How would you reboot Batman?

[Vaibow]

Then you obviously have very good taste.



When it comes to the car, I'm not all that picky. As long as it looks good and fits the tone of the film, I don't really care about the design itself.



Niiiiiice.



Color me interested. Who's the main baddie?

Well, ideally i'd like the joker, but with this series, i think best to leave him as he was! There would just be too many comparisons.

I'd have to use the riddler. The catch would be, the riddler is actually a warden. Batman thinks he is speaking to an inmate, when actually it's just a warden, pulling strings. Leading Bats on a merry goose chase, think silence of the lambs meets the usual suspects..

 

[Godzilla2014]

According to GothamAlleys's blog, Gotham Alleys, it was.

 

[socool]

Tim Burton's Batman took place in 1947...?

Color me amazed. That makes the movie a hell of a lot cooler all of a sudden.

It reminds me of how I always thought that the Bruce Timm Batman show took place in the 40s/50s because of the cars.

 

[hellblazer103]

in the case of robin, i and many others already recommended aaron paul as the joker , but he always gave me a bit of a " chris o'donnell robin " feel in breaking bad. only better.

 

[Boy Scout]

Which Robin should they go with? They'll most likely use Dick, since he's the most well-known, but if it were up to you, who would it be?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Just to satisfy Robin fans they should put Robin in the second one. It should go like this:

movie 1 - Batman
movie 2 - Batman/Robin
movie 3 - Batman/Nightwing

and use a couple of sci-fi/fantasy villains like Clayface and MrFreeze.

 

[Boy Scout]

Mr. Freeze all the way.

 

[KRIM]

According to GothamAlleys's blog, Gotham Alleys, it was.

Just took a read and it looks like it's a bit of both. I distinctly remembered many 80s elements in the movie, which made me question it in the first place. The anachronistic approach is right up Burton's alley, however.

 

[Spider-Kurt!]

Just to satisfy Robin fans they should put Robin in the second one. It should go like this:

movie 1 - Batman
movie 2 - Batman/Robin
movie 3 - Batman/Nightwing

and use a couple of sci-fi/fantasy villains like Clayface and MrFreeze.

This sounds right about perfect.

 

[Secret Fawful]

Which Robin should they go with? They'll most likely use Dick, since he's the most well-known, but if it were up to you, who would it be?

I'd make five movies. One about Dick, one about Jason, one about Tim, one about Stephanie and War Games (SHUT UP I LIKED IT), then one about Damien.

 

[Jordacar]

TV show. See my sig.

 

[Boy Scout]

I'd make five movies. One about Dick, one about Jason, one about Tim, one about Stephanie and War Games (SHUT UP I LIKED IT), then one about Damien.

Would the audience have a chance to connect with any of the Robins if they're gonna get replaced after just one movie? I mean, Dick can stick around, because he becomes Nightwing, but what about the rest of them?

 

[DaveMoral]

Would the audience have a chance to connect with any of the Robins if they're gonna get replaced after just one movie? I mean, Dick can stick around, because he becomes Nightwing, but what about the rest of them?

Theoretically Dick would obviously be around as Nightwing and Jason would loom over every Robin after. Stephanie is only relevant so far as Tim is concerned. The issue isn't connecting with each Robin, but how do you tell their stories and give them time to breathe while doing one film each? You really cant. And on top of that, Batman looks extra weird if every movie has a different Robin.

You have to do a trilogy about Grayson IMO. The only way to bring in other Robins is to approach Batman like Bond with a loose continuity so that age doesn't become a factor and casts can completely change. You have to give each one time to breathe.

Take the well known origin of Batman from Begins as a jumping off point, treat villains like the Joker as if they have been around a while and introduce Grayson and Robin in the first film similar to Begins. In the next film he's a full blown sidekick/partner and give them a crazy villain like Joker or someone else. In the third film you bring back Zucco and perhaps Black Mask(he would work in the first Robin film as the boss behind Zucco and the hit on the Flying Graysons) and do a story akin to Batman Year Three and BTAS Robin's Reckoning. Friction between Bruce and Dick leads to Dick leaving in a rage and abandoning his persona as Robin. He becomes Nightwing mid-film and declares his independence. From there you can do another film with Jason Todd and the complete absencd of Nightwing. So long as the plan leads to A Death In The Family you have something. I don't know how swift you do that though. It can't be repetitive. Jason might be two films. The first is how he comes under Batman's wing and the second is Death In The Family witb Joker of course and Ra's(that change in Under The Hood does wonders for that story). Then you do Tim Drake and A Lonely Place Of Dying. Nightwing is back in the mix. To change things up and be able to use a modified more protective costume for Tim's Robin you put him in the Red Robin outfit. Since you'd have to touch on some variation of Neal Adam's 90s redesign for both Grayson and Todd.

Skip Stephanie, because who cares?

 

[Boy Scout]

Theoretically Dick would obviously be around as Nightwing and Jason would loom over every Robin after.

Agreed.

Stephanie is only relevant so far as Tim is concerned.

I'd just make her Batgirl.

The issue isn't connecting with each Robin

Hmm? Shouldn't the audience connect with Robin on some level?

but how do you tell their stories and give them time to breathe while doing one film each? You really cant.

I would say Dick deserves three. Jason only needs two, if you aren't going to bring him back. Tim deserves at least two. Damian, I think, really only needs one, but like Tim, he has the potential to go on for a long time.

And on top of that, Batman looks extra weird if every movie has a different Robin.

Yeah, the last thing we need is the Robins becoming as interchangeable as the Batsuits.

You have to do a trilogy about Grayson IMO. The only way to bring in other Robins is to approach Batman like Bond with a loose continuity so that age doesn't become a factor and casts can completely change. You have to give each one time to breathe.

Take the well known origin of Batman from Begins as a jumping off point, treat villains like the Joker as if they have been around a while and introduce Grayson and Robin in the first film similar to Begins. In the next film he's a full blown sidekick/partner and give them a crazy villain like Joker or someone else. In the third film you bring back Zucco and perhaps Black Mask(he would work in the first Robin film as the boss behind Zucco and the hit on the Flying Graysons) and do a story akin to Batman Year Three and BTAS Robin's Reckoning. Friction between Bruce and Dick leads to Dick leaving in a rage and abandoning his persona as Robin. He becomes Nightwing mid-film and declares his independence.

From there you can do another film with Jason Todd and the complete absencd of Nightwing. So long as the plan leads to A Death In The Family you have something. I don't know how swift you do that though. It can't be repetitive. Jason might be two films. The first is how he comes under Batman's wing and the second is Death In The Family witb Joker of course and Ra's(that change in Under The Hood does wonders for that story). Then you do Tim Drake and A Lonely Place Of Dying. Nightwing is back in the mix.

Love it.

To change things up and be able to use a modified more protective costume for Tim's Robin you put him in the Red Robin outfit.

Why not just use the red and black outfit he sported for a while and officially make him Red Robin when Damian comes along?

Skip Stephanie, because who cares?

Yeah, she doesn't need to be in any films. But I wouldn't complain if she was.

 

[CConn]

According to GothamAlleys's blog, Gotham Alleys, it was.

No, according to GothamAlley's blog, B89 combines elements and timelines from both 1947 and 1989.

And the one actual date shown in B89 - Napier's mugshot - displays a date of 6/23/1989.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I'd make five movies. One about Dick,

My favorite!

No, according to GothamAlley's blog, B89 combines elements and timelines from both 1947 and 1989.

And the one actual date shown in B89 - Napier's mugshot - displays a date of 6/23/1989.

Gotta read that blog. So we know it is definitely set in 1989.

 

[DrCosmic]

I make Batman what he is in the comics. Kind of untouchable, like a James Bond or The Man with No Name, someone who doesn't have a character arc, because they're already awesome at everything and transendant in a way. Then I'd bring in Dick Grayson to have a character arc over the next trilogy, so to speak. Where he advances from uncostumed supporting character in his first film, to costumed apprenitce in the second to full fledged vigilante in the third.

I wouldn't try and squeeze 40 years of storytelling in two movies by trying to showcase multiple sidekicks and robins and such. There's no way that you can get the masses attached, and no reason to try and catch up with a comic book status quo that is rebooted so regularly.

 

[DaveMoral]

I make Batman what he is in the comics. Kind of untouchable, like a James Bond or The Man with No Name, someone who doesn't have a character arc, because they're already awesome at everything and transendant in a way. Then I'd bring in Dick Grayson to have a character arc over the next trilogy, so to speak. Where he advances from uncostumed supporting character in his first film, to costumed apprenitce in the second to full fledged vigilante in the third.

I wouldn't try and squeeze 40 years of storytelling in two movies by trying to showcase multiple sidekicks and robins and such. There's no way that you can get the masses attached, and no reason to try and catch up with a comic book status quo that is rebooted so regularly.

Approaching it more like Bond is a good way to do years of comic stories. Which would be an interesting approach to a superhero film franchise. Instead of inspiration trying adapting as fully as possible actual comic stories.

They can do the same with Superman or any other character. Why should that be relegated only to DTV animated films?

Bond is a kind of a serial film series, I see no reason that approach can't be taken with Batman, Superman, etc.

The idea of not having a character arc is interesting to me, because if you think about it there are a lot of heroes that are just like that from by gone ages. Flash Gordon never really had an arc, and yet he captured the imaginations of the audiences of the time. The Shadow etc. Is there something different about today that people need character arcs, or can we as a people accept a movie can be good without our protagonist being simply who he is?

On the other hand, Robin adds a new dimension to the character of Batman and forces him to take on a new role as mentor and surrogate/adoptive father. It raises questions for him as much as it does for Robin. So on the one hand, there's no reason he can't be the uber-prepared and kitted out Batman of the comics or Arkham City, but on the other he would now have the added weight of fatherhood and being a mentor/master.

Ultimately A Death In The Family and A Lonely Place of Dying are about Bruce/Batman and who he is, what are his limitations etc. Those stories, sadly, have not been touched by filmmakers and they would be the most character driven Batman stories that have ever been done. They are gut wrenching... and if at a later point they were to do Under the Red Hood in live action... it brings both those stories up again.

Knightfall would be an interesting story to fully, faithfully adapt... especially KnightQuest and KnightsEnd. I mean, could you imagine a full film devoted to depicting a crippled Bruce Wayne galavanting about the world in the disguise of an Englishman trying to save the only doctor that can help him, who he has also fallen in love with? Meanwhile, in Gotham, the new Batman in town is tarnishing the mantle of the Bat? I don't know about you, but whatever Nolan is going to be doing with TDKR KnightQuest would be a great deal more ballsy if done faithfully and done well.

Ra's al-Ghul, Talia and the League of Assassins are great Bond villain type characters too.

 

[Boy Scout]

i make batman what he is in the comics. Kind of untouchable, like a james bond or the man with no name, someone who doesn't have a character arc, because they're already awesome at everything and transendant in a way. Then i'd bring in dick grayson to have a character arc over the next trilogy, so to speak. Where he advances from uncostumed supporting character in his first film, to costumed apprenitce in the second to full fledged vigilante in the third.

I wouldn't try and squeeze 40 years of storytelling in two movies by trying to showcase multiple sidekicks and robins and such. There's no way that you can get the masses attached, and no reason to try and catch up with a comic book status quo that is rebooted so regularly.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I make Batman what he is in the comics. Kind of untouchable, like a James Bond or The Man with No Name, someone who doesn't have a character arc, because they're already awesome at everything and transendant in a way. Then I'd bring in Dick Grayson to have a character arc over the next trilogy, so to speak. Where he advances from uncostumed supporting character in his first film, to costumed apprenitce in the second to full fledged vigilante in the third.

I wouldn't try and squeeze 40 years of storytelling in two movies by trying to showcase multiple sidekicks and robins and such. There's no way that you can get the masses attached, and no reason to try and catch up with a comic book status quo that is rebooted so regularly.

I like a lot of your ideas except for no character arcs. I think that would just get kind of boring and dull after a while. I personally want to see characters grow, change, and progress over the course of a series.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

The chemical plant scene felt like it could be something out of some old movie. The music, the old style gangster look that Napier and his gang had, the kindof old fashioned looking equipment and machinery. The music also kindof reminded me of something out of the 60s Batman series aswell. Kindof campy and quirky, but not exactly in the same way.

 

[Rockstar]

Ridiculous. It's not 1947.

There was modern tech everywhere in those films.

Bruce was using CDs even.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Ridiculous. It's not 1947.

There was modern tech everywhere in those films.

Bruce was using CDs even.

That's from Batman Returns, not Batman.

 

[Spider - Man]

1. Would NOT do another origin film.
2. Would NOT have it headed up by someone who could not see the 'realistic' Batman fitting into a future Justice League film.
3. Have it be a stand-alone film BUT make it obvious it is heading towards a much bigger JL pic. HAve a cameo or 2 from other future JLAers.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

If I had to build up to a Justice League film, I'd be doing things more subtle than Marvel with cameos of every character. For example, the hints would be

For Wonder Woman- The lost Trident of Poseiden, the first King of Atlantis. But I'd mention it a few times. And the current King is in exile. (Crossing over with Aquaman)

In Aquaman- Obviously, he'd be King of Atlantis and would be in possession of the Trident. Rumors would surface that Poseiden retreated to an island with the other Gods. (Crossing over with Wonder Woman)

Green Lantern II- The Guardians or Sinestro would mention the destruction of Krypton and Abin Sur being unable to prevent the extinction of the Martian race. (Crossing over with Man of Steel and introducing Martian Manhunter).

He would also go to an Earth crime scene and meet Barry Allen for the first time. (introducing Flash).

Man of Steel- Jor-El would say he has sent a warning to the Guardians, requesting help. And when looking for suitable parents it would look at the Waynes'. (Crossing over with Green Lantern and Batman)

Batman (4?)- Lex Luthor would be mentioned as a business rival. (crossing over with Man of Steel)