 (the excellent one) and Catwoman (the terrible one). 2005 had Batman Begins (excellent) and Fantastic Four (mediocre). It's looking more and more like X3 will become the mediocre one, and I'm not just saying this b/c of the running time. It's a culmination of things that have happened, signs we've seen in the past.

I have my own theory on that excellent/mediocre superhero flick.

X2 (May 02, 2003) vs. Hulk (June 20, 2003)
Spider-Man 2 (June 30, 2004) vs. Catwoman (July 23, 2004)
Batman Begins (June 15, 2005) vs. Fantastic 4 (July 08, 2005)

There's another pattern. The 'excellent' superhero movies were released before the 'mediocre' superhero movies.

So...

X3 (May 26, 2006) vs. Superman Returns (June 30, 2006).

Really, all this talk of how 'poor' X3 is should happen after the movie is released. It's fine if you think it's going to suck, it's your opinion, but I'm going to disagree. There have been more and more signs that it'll be great.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Worthy

You're Backkkk. Yayyyy.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Worthy

You're Backkkk. Yayyyy.

Not completely.

I will be back... soon. With something up my sleeve...

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

...... WORTHY

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Not completely.

I will be back... soon. With something up my sleeve...

candy? ...

 

[TNC9852002]

I will be back... soon. With something up my sleeve...

WTF?

-TNC