How would you incorporate the X-Men into the MCU?

Nope. I just don't buy after 20 MCU films, they would introduce mutants so late in their universe. Put them in another reality and a cross over with the Avengers would be more unique with an alternate universe hopping.

And I don't need an Avengers cameo in every X-Men film or have an Avenger play a supporting role in a X-Men film.

That being said, Foxmen verse needs to be over asap.
 
Nah dude they can make it work. I’m not down for a universe merger at all, doesn’t feel right

They’ve just been in the shadows
 
It would make more sense why we haven't heard about any mutants after 17 MCU films and 9 MCU TV shows. It also makes the X-Men a big more special if they are in a different universe yet still under the MCU. Instead of another property being introduced INA world where the likes of The Avengers and Guardians already exist
 
In the comics they were originally introduced in a world where mutants where a new public occurence otherwise until then under the radar, why couldn't it be the same in the MCU?

Agreed
 
I would incorporate the X-Men into the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the vain of Avengers taking on X-Men. In other words making it in the vain of a Batman vs Superman Dawn of Justice type scenario. However, if that doesn't work let's see you can just do a standalone well you can have them separate from the universe but still acknowledged by the Avengers and or all heroes of the universe.
 
I would incorporate the X-Men into the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the vain of Avengers taking on X-Men. In other words making it in the vain of a Batman vs Superman Dawn of Justice type scenario. However, if that doesn't work let's see you can just do a standalone well you can have them separate from the universe but still acknowledged by the Avengers and or all heroes of the universe.

Same vein, not vain. :o
Anyhoo, BvS should never be named as a reference. Or thinked of. Never. Ever. Ever ever ever.

Never.

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First is it really all connected? If so what Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has done with the Inhuman story leaves little room for any unique mutant X-Men social commentary. Because in the MCU not the comic books the Inhumans came first and the discrimination, the government and non governmental agents and vigilantes chasing the Inhumans down to kill or turn into weapons has already been done. The mutants would be just another group of 084s facing the same as the human results of Kree experimentation. About the only case to be made is that Inhumans can refuse terragenesis by maintaining a strict diet, assuming they know that they are Inhuman.

Given the press conferences by US President Ellis, in the MCU and news media coverage we should be at the point in the MCU where anyone with a power set emerging should be thought of as Inhuman first with nobody asking about an origin story. Best played in Civil War when Tony Stark just blew off Peter Parker’s offer of the story. All in the MCU expect to hear I woke up out of this black cocoon able to do this stuff.

Where were the mutants before now? I like the theory that there were few of them and they were on the index like Scorch in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 1. So why get them into the movies? Because RDJ and Chris Evans have to retire sooner or later so you have some new characters in reserve for that day. I can argue that Brie Larson works as Captain Marvel because you are not casting just for today, you are casting for 10 or 15 years from now. In that vein the famous X-Men characters could be 7 year old’s today ready to enter a school when Marvel/Disney pulls them out of reserve for phase X of the MCU. Why 7 now? In my proposal environmental damage from the Battle of New York instead of nuclear experimentation causes the explosion in the number of mutants.

To the question of Magneto. The Shoah due to the pride the Nazis had in recording what they did leaves us with no need to explain to the audience no matter how poorly educated what is going on. We can’t freeze someone else in ice and what does an extended life span has to do with his power set. I propose aliens. Even before the Battle of New York the Asgardians, Kree and Ravagers taking Peter Quill at the very least. And recently the Hulk got off planet. Somehow, perhaps the theory of relativity for a short time from the aliens holding Magneto can bring him in young enough for our story when he returns to an earth with others like him.
 
First is it really all connected? If so what Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has done with the Inhuman story leaves little room for any unique mutant X-Men social commentary. Because in the MCU not the comic books the Inhumans came first and the discrimination, the government and non governmental agents and vigilantes chasing the Inhumans down to kill or turn into weapons has already been done. The mutants would be just another group of 084s facing the same as the human results of Kree experimentation. About the only case to be made is that Inhumans can refuse terragenesis by maintaining a strict diet, assuming they know that they are Inhuman.

Given the press conferences by US President Ellis, in the MCU and news media coverage we should be at the point in the MCU where anyone with a power set emerging should be thought of as Inhuman first with nobody asking about an origin story. Best played in Civil War when Tony Stark just blew off Peter Parker’s offer of the story. All in the MCU expect to hear I woke up out of this black cocoon able to do this stuff.

Where were the mutants before now? I like the theory that there were few of them and they were on the index like Scorch in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 1. So why get them into the movies? Because RDJ and Chris Evans have to retire sooner or later so you have some new characters in reserve for that day. I can argue that Brie Larson works as Captain Marvel because you are not casting just for today, you are casting for 10 or 15 years from now. In that vein the famous X-Men characters could be 7 year old’s today ready to enter a school when Marvel/Disney pulls them out of reserve for phase X of the MCU. Why 7 now? In my proposal environmental damage from the Battle of New York instead of nuclear experimentation causes the explosion in the number of mutants.

To the question of Magneto. The Shoah due to the pride the Nazis had in recording what they did leaves us with no need to explain to the audience no matter how poorly educated what is going on. We can’t freeze someone else in ice and what does an extended life span has to do with his power set. I propose aliens. Even before the Battle of New York the Asgardians, Kree and Ravagers taking Peter Quill at the very least. And recently the Hulk got off planet. Somehow, perhaps the theory of relativity for a short time from the aliens holding Magneto can bring him in young enough for our story when he returns to an earth with others like him.
AoS probably shouldn't have tackled Inhumans like a country wide phenomenon
 
AoS probably shouldn't have tackled Inhumans like a country wide phenomenon

Actually it is worldwide as the terragin got into the food supply. Yo-Yo portrays a Colombian. As far as The Powers That Be knew there would never be a deal with another studio giving the mutant rights back and they had a story to tell. Could it have been just super soldiers, aliens and techno geniuses, along with unexplained phenomenon, sure. But now it is moot question. The studios allowed the TV side to run with Inhumans and Disney still says it's all connected. So far the biggest break in continuity being the Runaways referencing President Obama instead of President Ellis.

I still say it has been or should be a generation since the Battle Of New York by the time the Justice Department finishes any anti-trust vetting so you bring in mutants just emerging from that environmental event. Short of killing off Inhumanity and saying the environmental terragin is now so diluted that it stops effecting people we are still left with a world where any prejudice we place on mutants will be just an echo of what already is happening to Inhumans.
 
AoS probably shouldn't have tackled Inhumans like a country wide phenomenon

I think with X-Men the MCU will have to go further into the reality that the TV shows aren't connected. AoS shouldn't have done a lot of things.
 
I don't think any of the MCU tv shows should be canon tbh...
 
Agents of SHIELD is irrelevant where the films are concerned.
 
I don't think any of the MCU tv shows should be canon tbh...

I don't think they are. There's just a sort of noncompete agreement.

I think the Netflix ones had a shot for a while there. At least until the second half of Luke Cage.
 
They are easy to ignore. The films also ignore them big time. As far I'm concerned, they aren't different to the Tie in comics, books and videogames produced for the films.
 
Simple. Mutants were a rare occurrence, something the governments of the world were keeping an eye on. Something happens that suddenly triggers the latent mutant gene in people, giving rise to mutants in the MCU.
 
Simple. Mutants were a rare occurrence, something the governments of the world were keeping an eye on. Something happens that suddenly triggers the latent mutant gene in people, giving rise to mutants in the MCU.

amen. people overcomplicate things with all that parallel universe nonsense.
pretty sure feige would laugh that off.
 
It would make more sense why we haven't heard about any mutants after 17 MCU films and 9 MCU TV shows. It also makes the X-Men a big more special if they are in a different universe yet still under the MCU. Instead of another property being introduced INA world where the likes of The Avengers and Guardians already exist

Of course as the mortar of the MCU keeping all the separate bricks together I bet just as they once mentioned "that's inhuman" to start breaking in that ideal because of their faster schedule and the benefit of time that the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. will start dropping hints of mutants, not any specific character that show no sign of being Inhuman but enhanced anyway.
 
First is it really all connected? If so what Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has done with the Inhuman story leaves little room for any unique mutant X-Men social commentary. Because in the MCU not the comic books the Inhumans came first and the discrimination, the government and non governmental agents and vigilantes chasing the Inhumans down to kill or turn into weapons has already been done. The mutants would be just another group of 084s facing the same as the human results of Kree experimentation. About the only case to be made is that Inhumans can refuse terragenesis by maintaining a strict diet, assuming they know that they are Inhuman.

Given the press conferences by US President Ellis, in the MCU and news media coverage we should be at the point in the MCU where anyone with a power set emerging should be thought of as Inhuman first with nobody asking about an origin story. Best played in Civil War when Tony Stark just blew off Peter Parker’s offer of the story. All in the MCU expect to hear I woke up out of this black cocoon able to do this stuff.

Where were the mutants before now? I like the theory that there were few of them and they were on the index like Scorch in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 1. So why get them into the movies? Because RDJ and Chris Evans have to retire sooner or later so you have some new characters in reserve for that day. I can argue that Brie Larson works as Captain Marvel because you are not casting just for today, you are casting for 10 or 15 years from now. In that vein the famous X-Men characters could be 7 year old’s today ready to enter a school when Marvel/Disney pulls them out of reserve for phase X of the MCU. Why 7 now? In my proposal environmental damage from the Battle of New York instead of nuclear experimentation causes the explosion in the number of mutants.

To the question of Magneto. The Shoah due to the pride the Nazis had in recording what they did leaves us with no need to explain to the audience no matter how poorly educated what is going on. We can’t freeze someone else in ice and what does an extended life span has to do with his power set. I propose aliens. Even before the Battle of New York the Asgardians, Kree and Ravagers taking Peter Quill at the very least. And recently the Hulk got off planet. Somehow, perhaps the theory of relativity for a short time from the aliens holding Magneto can bring him in young enough for our story when he returns to an earth with others like him.


Look if you are a fan of the show this is hard to hear but... No one really cares what happens on AoS. They just don't. The show has never set the world on fire and it exists as an adjunct to the Marvel films, not the other way around. Marvel will likely move on with the mutants in the films without ever really addressing anything about the Inhumans in the movies for the foreseeable future. Accept it. Most that go to the films have not seen AoS. There is no obligation on Kevin Feige's part to cater to the audience of AoS.
 
I think they'll start incorporating the X-Men with one word...

Mutants.
 
Look if you are a fan of the show this is hard to hear but... No one really cares what happens on AoS. They just don't. The show has never set the world on fire and it exists as an adjunct to the Marvel films, not the other way around. Marvel will likely move on with the mutants in the films without ever really addressing anything about the Inhumans in the movies for the foreseeable future. Accept it. Most that go to the films have not seen AoS. There is no obligation on Kevin Feige's part to cater to the audience of AoS.

So what Disney says it's all connected, thus an obligation on Kevin Feige which he has not broken yet and until they break that bond and the MCU in total then when playing here I will keep it connected. Should they decided to to go Kelvin universe and reboot like Star Trek did at that time I will start posting differently
 
the thing about going with an origin story is...

you still have to explain how older mutants like Xavier, Magneto, Wolverine/Sabertooth,...ect already have existed for the this long unnoticed... an if Mutants goes back that far, why it is only recently that it's become so wide spread
 
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So what Disney says it's all connected, thus an obligation on Kevin Feige which he has not broken yet and until they break that bond and the MCU in total then when playing here I will keep it connected. Should they decided to to go Kelvin universe and reboot like Star Trek did at that time I will start posting differently

I can't even understand what you mean by this?

Look... The movies take precedence over everything else now. Accept that they have yet to give AoS any importance in connection to the films and it doesn't take a big leap to understand that the X-Men as a property are a lot more important (read:Worth A Hell Of A Lot More Money To Disney) to Marvel Studios than one network TV show that's never really been all that popular and another show that was stillborn in it's conception from get go (THE INHUMANS 8 parter).

They aren't going to even bother taking into account the stories from the ABC shows when it comes to shaping the MCU or figuring out how to place the X-Men into it. And honestly, how is this not obvious? How many seasons has AoS been limping along? And in that time has any plot, revelation or event from the show actually been referenced or actually affected the films? Do you really think the film division has ever once had a mandate "not to copy or contradict" the AoS show?

If the choice comes down to "contradict the continuity of AoS" or "Do X, Y, Z with our newly acquired and proven popular, well known and profitable X-Men franchise regardless of AoS" I can bet you a million Internet points what Kevin Feige and Marvel are gonna to do based on common sense.
 
I can't even understand what you mean by this?

Look... The movies take precedence over everything else now. Accept that they have yet to give AoS any importance in connection to the films and it doesn't take a big leap to understand that the X-Men as a property are a lot more important (read:Worth A Hell Of A Lot More Money To Disney) to Marvel Studios than one network TV show that's never really been all that popular and another show that was stillborn in it's conception from get go (THE INHUMANS 8 parter).

They aren't going to even bother taking into account the stories from the ABC shows when it comes to shaping the MCU or figuring out how to place the X-Men into it. And honestly, how is this not obvious? How many seasons has AoS been limping along? And in that time has any plot, revelation or event from the show actually been referenced or actually affected the films? Do you really think the film division has ever once had a mandate "not to copy or contradict" the AoS show?

If the choice comes down to "contradict the continuity of AoS" or "Do X, Y, Z with our newly acquired and proven popular, well known and profitable X-Men franchise regardless of AoS" I can bet you a million Internet points what Kevin Feige and Marvel are gonna to do based on common sense.

Basically they have yet to pull a JJ Abrams on the franchise and have not directly contradicted anything broadcast on ABC. with over a dozen opportunities to do so. Until they do what is broadcast I will treat as canon and my post will reflect that story, that Disney/Marvel has honored and not the story of another mediums writer told decades past.
 
Alright, I'm sorry. I've been trying not to say this because ik this idea is beaten out and hated. But why not just have them be New Inhumans? Perhaps like an unnatural breed of them that are shunned or at least resented by the actual Inhumans and called "Mutants" as a term of hatred amongst their kind for not being pure, the "X-Gene" could be an imperfection in the metamorphasis process that most Inhumans go through or something idunno. I just dont wanna see Inhumans go out the window when the Mutants come through because rn, thats what it looks like.

This way not only do we not have to explain why Mutants are just now being introduced. But it saves time, money and exposition.
 

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