The Dark Knight Rises How Would You Continue the Story from TDKR? (Spoilers)

[Nathan]

You know, it was nice that Nolan just wanted Batman to be a symbol and that any person could be Batman. But the truth is, not every person can be Batman. Not without the training and recourses. Blake is set up to fail.

 

[Greens]

Wayne Manor was turned into a boys home or an orphanage or whatever. Maybe Bruce gave Blake the coordinates to the Batcave because "hey this is where all my Batman **** is. keep an eye on it and make sure no one goes down there and ****s everything up for me."

Bruce had a connection with Blake. Maybe he just felt that Blake deserved to see where he originally operated as Batman.

Of course you have the moving platform and THE DARK KNIGHT RISES at the end but that's just what Nolan does.

 

[joker1524]

John blake enters the batcave and superman is there waiting for him " were forming a team"

 

[kvz5]

Everybody dies

Nah. Just the ones left in Gotham.

Bruce and Selina are busy having hot sex while Alfred's busy growing a tangerine orchard in Italy.

 

[Greens]

Nah. Just the ones left in Gotham.

Bruce and Selina are busy having hot sex while Alfred's busy growing a tangerine orchard in Italy.

This.

/thread

 

[shauner111]

You guys are jumping the gun. Like Greens says, "who says he becomes Batman right at that moment?". Bruce leading Blake to the batcave was so he can see that he has that option. Bruce doesnt know that Blake will definately take up the mantle right there. Maybe Blake looks at it as an option at first.

Maybe he trains for it. Maybe he goes out and does things his way first (Nightwing) and keeps failing. I bet it's quite some time before he actually becomes the new Batman.

People can be so narrow-minded, they see the ending, and to them it's "right then and there he's now BATMAN! No struggles nothing. I dont like it. He will never be successful". That's why it's called making a story out of it. That, within itself, can be the basis for Blakes story. Overcoming things, failing, getting things right, training, losing confidence and believing that he's not cut out for it, then conflicts arise and so does Blake until he becomes worthy of being Batman.

 

[Victarion]

Which is my biggest problem with the whole John Blake thing in the first place. What makes him any different than the fake Batman at the beginning of TDK? It's not like he's a cop anymore

1. He was in shape.

2. He was a cop; ergo he had to have some physical training.

3. He's got Batman's armor and gadgets. That stuff is way more resilient than hockeypads.



Now, as for the original question? On a sunny morning Alfred bursts into Bruce and Selina's bedroom and they're smiling. He's smiling. They all bounce around on the bed.

The End.

 

[shauner111]

Another thing is how do we know he doesn't leave at some point before he starts fighting crime, to go training, either with Bruce or with another clan. Nobody knows, it's up to you to take the story in whatever direction. Anything is possible. If you see it like Robin wouldnt be able to handle it because he has no training, well...then the story goes..that he went to go get training! LOL it's simple. I don't get the haters.

Cops have training. Maybe he was in the army for a couple of years before all of this. He showed that he can handle himself, at least just a bit. Who knows what else he's capable of or what he could accomplish if he furthers those skills.

 

[DorneyDave]

Coleman Reese becomes overlord of Gotham.

 

[Bruce Malone]

People are taking it way to literally that john blake literally puts on a batman cowl as soon as that platform reaches the top. If blake is going to take over as gothams protector who is to say he won't spend years himself, training and improving his skills?

It was 8 years between super villains in gotham the last time, blake probably has time to train.

I see blake spending a lot of time researching bruce's motivations and studying his methods and finding a way to blend them to his own style.

 

[The Batman]

Bruce/Selina have a long term relationship, more physical and based off flirtatious lines instead of emotional or long lasting romance. They eventually part ways after a while.

Blake becomes either Robin or Nightwing after receiving training from Bruce at some point, or a nolanized version of Richard Dragon.

Gordon aids the new Robin/Nightwing. Blake falls in love with Gordon's grown up daughter, a GCPD data analyst.

Riddler, Penguin, Black Mask, and Deadshot are some of the enemies Blake fights. Rupert Thorne, a councilman threatens to cause a resurgence in mob dominance.

Alfred runs the boys home.

Lucius also aids Blake, having control of Wayne Enterprises with Fredricks as CEO. He manages to prove that Wayne's money loss was fraud.

 

[Laderlappen]

Blake doesnt become Batman, he becomes something else. Bruce and Selina has left Gotham for good.

 

[shauner111]

Alfreds Butler. I enjoyed the first part very much, it started out eerily similar to the story im cooking up, but when it got to the fake Joker, Quinn, etc i didnt like it. The last half is not my cup of tea, but hey it's your story right?

I like a lot of the first post though, with his struggles, where Gotham is at, Gordon, Barbara, the Nightwing-esque suit, not feeling worthy of being Batman, then the new suit. I love that and it's all in the story im doing too, but a different order, etc. The villains im using are different and it goes into a new direction. But yeah, just my 2 cents.

 

[DACrowe]

John Blake becomes Batman and struggles in a major city that has to rebuild from one of the worst disasters (man made at that) in human history. There is a mass exodus of Gotham and the city becomes a shadow of its former self. Still, thanks to the financial industry toughing it out the city does not become a Detroit and with a cleaner and more dedicated set of institutions from those who have found renewed purpose after seeing the face of collapse, the city is stronger. Fortunately he has the assistance of Lucius Fox who appoints him to an important role in the Wayne Foundation which allows him easy access to Wayne Manor and the Southeast corner. With Fox and Gordon's help, JGL slowly becomes the hero Gotham deserves. That is until Blake finds a card with a smiling face at a crime scene....

Bruce and Selina, against all odds, live a happier life in retirement and become some form of philanthropists with the money they have both stowed away in Swiss banks from years earlier. Bruce finds out an old nemesis is back. What does he do? What can he do? I do not know.

 

[dark_b]

i think the point of the ending was that Bruce is now free. he can go to bad even if criminals run around because he knows that there are good people that will do good. even if Joker escapes.

i think there is and should be only one reason for Bruce to come back. something happens and Robin becomes a villain. Bruce finds out and knows that its his fault. i think Hunter made a good post about Robin as the villain

 

[shauner111]

Joker almost turned Batman into something that he's not, Batman almost killed Joker a couple of times. It's interesting to think what he would do to Robin to get him to break. He is a "hothead" after all, he could very well end up losing it at some point. I can only see Joker doing this type of thing.

 

[CConn]

The only issue with an Arkham City thing is the sequel would be bloody similar to TDKR. Either Bruce returns to sort the City out again or Blake's Batman has to clean it up.

I'd keep it small scale and intimate. Pyg is a great idea as is La Flamingo. I'd save Strange as an Easter Egg. I have something I'm working on. Will post it eventually.

Very mob-based. Good stuff though.

Eh, but even in Morrison's stories with Pyg and Flamingo, it all eventually progressed to the point of an all out war in Gotham - again, similar to TDKR.

I think no matter what you'll do, there will be similarities to TDKR. It then just becomes a matter of presenting the story in a different way than what's already been done by Nolan.

The main reason why I so heavily rely on Arkham Asylum/City too is WB seems extremely enamored with that video game series, and I'd be surprised if they wouldn't want it to influence the next trilogy rather heavily.

Not to mention, outside of that, and Morrison's Batman run - which I am integrating in as well - there's not many more "definitive" Batman stories to tell. Hush isn't the type of story that could stand on its own, you need some set up before delving into stories like The Killing Joke or Death in the Family/Under The Hood, etc.

 

[DACrowe]

Joker did break Batman a bit. He didn't kill the Joker himself, because he couldn't ever give the clown that satisfaction. But Nolan's Batman right after was forced to kill Harvey Dent, even if not by choice, to save Jim Gordon's son. He does break his rule in the end to save Gordon's family, even if it means the breaking of his rule and the death of a former-friend he feels partially responsible for. He also feels responsible for putting Gordon in this position "to act," and had to save the man's child. But it certainly ends with him as morally gray.

And while he still vetoes guns and killing when he first teams up with Catwoman, he also isn't too upset when she blows away Bane. And he then again uses guns on the Bat to stop Talia's truck no matter the cost....which was the lives of the driver and Talia herself. He certainly has become more pragmatic by the end of the trilogy. However, it is understandable considering a nuclear bomb was in that truck set to go off and he had to stop it from killing 12 million people, no matter what.

And Blake also killed in self-defense in TDKR. Both Nolan's Batman and Robin have morally more complex positions than they do in the comics. I actually like that.

 

[shauner111]

Arkham City, Batman Beyond, these are concepts that they can really benefit from on the big screen. The tone of Arkham is such a win for the audience and WB, it really is the best of both worlds. By that i mean realism and fantasy..it just SCREAMS Gotham City and Batman.

Beyonds concept is just original and never been done before. That's what they need to keep striving for, and it's just too damn bad they wont move forward with a Robin Blake series. The way TDKR ends, you can easily do something with Beyond...and Blackgates prisoners & most likely Arkhams patients have been let loose.

They should really do something with this. But they're so damn money hungry that they'll move forward with Justice League and reboot Bruce Waynes Batman instead of letting it breathe. They need to realize that the real Batman (Bruce) will always find a way to the big screen. No matter what decade it is. They can afford to be patient.

Is it money hungry to try to keep Nolans story going? Only if you repeat stories, or by re-casting the major characters, bringing Bruce back as Batman for instance. That would cause a major uproar. But continuing the story which was left open-ended for the few characters who were left in Gotham? THAT would be their way into a new set of movies that make BIG money, keeping it fresh with new stories, new villains.

How would i continue the story? Ive posted quite a few scenarios. But one person (dont remember if it was this or another thread) had Robin seeing a joker card at a crime scene..that's pretty friggin intense. A scene like that would give me goosebumps. I can just see JGL's face turning white like he's seen a ghost. If he wasn't sure of himself being Batman, that would wake him up for good.

In a graphic novel u would be able to bring Heaths Joker back into the fold, but on film a cool thing after a scene like this would be to just bring Harley Quinn to do Jokers work. He would still be locked away, and he can be the mastermind behind a bunch of new crimes. Imagine a Mr Freeze film where his wife Nora is in a coma and guess who's the nurse? Harley. Who's pulling the strings and holding something against Freeze? Joker. Freeze is such a sympathetic villain that it could work.

My point? Freeze works with a futuristic Beyond. and everything else works so damn well with "Arkham". Not just them but Penguin and Riddler and others. Just play the video game and u can see a lot of bad interpretations but also a lot of good ones. But the idea is fantastic and so is the style.

Do it, Warner Brothers.

 

[Superman Lives]

I keep trying to imagine Joseph Gordon Levitt in the Bat suit, and I can't stop from laughing. He's so wrong for Batman.

 

[shauner111]

I keep trying to imagine Joseph Gordon Levitt in the Bat suit, and I can't stop from laughing. He's so wrong for Batman.

I think he would be just fine under the right suit. The suit would have to be a departure from a lot of the suits that we're used to seeing. If it doesnt work, then it doesnt work..there's always Nightwing. I think he'd do fine personally.

 

[Superman Lives]

I just can't see him striking fear in the hearts of criminals. JGL isn't a tough dude.

Robin or Nightwing would work. I think that's what they were going for by making him so boyish and idealistic.

I'm not a fan of the character though. If they wanted a character to be Robin, they should have gone with one from the comics instead of trying to create someone new and introduce him in the last Bat film. My theory is Nolan just wanted Levitt and Cotillard in this film and shoehorned in these roles for them specifically.

 

[AnneFan]

Bruce and Selina are busy having hot sex while Alfred's busy growing a tangerine orchard in Italy.

This is sig worthy.

 

[shauner111]

I don't think so, i think they were written for this final version of Waynes story so it could not only bring things back to Ras and the League of Shadows, but so we can see a guy who has the option of being a future Gordon or a future Batman, someone to pass the symbol off to. Of course Nolan gravitated towards Marion and Joe cuz of Inception but i dont think it was shoehorned.

Im with ya on Nightwing no doubt. But i think it can lead into Batman. JGL just needs to bulk up and add a few more years and he could prove a lot of people wrong.

 

[pixiesvision]

Wayne Manor was turned into a boys home or an orphanage or whatever. Maybe Bruce gave Blake the coordinates to the Batcave because "hey this is where all my Batman **** is. keep an eye on it and make sure no one goes down there and ****s everything up for me."

Bruce had a connection with Blake. Maybe he just felt that Blake deserved to see where he originally operated as Batman.

Of course you have the moving platform and THE DARK KNIGHT RISES at the end but that's just what Nolan does.

I agree. People are taking the Blake finds cave, rises on a platform thing way too literally.