How much potential do you believe Captain America has?

[watchmen2009]

thats what I say to a cap film. No more pro America movies

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[watchmen2009]

Cooler than the comic book? Have you read Brubaker's run? It's one of the best things in comics today...

i know its cool
but the movie like i said should a lil more realstic
thats all what am saying

 

[CaptainClown]

I want to sit with the vets when they are witnessing this thinking, where was Captain America where I was at?

 

[Red Mask]

Captain America has a lot of potential. It could do for the America what Donner's Superman movie did decades ago.

 

[Jordacar]

Captain America has a lot of potential. It could do for the America what Donner's Superman movie did decades ago.

Damn! I was gonna say that!

Yeah, if done right, the Cap movie should have a scope as big as the original Superman in terms of A-movie filmmaking, storytelling, hell, even acting.

 

[KangConquers]

i know its cool
but the movie like i said should a lil more realstic
thats all what am saying

What's unrealistic about Brubaker's run? Absolutely nothing...

It's gritty realism at it's finest.

 

[Bubonic]

France is a socialist state?
Anyways, in theory socialism would be a nice system, the only reason why it is scrutinized so heavily is because it challenges the current dominant system.

Even though Captain America is not pro America, that doesn't mean his character wouldn't be misconstrued as such in a movie.
Plus Captain America is a bit of a patronizing character, it sort of epitomizes the American notion that the world is helpless without its intervention.
You always need an American somewhere around to save the day, elsewise the fabrics of civilization and humanity will crumble.
And the worse thing is, a lot of people buy into this sort of logic. Hell, leader of the free world, subjugator of the not so free world.

 

[CaptainClown]

France is a socialist state?
Anyways, in theory socialism would be a nice system, the only reason why it is scrutinized so heavily is because it challenges the current dominant system.

Even though Captain America is not pro America, that doesn't mean his character wouldn't be misconstrued as such in a movie.
Plus Captain America is a bit of a patronizing character, it sort of epitomizes the American notion that the world is helpless without its intervention.
You always need an American somewhere around to save the day, elsewise the fabrics of civilization and humanity will crumble.
And the worse thing is, a lot of people buy into this sort of logic. Hell, leader of the free world, subjugator of the not so free world.

ya

I also would wonder what my grand dad would be thinking if he saw captain America at DDay and Captain America helped them win the battle.

I personally feel that something along those lines would be kind of patronizing for soldiers who fought in real combat. Though I have yet to read the comics so (shrug) i might be wrong

 

[Bubonic]

I was thinking about it in another sense, but you bring up a good point.
I mean, in the comics for most soldiers its the highest honour to fight alongside such a super-patriot, but I suppose if you've accomplished great accolades on the battlefield, wtv you'd do would be shadowed by Caps accomplishments.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

No more pro America movies

I know,this is why i don't expect too much from a Captain America movie over seas.The world doesn't exactly like America anymore.But a Cap film should be made,it should have more power than the Spider-Man films.

 

[CaptainClown]

it really wouldn't be a smart thing to invest money into, especially with the special effects and so on, it is definitly going to cost alot and because it will more then likely not do well over seas. It poses too much of a risk to actually do.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I know,this is why i don't expect too much from a Captain America movie over seas.The world doesn't exactly like America anymore.But a Cap film should be made,it should have more power than the Spider-Man films.

Except Captain America really isn't a pro-America character anymore like he was in World War II. He's more of a pro-American Dream. The American ideal. You know freedom, liberty, equality, apple pie, and whatnot.

It's about a guy who got drafted, wanted to fight for his country, turned into a super soldier, and got turned into a propaganda machine, just like those guys at Iwo Jima.

Anyone who says that Captain America would be some "pro-America F**K YEAH!" character, don't know Captain America.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Anyone who says that Captain America would be some "pro-America F**K YEAH!" character, don't know Captain America.

We know that, but Joe Foreigner will see a guy called Captain America dressed in the Stars & Stripes and immediately scorn the character without ever knowing what the character actually is.

 

[CaptainClown]

We know that, but Joe Foreigner will see a guy called Captain America dressed in the Stars & Stripes and immediately scorn the character without ever knowing what the character actually is.

ya I mean 300 got flack because some people felt it was a pro american war against Iran.

 

[Bubonic]

ya I mean 300 got flack because some people felt it was a pro american war against Iran.

Well I could see some parallels there, in essence everything is propaganda to some point, movies aren't just entertainment, they might tell us the ideals to strive for, what to avoid, who's in charge, what to eat, how to act... It's a very powerful medium.

 

[MilkmanDan]

We know that, but Joe Foreigner will see a guy called Captain America dressed in the Stars & Stripes and immediately scorn the character without ever knowing what the character actually is.

That's most likely true. Cap really isn't an iconic or even that well-known character outside America. The fairly common dislike of current U.S politics aside, Captain America is just plain silly from the view point of many foreigners. Even more so than super-heroes in general. My guess is that, at least in Europe, when people will see a big poster of a muscle-bound man dressed in Stars & Stripes costume with the title "CAPTAIN AMERICA", they are going to point and they are going to laugh.

 

[Steve Rogers]

I've heard quite the opposite, that he is a popular and well known character in Europe.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Captain America is going to be big in America, that alone will counter smaller box office overseas. But I bet CA can still be succesful overseas, if it's doing the following:

- Make a stellar film. That's why it needs the best director Marvel can buy to arrange a good film.
- Less issue about current situation, more about fantasy. That's why I like WW2-only CA for the first film. As in Indiana Jones, Nazi can make good enemies as they're universally hated. Hydra on the other hand will make a campy action bordering between James Bond and Austin Powers.
- Create a cartoon series at least a year before the movie. Pave the way through the children and the young at heart.
- Marketing and promo barrage.
- Make sure that Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor are good movies. Soon any movies by Marvel Studios are trusted in quality.

 

[CaptainClown]

Well they really aren't going to go down that hardcore gritty look for one major point and that is kids. CA in the end is a superhero film and he has to appeal to the demographic which usually is kids, they want to hook that next generation. SHowing them a saving private ryan film feat. CA might turn them off. Also many would not want a gritty CA to mix with fantasy figures such as the avengers, just like how they don't want BB batman in JLA

 

[Red Mask]

I know,this is why i don't expect too much from a Captain America movie over seas.The world doesn't exactly like America anymore.But a Cap film should be made,it should have more power than the Spider-Man films.

This movie should not be about American imperialism. It can still succeed outside of America, Canada, and Europe. Cap is a hero who fights the good fight. He's not Jack Bauer or Rumsfield. He's the Super Patriot. Give us a good fight and he'll earn respect.

 

[Jordacar]

I think that one way to approach it and not make it about American Imperialism is to focus on Cap as a character and his personal journey.

 

[Mr. Socko]

It has the potential to be the best comic book film in history and even pick up a few Academy Awards. It has the potential to shape up all of America, to really give the general audience a symbol to look up to. As others have said, it could do what Donner's Superman did.


But it won't...

 

[ChickenScratch]

What's great about Captain America is the same as what makes Superman graet. They both stand for the heroic ideal, always doing what's right and just. Setting the movie in and around WW2 will give them a chance to show the world being pulled under in the war and people loosing hope then the tide changes when people see him emerge. It can be a fable about the strength of the individual and doing the right thing no matter the cost.

 

[CaptainClown]

What's great about Captain America is the same as what makes Superman graet. They both stand for the heroic ideal, always doing what's right and just. Setting the movie in and around WW2 will give them a chance to show the world being pulled under in the war and people loosing hope then the tide changes when people see him emerge. It can be a fable about the strength of the individual and doing the right thing no matter the cost.

wouldn't that kind of be an insult to the real heroes of America during WW2 who lost their friends and brothers during the real battles. I mean we already neglect veterans enough now, and not acknowledging them and saying a superhero was the turning tide of the war I personally feel is kind of offensive.

 

[KangConquers]

That's most likely true. Cap really isn't an iconic or even that well-known character outside America. The fairly common dislike of current U.S politics aside, Captain America is just plain silly from the view point of many foreigners. Even more so than super-heroes in general. My guess is that, at least in Europe, when people will see a big poster of a muscle-bound man dressed in Stars & Stripes costume with the title "CAPTAIN AMERICA", they are going to point and they are going to laugh.

That's not true at all. Check your facts before you post.

according to MSN Captain America has comic sales totalling 210 million in 75 countries. To say that Captain America can't be a hit outside of the U.S. is to be ignorant.