The Official Costume Thread - - - - - - - - Part 17

[Caboose]

It's not a valid one, because it does not indicate any padding, it merely indicates that either (1) the suit is thin enough to show veins or (2) there is a fake vein. It provides no evidence whatsoever that there is also padding.

There isn't all that much definition really in the muscles except in the abs. Depending on the thickness of the suit itself, definition could certainly show through.

Again, though, it's odd that everywhere on the suit looks natural except for the abs. Why did they screw up the abs so much but get everything else to look so flawless?

You don't think his biceps, triceps and chest are very defined? Gonna have to disagree there. Read my previous post for my thoughts on the abs.

 

[Blue Sugar]

who cares if or how much it is padded when it looks great. and damn do those muscle definitions look great! love the veins too!

 

[Caboose]

who cares if or how much it is padded when it looks great. and damn do those muscle definitions look great! love the veins too!

I agree. It does look good. And that's the most important thing.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Again, though, it's odd that everywhere on the suit looks natural except for the abs. Why did they screw up the abs so much but get everything else to look so flawless?

Coming up with a suit like the one used in MOS is no easy task I imagine. At least some imperfection is to be expected. Consider this though. If the suit already looks this good in the production/filming stage (much unlike the new Captain America costume), think how great it will actually appear on film.

 

[camp Blood]

i wish he didnt have the muskel suit but it does look good so its cool

cavills natural build would have been fine and i am not one people that need to see every little sinew of his build under the suit

this was fine

none of them had the muskel tone and it was fine, but i also get where snyder was going , to be the first superman on screen to capture the comic book uber tights look

 

[ElDuderino]

You don't think his biceps, triceps and chest are very defined? Gonna have to disagree there.

Not to the point where it's obvious they're using padding. See below. That could easily just be his own body (other than the abs).

Spoiler

Read my previous post for my thoughts on the abs.

Which one?

 

[Caboose]

Not to the point where it's obvious they're using padding. See below. That could easily just be his own body (other than the abs).

I disagree. In terms of size, yes maybe, but not in terms of definition. Look at Chris Reeve's arms in the pics above. They're decent sized, but you can't see much definition and from watching videos of him training for the role, you can see he was pretty defined.

Which one?

The one were I said that I don't think they want to make them TOO defined, because maybe that'd look a little unrealistic. Don't know man, just spitballing here.

 

[ElDuderino]

I disagree. In terms of size, yes maybe, but not in terms of definition. Look at Chris Reeve's arms in the pics above. They're decent sized, but you can't see much definition and from watching videos of him training for the role, you can see he was pretty defined.

Reeve didn't look nearly as ripped as Cavill did in Immortals and that was a much smaller, less defined Cavill. The texture and fabric of the Reeve suit is completely different as well -- it doesn't show shadowing as well as the Cavill suit.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Look at Chris Reeve's arms in the pics above. They're decent sized, but you can't see much definition and from watching videos of him training for the role, you can see he was pretty defined.

I've seen videos of Reeve training for the role, and I don't think his physique was that well-defined, although I give him props for trying. Cavill's physique is in another league altogether though (assuming that he's still in Immortals shape or better).

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Reeve didn't look nearly as ripped as Cavill did in Immortals and that was a much smaller, less defined Cavill. The Reeve texture and fabric of the Reeve suit is completely different as well -- it doesn't show shadowing as well as the Cavill suit.

Agreed. Although, we've yet to see if Cavill has actually surpassed his goal physique in Immortals for MOS. He actually lost some definition subsequent to filming Immortals while filming another moved called A Cold Light of Day. My hope is that he put back on the bulk and definition while prepping for MOS though.

 

[ElDuderino]

Coming up with a suit like the one used in MOS is no easy task I imagine. At least some imperfection is to be expected. Consider this though. If the suit already looks this good in the production/filming stage (much unlike the new Captain America costume), think how great it will actually appear on film.

Agree 100%.

 

[Caboose]

Reeve didn't look nearly as ripped as Cavill did in Immortals and that was a much smaller, less defined Cavill. The texture and fabric of the Reeve suit is completely different as well -- it doesn't show shadowing as well as the Cavill suit.

Let's just agree to disagree at this point. The important thing is that Cavill looks good in the suit, no matter how much of it is really him.

 

[Micromind]

Cavill's natural built plus his training plus his Suit all contribute to his overall look as Superman.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Cavill's natural build plus his training plus his Suit all contribute to his overall look as Superman.

That about sums it up just right.

 

[gdw]

I'd have to disagree with you on that one. I don't personally feel that it looked fake, nor as forced and horrid as Routh's.

Minor quibbles aside, I can assure you that that shot of Cavill at Comic-Con was entirely accidental. His hair is just naturally curly, and the wind somehow managed to blow one of his hair strands down on his forehead. I can say this with full confidence now that we've seen him on set, and Snyder and Co. have definitely moved away from the s-curl.

This showcases EXACTLY why Snyder and co's decision with the hair was so utterly ******ed.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

That's what happens when you cave to the demands of insecure fanboys.

 

[Kurosawa]

That's what happens when you cave to the demands of insecure fanboys.

Yep. Everything about the suit-although it is well done-is fanservice to the shamed.

 

[Gamma_Powered_God]

I've seen videos of Reeve training for the role, and I don't think his physique was that well-defined, although I give him props for trying. Cavill's physique is in another league altogether though (assuming that he's still in Immortals shape or better).

Reeve did well with the short amount of time that David Prowse had to put some muscle on him. Reeve hit his physical peak size wise in Superman III. Routh did the best he could at the time training wise for SR, but he's added quite a bit of muscle in the years since then. Cavill added 25 pounds to the build that he has in Immortals. Yes the suit is molded to highlight all of the muscle groups, but most of the mass under the padding is him.

 

[TheDragonator]

Yep. Everything about the suit-although it is well done-is fanservice to the shamed.

Could it have something to do with the lawsuit, though? Like how they own the classic S-Shield, could they end up getting the trunks in 2013, too? It would certainly explain the sudden costume changes the character's had recently.

 

[LORD SPARTAN]

I'm still not convinced. I demand more pictures of shirtless Supermen to make up my opinion. Please?

If I have to prove this, here's a cool battle of Superman vs Doomsday
Or Superboy Prime here, here and here.

But my real point about using a more decisive belt was, to make this armor like suit look easier to put on and off. I still find the product cool.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

Could it have something to do with the lawsuit, though? Like how they own the classic S-Shield, could they end up getting the trunks in 2013, too? It would certainly explain the sudden costume changes the character's had recently.

I think most of the popular versions of the shield (especially the DC merchandising one) are owned by WB/DC, not S & S's heirs.

 

[ElDuderino]

Could it have something to do with the lawsuit, though? Like how they own the classic S-Shield, could they end up getting the trunks in 2013, too? It would certainly explain the sudden costume changes the character's had recently.

No, it has to do with them wanting to design a better suit.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

Reeve did well with the short amount of time that David Prowse had to put some muscle on him. Reeve hit his physical peak size wise in Superman III. Routh did the best he could at the time training wise for SR, but he's added quite a bit of muscle in the years since then. Cavill added 25 pounds to the build that he has in Immortals. Yes the suit is molded to highlight all of the muscle groups, but most of the mass under the padding is him.

Personally I don't care if a certain amount of musculature is molded in. Short of painting his skin blue, that is the only practical way to make it look close to how Superman is drawn in the comics. I'm sure there will be a least one shirtless scene, to make people realize that Henry actually did get ripped for this movie. With CR they went more for bulk than Steve Reeves muscle definition, but for the time he still looked pretty impressive.

 

[I Am The Knight]

No, it has to do with them wanting to design a better suit.

lol. I like this suit just fine (the Cavill one, not the hideous armor from the comics) but there is nothing better than the classic Superman suit. It is the quintessential superhero costume.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

No, it has to do with them wanting to design a better suit.

That's subjective. My avatar proves (and yes this is also subjective) that, and before you throw your toys out of the crib, I really like the redesign now that the details have been revealed. If you are absolutely set against having trunks, then what they have come up with is commendable or even better as you say. If however you think trunks could have worked, it's an acceptable redesign in the context of this movie, but it's certainly not better, just different.