I think they're cramming too much in this one.........

[huskerwebhead]

Wow, bitter....party of one. Your table is ready. I can see why you chose the name Vile.

Sandman is in the movie because Raimi likes him. He kills Uncle Ben because Sandman is a lame character and needs something to do. It could possibly be a red herring and if so is even MORE lame than Sandman killing Uncle Ben.

I'm betting it is a "red herring." And if that's the case, I think it serves as a pretty good plot point. Depending on how the story plays out.

Venom will get his 15 minutes of screentime because the execs say he's popular with kids. Wow does this sound familiar...

And don't forget that he's popular with the fans as well. Like it or not, he's probably the most popular Spider-Man bad guy. There have been more threads than one could count on getting Venom into a movie. Yes, it's going to make a nice action figure...but the fans wanted to see him just the same.

Harry is getting the shaft completely. He won't be the second Green Goblin. But yes, he'll fly around on a glider and throw pumpkin bombs. But he wont be the goblin - no, instead he's dressed like a paintballing ninja. Why? Beats me, Sam hasnt explained that yet.

I would have preferred he was in a goblin costume myself, but what I have seen from the newest trailer gives me hope. I am actually starting to like what I am seeing from Harry.

Gwen is in the movie for a love triangle that really shouldnt exist at all considering Pete *****ed and moaned for 2 movies...now with a neato black suit he's suddenly got eyes for a blonde? Not to mention, MJ gets treated like crap and...what? Just gives up? After all HER bull**** in the last two movies? Come on, Raimi...yer stretching here.

Here is where it shows you have no idea what you are talking about. The symbiote influences Pete. Makes him darker...borderline bad guy. He then says/does things he would normally never do. It's pretty obvious from the trailers. This was even in the cartoon. You'd think you would know this already.

The Battle Royal will be a comic fan's wetdream - indeed, fanboys everywhere will cream their pants. 4 and half seconds after that they'll realize that special effects dominated the story in this film and their favorite WTFPWN villain Venom only got 12 minutes of screen time.

...And Harry will be the comic relief dressed as SnakeEyes.

Just what my crystal ball is showing....

You seem to have something against Comic Fans. I hope it'll be a great battle at the end. Worthy of Venom vs. Spidey. I'd expect nothing less. And you don't know that this is the end of Venom. It's perfectly believable that this is just a setup for Spidey 4...with Venom at the front. You should check your "crystal ball," it may have bad reception.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

It could be great. When you cram a movie full of action, characters and subplots; one of two things can happen. It can become a mess, or it can become the greatest most action packed, groundbreaking Spider-Man ever. So, yes it is a risk to use all this in one film, but risks can pay off. Just have to wait until May.

 

[WorthyStevens]

If Spidey 3 is has the same length or more than the first two (which clocked in at 121 and 127 minutes if I'm not mistaken), I'll have no worries.

 

[Cinemaman]

I say no 3 hour movie! 140 mins is enough

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Nah. Movie tickets are too expensive these days. I want a really long movie, intermission et al.

 

[DOG LIPS]

I hope the movie is 5 hours, 22 minutes.



If not the theater version, the Director's Cut on DVD will do.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Longest movie ever.

Hopefully.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

this movie WOINT be crammed, im sure about tht, i hope this movie is 2 and half hours long or 3 hours long.

 

[chaseter]

This movie will be 2 hours and 15 minutes tops.

 

[PeterFan87]

That trailer really did nothing for me, and this is coming from a lifelong spidey fan. I mean........Ok, let's start with Sam Raimi obviously caving in by including Venom as a villain.

Where is he? Why was Eddie Brock in the trailer for 5 seconds? Why does Harry not wear a mask like his father and why in God's name are they MAKING SANDMAN REALLY BE BEN's KILLER!

Some of the lines from the trailer made no sense either. I think they're trying to do too much here. Why include Gwen?

That is really the only thing that bugs me about the new trailer. Other than that.. it kicked my effing ass. I'm going to optimistic though and wait and see how that is worked into the film before I get all pissy.

 

[spidermania23]

Venom is fine in Spiderman 3, he's being set up for SP4 anyway. So we get to see him early at least.

 

[Vile]

Wow, bitter....party of one. Your table is ready. I can see why you chose the name Vile.

We aim to please. =)

 

[3 Dev Adam]

This movie will be 2 hours and 15 minutes tops.

Thanks you very much, Mr. Criswell.

 

[The Kid]

I predict it'll be very cheesy and silly movie with little relation to its source, a quickly paced bunch of action scenes connected by a paper thin story, and it'll make a trillion dollars.

Will it become as overrated as spider-man 2? I don't know, but I guess so judging by the hype recieved by a few seconds of venom.

 

[Reikowolf]

you can never cram too much

it's just like sex
lol I kid, I kid

 

[Reikowolf]

I predict it'll be very cheesy and silly movie with little relation to its source, a quickly paced bunch of action scenes connected by a paper thin story, and it'll make a trillion dollars.

Will it become as overrated as spider-man 2? I don't know, but I guess so judging by the hype recieved by a few seconds of venom.

to its source?
its source is a comic book.. you are aware that in the comic, the sandman tries to bully a highschool principle into giving him a diploma right? (ASM #4)


spider-man was overrated
spider-man 2 was actually a good piece of "popcorn" cinema.

I still loved them both

 

[The Joker]

to its source?
its source is a comic book.. you are aware that in the comic, the sandman tries to bully a highschool principle into giving him a diploma right? (ASM #4)

And got sucked into a vacuum cleaner in that same issue. ASM #4 is a hoot.

 

[The Kid]

to its source?
its source is a comic book.. you are aware that in the comic, the sandman tries to bully a highschool principle into giving him a diploma right? (ASM #4)


spider-man was overrated
spider-man 2 was actually a good piece of "popcorn" cinema.

I still loved them both

I guess I have different taste?

Yeah, little relation to its source, as in perhaps it's nearing "INO" territory. I won't even dare say it's a SMINO but hey if it is, it is.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

And got sucked into a vacuum cleaner in that same issue.

I hope they use that scene on the movie. t:

 

[HerosOnFilm]

Probably won't be crammed, because we won't be seeing a whole lot of Venom is my guess. Someone said 10-15 minute battle royale at the end...I'd agree...if that long.

Most of the movie will be Pete's spiral into darkness, with the suit changing his personality, making him more violent etc. He will take his aggression out on Sandman, eventually when he tries to hurt MJ, he will realize the suit is corrupting him, and will realize the deafening sounds of the church bells (great ode to the comics) will force the symbiote off.

So, amongst the long story, introducing Brock, Gwen, Captain Stacy,the decent into darkness, fighting Sandman, dealing with Harry...we will then have Venom's origin. This will happen pretty late in the movie. As someone pointed out to me, in the trailer we see Venom's webbing, and a beaten, torn costumed Spidey, so they must meet and battle....but the battle most certainly will not be long.

P.S. Does Spidey's mask ALWAYS have to be completely tore up??? I know they think we always need to see the actor's eyes and expression, but sheesH!!

 

[Number17]

I freaked out at first when I saw Dok Ock be the second villian in Spider-Man 2. The movie, however, turned out to be a gem. I loved it and not only with the first Spider-Man, it made me love him as a director.

He's been a great director all the way back to Evil Dead and yet people still doubt him. Making a movie based on Comic Book, Book, Video Game or whatever other source material is going to be hard. Face the facts that not everyone is going to be satisfied and even some are going to be downright pissed.

Its a moronic mindset sometimes when the movie is great, but people can't build themselves right past source material. If this was a true adaptation of Venom then I wouldn't want to see the movie. In fact I don't even think Venom deserves that much screen time.

Too many people are expecting this grand, long, incredibly drawn out conflict between Spider-Man and Venom, but face facts people. Venom isn't really that a complex of a character. In fact it took after Brock became Venom for writers to smooth the character out and make him more complex. Venom does not deserve a whole movie. Brock is enough of an evil personality that until the end he transforms into the very thing that was inside of him. It is brought out and Spider-Man has to stop it.

This whole movie is based around revenge.

-Revenge on Sandman for the death of Uncle Ben
-Revenge on Parker for the death of Osborne
-Revenge on Parker for whatever issues Brock has.

I think this film will be great and I am crossing my fingers that it does extreamly well. People also worry about killing of Venom because it will be too much trouble to kill off that character. How can you kill of Venom without killing the person? Brock is too much of a complex character.

Spoiler

I think that Venom does die, but not in the way everyone thinks. The symbiote suit actually dies off leaving Brock pondering something when Peter, I assume, says something with power and responsiblity.

Stop complaining. It's annoying.

 

[Vile]

I predict it'll be very cheesy and silly movie with little relation to its source, a quickly paced bunch of action scenes connected by a paper thin story, and it'll make a trillion dollars.

Will it become as overrated as spider-man 2? I don't know, but I guess so judging by the hype recieved by a few seconds of venom.

Thats what I've been trying to say and lo and behold I get jumped...

I still dont understand what my screen name had anything to do with it!

=)

 

[War Party]

I predict it'll be very cheesy and silly movie with little relation to its source, a quickly paced bunch of action scenes connected by a paper thin story, and it'll make a trillion dollars.

Will it become as overrated as spider-man 2? I don't know, but I guess so judging by the hype recieved by a few seconds of venom.

Little relation to the source is exactly what I want. People who have read the comics already saw it in the book. And I know some you want to see that same stuff in the films, but don't you just want to see something different? A new story or something? Well at least that's how I feel. But hey, if that's how you feel, all power to you. Your not the only one.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Let's not forget that Marijuana also gets kidnapped by the villain on this one. Again.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Probably won't be crammed, because we won't be seeing a whole lot of Venom is my guess. Someone said 10-15 minute battle royale at the end...I'd agree...if that long.

Most of the movie will be Pete's spiral into darkness, with the suit changing his personality, making him more violent etc. He will take his aggression out on Sandman, eventually when he tries to hurt MJ, he will realize the suit is corrupting him, and will realize the deafening sounds of the church bells (great ode to the comics) will force the symbiote off.

So, amongst the long story, introducing Brock, Gwen, Captain Stacy,the decent into darkness, fighting Sandman, dealing with Harry...we will then have Venom's origin. This will happen pretty late in the movie. As someone pointed out to me, in the trailer we see Venom's webbing, and a beaten, torn costumed Spidey, so they must meet and battle....but the battle most certainly will not be long.

P.S. Does Spidey's mask ALWAYS have to be completely tore up??? I know they think we always need to see the actor's eyes and expression, but sheesH!!

I know what you're saying, but believe it or not, that was one of the main complaints from the fans and non-fans of Spider-Man. They felt it was necessary to see his face, the emotion, and how him having his mask on is a clear indication that it's not Tobey in the suit acting out the scenes.

So in sense it was to shut them up.