The Amazing Spider-Man 2 How should the Goblin look???

[Rorschach2012]

That's pretty awesome dude

 

[fangz]

My guess is harry will be the goblin, Norman will be dead. Then harry will use his father's head as the mask. That would be siiiccck and twisted, It kinda make sense given the rumors of a replica Chris Cooper/Norman Osborn's head hanging in the Goblin Chamber. Think about it, Harry is trying to honor his father's legacy by mimicking him in a sick way, the facial mask is kinda messy but still very expressive, kinda like leatherface. It allows some facial expression, and all you have to do is paint it green.

wow. that is rad....

haha, that is really great. I would love to see look on everyone's face if they did this.... :

 

[fangz]

I think we're going to get more or less the antithesis of spider man. A guy in costume that recalls the goblin from the comics. I think I'll be happy no matter what the outcome. Power ranger suit or not, Defoe carried that role well

you know, my memory had twisted that movie up so bad I found out recently rewatching it.
yeah, Dafoe was absolutely great and I really didn't mind the suit once I stopped thinking about it.

I still think that better costume design, which in my mind means less armor, more makeup, and more plain old letting the actor act, would make for a stronger presence, but Goblin in Raimi's Spider-Man worked a lot better than I'd remembered all this time.

 

[Morbius]

I gave it a try actually.



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Bravo, this is seriously cool

 

[Alex_Spider]

That's pretty awesome dude

Bravo, this is seriously cool

Thanks. I realy hope we get a similar homage to the Alex Ross cover for a future poster. It's a very powerfull image.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

My guess is harry will be the goblin, Norman will be dead. Then harry will use his father's head as the mask. That would be siiiccck and twisted, It kinda make sense given the rumors of a replica Chris Cooper/Norman Osborn's head hanging in the Goblin Chamber. Think about it, Harry is trying to honor his father's legacy by mimicking him in a sick way, the facial mask is kinda messy but still very expressive, kinda like leatherface. It allows some facial expression, and all you have to do is paint it green.

That sounds awesome, sady won't happen as it's too dark.

 

[Morbius]

That sounds awesome, sady won't happen as it's too dark.

Here's my theory for the day - though it's subject to change, if my track record for changing my mind every five minutes is anything to go by...


- Norman dies, or at least appears to.
- Grief stricken Harry sees his father's head, in the form of a bust at Oscorp (this is the 'disembodied head' that CBM were talking about months ago)
- Norman was a fan of folklore and has a range of exotic masks in his office
- Perhaps Harry fits a mask on this bust and then the idea to dress up comes to him

 

[Vid Electricz]

I gave it a try actually.

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Ah yes, I've been anticipating the "Sins Past" storyline for some time now. I hope that we FINALLY get to see this classic story arc on the silver screen.

 

[Vid Electricz]

Here's my theory for the day - though it's subject to change, if my track record for changing my mind every five minutes is anything to go by...


- Norman dies, or at least appears to.
- Grief stricken Harry sees his father's head, in the form of a bust at Oscorp (this is the 'disembodied head' that CBM were talking about months ago)
- Norman was a fan of folklore and has a range of exotic masks in his office
- Perhaps Harry fits a mask on this bust and then the idea to dress up comes to him

These are interesting ideas and all that, but it seems that they are all missing the one central (and arguably, the most important) idea: What is Harry's, (or Norman's) motivation for hating Peter Parker and killing Gwen? We know that Harry and Peter are "old best buddies" or whatever. Are we expected to believe that by the end of TASM2, with all the other storylines and subplots, Harry/Norman also have been developed to the point of it being believable that they have some reason for wanting revenge on Peter, going so far as to kill his girlfriend? I don't think Gwen will die in TASM2- and if she does, it'll be rushed and anticlimactic.

So many seem in such a rush to get their fan favourite moments up on screen that they forget about a little thing called "story".

 

[JOE]

Agreed. ^ Gwen is confirmed for 3 films too isn't she?

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

I don't think she'll die either.

 

[Oscorp]

That sounds awesome, sady won't happen as it's too dark.

Fortunately, that won't happen because that's dark for the sake of trying too hard to be dark. That sounds like something with no thought behind it. I'd hate if that happens.

 

[Loki882]

Gwen appearing in three films doesn't automatically mean that she'll be ALIVE for all three. Uncle Ben and Norman appeared in all three Raimi films, despite both dying in the first one. Uncle Ben and Captain Stacy are appearing in TASM 2 despite being dead. Gwen could potentially be a hallucination, or a flashback in the third movie. They could even do what TW did with Jean Grey and make Gwen a physical manifestation of Peter's guilt.

 

[fangz]

Gwen appearing in three films doesn't automatically mean that she'll be ALIVE for all three. Uncle Ben and Norman appeared in all three Raimi films, despite both dying in the first one. Uncle Ben and Captain Stacy are appearing in TASM 2 despite being dead. Gwen could potentially be a hallucination, or a flashback in the third movie. They could even do what TW did with Jean Grey and make Gwen a physical manifestation of Peter's guilt.

yes, this is true.

To me, tho I don't think she'll die in this film, because I think you really need some animosity built up between Spidey and Goblin(s), whatever the case, for Gwen's murder to really mean what it should.

It would feel like a rip off to me if it's one of the Goblin's very initial acts of villainy. There's all kind of ways to do that, but given that there's only this movie to build up with, I can only see it coming off as a sort of accidental.
which in some ways, I can see carrying it's own particular weight.
But I would rather see her death be driven from this deep conflict between this villain and this hero, and have it unfold like a dramatic inevitability.

I'm ok now with them changing all kinds of details around her death, wasn't for a while, but now I totally expect and even want them to. But that one part of her death's character is important to however it's done I think.
That inevitability of it is a big part of why it cuts so deep and heavy with Peter, even more than his indirect involvement with the neck snap.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

doesn't gwen kind of have to die, you know, from a storytelling perspective?

peter starts the movie as an over-confident, happy-go-lucky spider-man, who has decided to have his cake and eat it too by still dating gwen. so, her dying is the character getting his comeuppance, right?

isn't her death meant to be what finally drives home "with great power comes great responsibility"?

seems like a creative cop out if she survives, and if they end on a cliff hanger then that's almost as bad, as we have to wait two years for closure.

ps. all the foreshadowing to her death in the first movie would be a bit redundant (should have saved it for tasm2) assuming she survives.

 

[Alex_Spider]

Here's a crappy attempt I threw together.




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[JOE]

He definitely needs a bag this time around instead of popping out of his glider.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Spider-man: Hey Gobby, are you actually wearing a purse?
GG: Wha? No! It's not a purse! This...this, is a satchel.
Spider-man: Kinda looks like a purse.
GG: No. I'd never...I told you...it's a satchel.
Spider-man: Whatever you say fancy pants.
GG: Oh come one. Indiana Jones wore one.
Spider-man: Awww. Don't cry. Your makeup is running...here, let me get you a tissue from your purse.
GG: Grrrrrrrr!!

 

[Loki882]

You also can't wait too long to kill Gwen because they're won't be enough time to develop MJ and her multifaceted relationship with Peter (and Gwen).

 

[JOE]

Forget MJ. The Webbiverse is about Gwen.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

He looks like he wants to give me a hug but he's afraid I might punch him if he tries it.

For the record, I wouldn't. You don't punch someone for giving hugsies! What's the matter with you?

 

[Loki882]

Forget MJ. The Webbiverse is about Gwen.

Except that it's not, since we know that MJ will appear at some point. She's too important not to.

 

[Spideyfan117]

doesn't gwen kind of have to die, you know, from a storytelling perspective?

peter starts the movie as an over-confident, happy-go-lucky spider-man, who has decided to have his cake and eat it too by still dating gwen. so, her dying is the character getting his comeuppance, right?

isn't her death meant to be what finally drives home "with great power comes great responsibility"?

seems like a creative cop out if she survives, and if they end on a cliff hanger then that's almost as bad, as we have to wait two years for closure.

ps. all the foreshadowing to her death in the first movie would be a bit redundant (should have saved it for tasm2) assuming she survives.

I suppose she could just have a close call. But that wouldn't be nearly as effective. People are forgetting that Electro COULD be the one who kills Gwen.

 

[sl500jazz]

doesn't gwen kind of have to die, you know, from a storytelling perspective?

peter starts the movie as an over-confident, happy-go-lucky spider-man, who has decided to have his cake and eat it too by still dating gwen. so, her dying is the character getting his comeuppance, right?

isn't her death meant to be what finally drives home "with great power comes great responsibility"?

seems like a creative cop out if she survives, and if they end on a cliff hanger then that's almost as bad, as we have to wait two years for closure.

ps. all the foreshadowing to her death in the first movie would be a bit redundant (should have saved it for tasm2) assuming she survives.

You also can't wait too long to kill Gwen because they're won't be enough time to develop MJ and her multifaceted relationship with Peter (and Gwen).

I really do think that Gwen will have a proper exit in TASM3. Killing her off in TASM2 would seem way too rushed and haphazard with everything else that they are doing in the film. Waiting until the next film gives them more time to develop Harry/Norman's motives and the Goblin persona as the main plot of the film (as opposed to a minor subplot), further develop Peter's complicated relationship with Harry, and introduce MJ and her relationships with the other characters (setting her up to be the female lead in TASM4) before Gwen bites the dust. That way TASM4 is free to explore Peter and MJ's friendship and how Peter handles Gwen's death.

With regards to all of the foreshadowing, I expect that to continue through TASM2 and also expect a death 'fakeout' for the fans (hence the bridge and the clothes from the comics). When/how she really dies will be a little more 'unexpected' than that. I believe that TASM2 will show Peter enjoying being the 'friendly neighborhood Spider-man' and (although its bound to have its ups and downs) will ultimately end on a positive note, TASM3 will start off good, but will end on a sour note with Gwen's death, and TASM4 will be an emotional roller coaster and will end on an optimistic/hopeful note possibly hinting at Peter's future with MJ.

Btw, I'm sure its been said before, but I can't help but think that Mysterio would make an incredible villain post 'death of Gwen Stacy'. They can pull all sorts of twisted illusions with Gwen or Uncle Ben ala Scarecrow from Batman Arkham Asylum. Peter having to confront his demons head-on.

 

[Morbius]

I'd like Gwen to die in TASM2. Have the second movie end on a total downer' an Empire Strikes Back. Spidey has forced their hand and lost against superior odds