How much potential do you believe Captain America has?

[Gotham]

Kevin Feige, a man of few words, has said that Captain America will be the next project moved into the top slate. How much potential do you think the film actually has? Good? Bad? Too little of a plot?

Express a concern here!

 

[Wolfman]

No concerns yet. It can be good or it can be bad, can't really say yet.

 

[Artistsean]

Depends on several factors that haven't been decided.
It could be as good as Iron Man is looking right now, or as bad as Daredevil or the Hulk. Don't know yet.

 

[Joker]

If done right, it could be the best superhero movie ever made...same goes for Superman, if they ever actually did it right, it could be incredible...but, they never do any of them exactly right, so who knows

 

[Mr Jide]

superman movies in this day and age imo is boring. His "wow" factor has expired. However, the thing with Cap is, he's a man, a super soldier put into superhero situations, which makes for a more interesting movie to watch.
I believe there is a lot of potential with this and like anything in life, its all a matter of how it's executed.

 

[November Rain]

A top notch captain america film could win oscars...

It's pretty much the perfect story about a kid who gets a chance, sacrifices his body for his country, goes off and turns the tide of a war, averts nuclear weaponary hitting the states, is lost and wakes up in a new world.

ultimately even though the world has changed around him and the views of this place are not shared, he still must find a reason to keep fighting.

His story apart from the hulks is probably one of the most complex

but peeps unfortunately are going to cash in on the simplest lowest commone denominator version...


the action should take a back seat to the story telling and only be in small high octane doses.

the only problem i have with it now is establishing a modern day threat that would keep to the realism.

not yet sure how to do a red skull translation.

 

[CaptainClown]

wins oscars... umm I wouldn't go That far.

 

[November Rain]

If you as a fan aren't hoping for a high quality film and will always see this genre of film as a sub genre, then how will they ever progress?

I hate to be cliche but if the lord of the rings can be taken seriously in the world, what's to stop any other superhero based story.

With the right story being told, i can't see what would stop it.

however i have a feeling it won't be made like that. It doesnt mean the film at this stage won't have the potential.

 

[chiefchirpa]

But Lord of the Rings don't win the main oscar prizes. As much as we're fan of comic book movies, the chance for one winning an oscar is slim. It will be a good movie but cannot be the best.

 

[November Rain]

the return of the king won best film?



and why are you already limiting the potential of what 'could' be if everything went well.

 

[Steve Rogers]

Cap winning Oscars? That would be awesome. This could and should be Marvel's best film to date. There are so many great ingredients in the Captain America story, plus right now is a perfect time to have Cap return. We feel cheated by our government, hate our president, mired in an unwinnable war, have no social security, no health care, no hope for a better future...we need an American hero now like never before. If the movie plays on those themes it will appeal to a broader audience than just comic book fan boys. As a result of the topic and the times, this movie could be beyond brilliant. However if it's just Cap thumping on his chest and whizing his shield around, the movie will suck. I mean, now is a perfect time for Cap to come back. He can be thawed out, see what's happening in Iraq and ask why the U.S. is doing the same things the Germans did in WWII. That's drama.

Cap could be great! Or it could get seriously f**ked up.

 

[Mr Jide]

Exactly! November Rain has made some great points. I mean seriously, fanboys are the worst. They don't even believe or have faith in the things they subscribe to. I'm not a CA fanatic, I'm a casual CA fan and I know enough about the mythos and I believe that CA can actually be one of the few comic book movies with enough potential to snatch a lot of respect and appreciation from the cinema media as a whole. Like I said above, it all depends on the movie's excecution. If Jackson can do wonders with a thick-ass fantasy book and turn them into mega movies where fans and non-fans floked to see it, why cant comic book movies with more than enough credible source material achieve similar success?

We've seen enough great movies about war, tv shows like 24 that can all be used to draw inspiration on making the best CAP movies possible, there's no reason why this movie can't rise from the standards already set by comic book movies already released.

 

[Mr Jide]

Cap winning Oscars? That would be awesome. This could and should be Marvel's best film to date. There are so many great ingredients in the Captain America story, plus right now is a perfect time to have Cap return. We feel cheated by our government, hate our president, mired in an unwinnable war, have no social security, no health care, no hope for a better future...we need an American hero now like never before. If the movie plays on those themes it will appeal to a broader audience than just comic book fan boys. As a result of the topic and the times, this movie could be beyond brilliant. However if it's just Cap thumping on his chest and whizing his shield around, the movie will suck. I mean, now is a perfect time for Cap to come back. He can be thawed out, see what's happening in Iraq and ask why the U.S. is doing the same things the Germans did in WWII. That's drama.

Cap could be great! Or it could get seriously f**ked up.

QFT.

 

[November Rain]

Exactly! November Rain has made some great points. I mean seriously, fanboys are the worst. They don't even believe or have faith in the things they subscribe to. I'm not a CA fanatic, I'm a casual CA fan and I know enough about the mythos and I believe that CA can actually be one of the few comic book movies with enough potential to snatch a lot of respect and appreciation from the cinema media as a whole. Like I said above, it all depends on the movie's excecution. If Jackson can do wonders with a thick-ass fantasy book and turn them into mega movies where fans and non-fans floked to see it, why cant comic book movies with more than enough credible source material achieve similar success?

We've seen enough great movies about war, tv shows like 24 that can all be used to draw inspiration on making the best CAP movies possible, there's no reason why this movie can't rise from the standards already set by comic book movies already released.

I think it's because deep down comic fans don't want good films, they don't want good anything, they are just happy seeing their favourite characters slug it out against one another in...weak stories...

just like house of m, just like civil war, just like world war hulk.

you could have the best story in the world but i assure you if cap's shield didn't return to him or if he didnt have wings on his head gear, a large proprotion of fans would be upset.

For What...?

look at the iron man trailer, probably as close to source material as possible while translating it to modern times. Still some people are complaining.

 

[Steve Rogers]

QFT.

I don't know what that means

 

[November Rain]

quoted for truth

 

[Steve Rogers]

Got'cha. Thanks.

 

[ChickenScratch]

It has the potential to be this huge majestic thin like Donner's Superman. If tackled right and given the right amount of seriousness and shows how high the stakes are why America needs him then it would be great.

 

[KangConquers]

Captain America has the potential to be a classic award winning piece of cinema.

The biggest problem they're facing is trying not to politicize Cap too much. You need to show that Cap cares about people, first and foremost. Yeah, he's a governmental tool, but don't turn him into a political monkey. Have his stance on politics be "I don't care, I'm not a politician. I just want to protect people."

That way they sidestep him being too liberal for some, or too conservative for others. Also if they want Cap to make a splash overseas (Which it has potential to...remember, Captain America is read in 70 countries) they need to put him at odds with some of the stuff that pisses the rest of the world off about the U.S.

In summary, it has massive potential, but it's going to take surgical detail to get all of the important points right.

 

[Steve Rogers]

Captain America has the potential to be a classic award winning piece of cinema.

The biggest problem they're facing is trying not to politicize Cap too much. You need to show that Cap cares about people, first and foremost. Yeah, he's a governmental tool, but don't turn him into a political monkey. Have his stance on politics be "I don't care, I'm not a politician. I just want to protect people."

That way they sidestep him being too liberal for some, or too conservative for others. Also if they want Cap to make a splash overseas (Which it has potential to...remember, Captain America is read in 70 countries) they need to put him at odds with some of the stuff that pisses the rest of the world off about the U.S.

In summary, it has massive potential, but it's going to take surgical detail to get all of the important points right.

Yes, yes, and yes. You my friend, get it

 

[Spider-Fan]

Did Feige say it was a lock for 2009?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

In terms of quality, I absolutely think that Captain America has potential. The character is one of the deepest and most interesting in all of Marvel comics. The basic fish out of water story is a tried and true classic for hundreds of years.

Financially, they've got a problem. Unfortunately in this case, I think outside politics would seriously impact the ability of this film to find an audience outside of the US. A lot of people will refuse to see a Captain America film based soley on the fact he's Captain America without knowing a thing about the character, unless the American government or even Cap himself is shown to constantly be in the wrong. Its sad, but its the way things are. Just look at all the complaining about a simple American flag shot in the Spider-Man movies and the effort that DC made with Superman Returns to downplay the idea of Superman being an American superhero.

 

[Gotham]

Did Feige say it was a lock for 2009?

He said that the film was the difinitive "next" project for Marvel.

 

[ANTOINE X]

I don't think it will ever match spiderman, but also like the guys said it depends of a lot of factor to know if it will be a big franchise.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Actually comic fanboys or gaming fanboys or any fanboys are the worst. They believe what they like to read or game is the greatest stuff in the planet, but in most occassions that it's not. Now I'm not saying some of you're a fanboy or anything, but people on this planet have different views on looking materials. What's is gold to you and me, a random guy on this planet can spot its blemish. Historically shown no comics movie ever received cinema highest accolades. Not even the vaunted Batman Begins, Superman or Spider-Man.

It's only logical that I'm going for a cautiously optimistic mode on a film made by a 150 million budget, scheduled in a precarious time under the gloom of the strike, and has one of the more difficult materials in comicdom when it's lifted for movie production.

I hope Cap will be out in 2009. I'm keen to this movie than Thor.