How would you incorporate the X-Men into the MCU?

[2kt09]

I feel like that would completely undercut the spirit of what the X-Men are supposed to represent. They are supposed to be allegorical depictions of minorities plight, however, I'd love to see something other than hate and be seen as cool to some living fringe lifestyles kind of like black culture being seen as "in" and constantly appropriated. Still they need to have that ever present danger of discrimination that all minorities feel otherwise it is a hollow interpretation.

The whole minorities thing work with characters that just look a certain way. With others it's really as simple as potential domestic terrorists living amongst us.

 

[Jh7058622]

The whole minorities thing work with characters that just look a certain way. With others it's really as simple as potential domestic terrorists living amongst us.

As Stan Lee himself pointed out not every "minority" looks "different" from the majority. He was a Jewish man that made the original 5 with the thought of that feeling of being different but no one sees it but once they do it can be something that effects your life drastically. Kind of like Mystique said on the subject "we shouldn't have to [conceal who we are]" just because we're visually passing as a straight white male/female.

Honestly I'm not seeing what your getting at at all. Your words just seem to strengthen my argument of why the minority angle is important.

 

[2kt09]

As Stan Lee himself pointed out not every "minority" looks "different" from the majority. He was a Jewish man that made the original 5 with the thought of that feeling of being different but no one sees it but once they do it can be something that effects your life drastically. Kind of like Mystique said on the subject "we shouldn't have to [conceal who we]" just because we're visually passing as a straight white male/female.

Honestly I'm not seeing what your getting at all your words seem to do is strengthen my argument of why the minority angle is important.

Anyone can be a domestic terrorist/mass killer. That's not a minority thing as it is a matter of living in legitimate fear of each other. And when mutants can't control those powers, it becomes akin to an outbreak that needs to be contained. It's discrimination based on what superhumans are capable of.

 

[Jh7058622]

Anyone can be a domestic terrorist/mass killer. That's not a minority thing as it is a matter of living in legitimate fear of each other. And when mutants can't control those powers, it becomes akin to an outbreak that needs to be contained. It's discrimination based on what superhumans are capable of.

It isn't the same because there is choice involved in a terrorist act. It's not the same as someone having a dormant X-gene activate and involuntarily harming someone.

You seem to spew out quite a bit of bigotry and stereotyping for an X-Men fan.

 

[Havok83]

I feel like that would completely undercut the spirit of what the X-Men are supposed to represent. They are supposed to be allegorical depictions of minorities plight, however, I'd love to see something other than hate and be seen as cool to some living fringe lifestyles kind of like black culture being seen as "in" and constantly appropriated. Still they need to have that ever present danger of discrimination that all minorities feel otherwise it is a hollow interpretation.

It would be different and an interpretation we havent seen onscreen before. Its been done successfully in the comics in the two examples I mentioned. Besides it doesnt undercut anything if they eventually get there with the discrimination and hate.

 

[2kt09]

It isn't the same because there is choice involved in a terrorist act. It's not the same as someone having a dormant X-gene activate and involuntarily harming someone.

You seem to spew out quite a bit of bigotry and stereotyping for an X-Men fan.

That's why I mentioned the outbreak containment.
There is overall choice involved with what to do with these powers.

It's not bigotry nor stereotyping in saying these characters are intended as living weapons.

 

[Silvermoth]

But it would further tie the MCU together to the X Men

Exactly.

I feel like that would completely undercut the spirit of what the X-Men are supposed to represent. They are supposed to be allegorical depictions of minorities plight, however, I'd love to see something other than hate and be seen as cool to some living fringe lifestyles kind of like black culture being seen as "in" and constantly appropriated. Still they need to have that ever present danger of discrimination that all minorities feel otherwise it is a hollow interpretation.

That’s definitely an interesting idea.

I actually thought it might be ballsy if the first introduction to beast is him getting pulled over by a cop at night after coming home from the opera and the cop has a police brutality thing going on.

It could be both funny in the way we see a cop walk over to a car expecting a normal experience only to be greeted by a well spoken blue guy covered in fur and then instantly terrifying and emotive

 

[Detective Conan]

Before the events of Avengers 4; the X-gene used to be very rare but now (post-Avengers 4) has become a widespread recent phenomenon. Older mutants like Logan, Xavier, Magneto have already existed before as byproducts of an old era of mutation pre-Thanos where the X-gene was more of an anomaly; making it a thing that didn't occur in humans often so the existence of mutants was something that was easier to be kept confidential(only a few people knew of the existence of them like government operatives and maybe some family members that kept their secrets from public) so that's why we haven't heard of mutants until now because their population size prior to Avengers 4 wasn't big enough to be noticed so they fell under the radar. Xavier, Magneto, and Logan - even though they're mutants were able to 'blend' into normal society because they're normal-looking mutants but after Thanos is defeated the X-gene somehow becomes more widespread - to the point that some individuals affected by the X-gene start exhibiting more monstrous or freakish physical characteristics(i.e. Beast) and due to a lack of formal education or guidance on how to control and use their powers the more human-looking mutants like Jean and Cyclops have difficulty fitting into regular society thus facing fear and scorn - the recent widespread upsurge of the rate of humans being mutated by the X-gene prompts Xavier to start a special school to train mutants to control their abilities and use them for the greater good.