How much do you really care about X3 being only 103 minutes?

[KenK]

That aspect does worry me. It's two years since the last movie. X2 was criticised by the mainstream (I recall the BBC's review particularly) for relying on too much assumed knowledge of a movie that was four years earlier.

**** The UK press!! X2 was one of the best reviewed major studio films of 2003 here in the good ol' US of A, not to mention those among us who feel it's one of, if not THE best Superhero movie ever!!! Aside from asking "Where's Nightcrawler", no one who's seen the other two films will need to be brought up to speed that much. Anyone planning on seeing this movie without seeing the first two, that's THEIR problem!

 

[WorthyStevens]

Well, i am a big, big fan of the Hulk movie, and even i admit that the Hulk could have been trimmed down. BB on the other hand didnt need to be even in the slightest IMO.

And while Callisto, Juggernaut et al will be supporting characters, they still need some foundation laid down, like their powers, and reasons for joining Magneto.

Their reason for joining Magneto? Humans hate for mutants. The same as it was in X1.

Their powers need to be explained? Toad's nor Sabretooth's were explained in X1. Nor did Deathstrike in X2.

 

[Mr Sensitive]

What makes yours the "correct" method of judging art? Who decided on this method?
Art is not a fundamental law of nature. I can say “clouds are made from water vapor” because clouds are, in fact made from water vapor. If you believe that clouds are made from asbestos and silly string, it does not change the fact that clouds are made from water vapor. No man has to believe that clouds are made of water vapor for it to be true.
Art on the other hand is a human institution. It is not defined by any kind of natural laws. So who made the decision as to what criteria you judge art by? Was there a panel? A summit? A braintrust? Where did these laws come from?

SilentType, carissimo,

for one who calls himself with this appellative you’re pretty talkative, aren’t you?

First things first: it’s not my method.

It’s Horatio’s (Ars Poetica), Voltaire’s (Lettres Anglaises), Ezra Pound’s (ABC of Reading. He stated the method was “comparison” of the best ones), François Truffaut’s (Cahiers du Cinema + Politique des Auteurs) & of every good fellow who has devoted himself to a bit of qualitative thinking about art.

You have a very narrow view of science if you believe it is only pragmatic observation of nature. Quantum physics is getting near the study of metaphysics, for instance.

Art adjustes itself to the new developments. Flaubert’s absent narrator puts a good deal of badly written novels out of circulation. Le roman fleuve, for instance. Nouvelle vague in France makes the previous romantic and stage French cinema disappear.

One defintion: great art refines (or changes) your understanding of the world.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Seems to short for all the material they have to cram in

 

[SilentType]

SilentType, carissimo,
for one who calls himself with this appellative you’re pretty talkative, aren’t you?

Not really. A paragraph here and there.
Frankly I'm finished with this debate. There will never be any real conclusion. We each have our own definitions or art, and I'll leave it at that.

 

[DRob]

Hello my name is DRob and I'm a new member and I have some exciting new news, I have a very secretive insider source that is exactly sure of X3 running time which is approx. 141 mins.

Although my source which only made an estimate guess she is defininatly 2hours long and certainly over 130 mins. At the moment that is all that I know but I'm sure she will give e more info as the movie nears.

One of the secret reasons of the time mistake was an editing error but I'm sure it wasn't a sure mistake from Mark Helfrich and crew. So I hope my info was important to u guys.

 

[imaperson2]

Their reason for joining Magneto? Humans hate for mutants. The same as it was in X1.

Their powers need to be explained? Toad's nor Sabretooth's were explained in X1. Nor did Deathstrike in X2.

Werent deathstrike's sort of explained in X2? when stryker was talking to logan?

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Hello my name is DRob and I'm a new member and I have some exciting new news, I have a very secretive insider source that is exactly sure of X3 running time which is approx. 141 mins.

Although my source which only made an estimate guess she is defininatly 2hours long and certainly over 130 mins. At the moment that is all that I know but I'm sure she will give e more info as the movie nears.

One of the secret reasons of the time mistake was an editing error but I'm sure it wasn't a sure mistake from Mark Helfrich and crew. So I hope my info was important to u guys.

welcome to the hype...

 

[BMM]

While I would like to believe this, and hope your source is correct, it has been stated many times by the writers of the movie (and I believe the director) that X3 will be shorter than X2, which would put it under the 141 minute mark you're suggesting.

 

[SingItWithMeNow]

Hello my name is DRob and I'm a new member and I have some exciting new news, I have a very secretive insider source that is exactly sure of X3 running time which is approx. 141 mins.

Although my source which only made an estimate guess she is defininatly 2hours long and certainly over 130 mins. At the moment that is all that I know but I'm sure she will give e more info as the movie nears.

One of the secret reasons of the time mistake was an editing error but I'm sure it wasn't a sure mistake from Mark Helfrich and crew. So I hope my info was important to u guys.

hmm...

 

[DRob]

At first I thought that her news was "suspicious" she did point out that there would'nt be too many deleted scenes so hopefully take this news with a grain of salt.

 

[TNC9852002]

Ummm...No, I really don't think that I should believe you, DRob..

-TNC

 

[DRob]

Hopfully I dont set of some strange contreversy or get my freind fired or maybe get some lawsuit from Fox studios in the mail along with my ACT scores but to clarify this news maybe 80% factual but the news is that rumors were going around her office that the movie would be 141 mins.

But before the mass confusion starts this was before the news from Cannes that it was 1 hour and 43 mins. So this news could be changed at any time since they're still in the editing process. But the news made me feel so relaxed that I couldn't make much sense of it, but at the time I so was glad to report.

By the way I'm not saying it could' nt be 141 mins, all I'm saying is that it could change either way since it is the movie business. Just as long Tim Rothman doesn't sue me!

(Anyways check out Darkhorisons.com and check out upcoming movies and u might find that Superman Returns is 165mins. Gasp! but that maybe just some odd number.
Just food for thought)

 

[Redd_Angel]

welcome, DRob!!

thanks for the info. one thing though- do u think u could make your font size a little smaller?
thanks

 

[FieryBalrog]

Are you saying there is a logical argument for clouds being made out of silly string? That is where I'm going to have to wash my hands of this debate. Perhaps I'll go play with my unicorn under my rainbow tree.

No, I'm saying logic is a construct of the human mind, just like beauty is.

but whatever. This is all getting really off-topic anyways.

 

[FieryBalrog]

Hello my name is DRob and I'm a new member and I have some exciting new news, I have a very secretive insider source that is exactly sure of X3 running time which is approx. 141 mins.

Although my source which only made an estimate guess she is defininatly 2hours long and certainly over 130 mins. At the moment that is all that I know but I'm sure she will give e more info as the movie nears.

One of the secret reasons of the time mistake was an editing error but I'm sure it wasn't a sure mistake from Mark Helfrich and crew. So I hope my info was important to u guys.

Someone break out the Bingo board, I think we have an A2?

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

Post entirity lost... AGAIN! For the second friggin' time! I guess it just wasn't meant to be.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Their reason for joining Magneto? Humans hate for mutants. The same as it was in X1.

But there were only a few who hated humans in X1

Their powers need to be explained? Toad's nor Sabretooth's were explained in X1. Nor did Deathstrike in X2.

Toads and Sabretooth's are pretty self explanatory, even then Toad had brief demonstration with his tongue grabbing the bird in the tree. As for Deathstryke, her powers were explained, remember this "I used to think you were one of a kind Wolverine......I was wrong" (Camera focuses on Deathstryke). That seems pretty explanatory to me.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hi DRob, welcome to the hype, but the info from your friend is wrong, sorry. Both the writers have continually said X3 wont be as long as X2, which was 128 mins.

 

[Mr Sensitive]

But that would be beautiful, I mean, 141 minutes. That would be beautiful.

 

[Kanon]

One of the secret reasons of the time mistake was an editing error but I'm sure it wasn't a sure mistake from Mark Helfrich and crew. So I hope my info was important to u guys.

An editing error?! that caused a 40 minutes error?!

PS: Welcome to the Hype

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

Maybe the editing error was "lack of Cyclops."

They remembered they were making an X-Men movie, and fixed it.

 

[LEX]

Someone break out the Bingo board, I think we have an A2?

A1?

 

[thegameq]

That aspect does worry me. It's two years since the last movie. X2 was criticised by the mainstream (I recall the BBC's review particularly) for relying on too much assumed knowledge of a movie that was four years earlier.

The gap between X2 and X3 is less..but still. On the one hand, this is a trilogy with a letter '3' in it, so audiences should be wise enough to realise they need to remember some of X1 and X2. But on the other hand, people aren't that intellectual about these things, they will expect the film to stand on its own merits without re-watching/buying the previous two movies.

Simon said the movie was made primarily for fans who knew the material, and thus it dives quickly into action, using the DR scene as a sort of reminder of the various mutant powers... but they need to attract mainstream viewers as well as fans.

I hope the marketing and publicity helps to remind people of X1 and X2 and the flow of the storyline. I think Brett's idea of using the DR scene to remind people of the powers was brilliant and I hope it will be sufficient.

Yeah I know what you mean. I will probably be giving my girlfriend (reluctantly) a refresher course at the beginning of the film when we see it.

 

[thegameq]

Their reason for joining Magneto? Humans hate for mutants. The same as it was in X1.

Nevermind.