I was called a racist today.

[Matrixo]

Problem is, they're right. They're within their rights to talk as loudly as they want as long as it's not at some insane hour.

They were right and it seems like you neighbors were cool, but the brother was being a *****e.

Geo, what I would do, next time you have a get together or what have you and you see that guy there, get your stereo ready.

 

[Dark Victory]

I know exactly how you feel even though I just movedt:

But anyway...way there was this big mexican family that lived above me and they always had at least one relative staying over every night. They always had the TV and CD player on high and were always screaming at each other. One night I'm studying for my finals and of course they happen to be watching ALONE IN THE DARK!!!!!(worst movie of all time) on high and I try to be polite asking them to turn it down and one of their friends who is staying over is yelling in my face saying that I am a racist and then telling the father of the family I called him a wet****. When we resolved the whole "argument", it was 12:30 and I had only studied for about 10 minutes and was too tired to continue and ended up getting a C on the test.

 

[knowsbleed]

I know exactly how you feel even though I just movedt:

But anyway...way there was this big mexican family that lived above me and they always had at least one relative staying over every night. They always had the TV and CD player on high and were always screaming at each other. One night I'm studying for my finals and of course they happen to be watching ALONE IN THE DARK!!!!!(worst movie of all time) on high and I try to be polite asking them to turn it down and one of their friends who is staying over is yelling in my face saying that I am a racist and then telling the father of the family I called him a wet****. When we resolved the whole "argument", it was 12:30 and I had only studied for about 10 minutes and was too tired to continue and ended up getting a C on the test.

Was it an English test? Because if it was, I can understand why.

 

[Darthphere]

Am I wrong? My own father-in-law for example, who is Dominican, is rather misogynistic, actually and it's very much a cultural thing rather than just a generational thing. Several of my wife's cousins, who are my age or even much younger, are also very much this way. I grew up around a lot of Mexican kids and many of them also had this issue. I'm not saying all Latino men are misogynists at all, because they are not. But it is a very real part of many Latino cultures.

jag

No, you're completely right, though I would wager it's a lot more regional than anything.

 

[hammy]

That's pretty messed-up, but I gotta tell ya, I think you are outnumbered there- next time, call the cops- let them argue with them

I agree. That's what they're there for. And no, they can't just make all kinds of noise at any hour, even during the day. They have no right to disturb the peace. But as for ignoring your girlfriend, I do agree with jag. It's kind of a cultural thing with them. Some are very misogynistic, and culturally, they tend to be very loud and enjoy large gatherings. Also, many are *****es.

 

[Darthphere]

I agree. That's what they're there for. And no, they can't just make all kinds of noise at any hour, even during the day. They have no right to disturb the peace. But as for ignoring your girlfriend, I do agree with jag. It's kind of a cultural thing with them. Some are very misogynistic, and culturally, they tend to be very loud and enjoy large gatherings. Also, many are *****es.

They weren't making all kinds of noise though, they were talking. Just like back in the day when you and your friends would hang out on the front porch, or the stoop shooting the breeze. This wasn't 3 AM or anything. They have a right to talk on their balcony if they want. As he noted, the walls are very thin. They weren't having a rave next door or anything.

Also, your point on hispanic men is somewhat perplexing to me.

 

[jaguarr]

No, you're completely right, though I would wager it's a lot more regional than anything.

I'd agree that the region can definitely play a part; subcultures within a culture, so to speak.

jag

 

[Darthphere]

I'd agree that the region can definitely play a part; subcultures within a culture, so to speak.

jag

I know this too well Jag, for I am one of them.

 

[jaguarr]

They weren't making all kinds of noise though, they were talking. Just like back in the day when you and your friends would hang out on the front porch, or the stoop shooting the breeze. This wasn't 3 AM or anything. They have a right to talk on their balcony if they want. As he noted, the walls are very thin. They weren't having a rave next door or anything.

Also, your point on hispanic men is somewhat perplexing to me.

They TOTALLY should have had a rave and everyone could have dropped some X and had a big multi-cultural love-fest.

jag

 

[jaguarr]

I know this too well Jag, for I am one of them.

You're a subculture within a culture?

jag

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Problem is, they're right. They're within their rights to talk as loudly as they want as long as it's not at some insane hour.

Indeed. They abuse that right,this is why some people call the police and have them take the people away or tell them to stop. Nothing like the Government telling you what to do.

 

[JP]

...So you got offended even though you understand he wasn't trying to be offensive, just given an opinion based on experience?

All I said was "Easy now..."

 

[Darthphere]

They TOTALLY should have had a rave and everyone could have dropped some X and had a big multi-cultural love-fest.

jag

Hell yeahz!11

You're a subculture within a culture?

jag

Somewhat, I'm an American born, Hispanic male. I am a confused individual.

Indeed. They abuse that right,this is why some people call the police and have them take the people away or tell them to stop. Nothing like the Government telling you what to do.

I really don't see anything in Geo's write up that they did wrong. The only thing to blame here is the crappy walls in his apartment.

 

[hammy]

They weren't making all kinds of noise though, they were talking. Just like back in the day when you and your friends would hang out on the front porch, or the stoop shooting the breeze. This wasn't 3 AM or anything. They have a right to talk on their balcony if they want. As he noted, the walls are very thin. They weren't having a rave next door or anything.

Also, your point on hispanic men is somewhat perplexing to me.

He said they were talking and yelling loudly, and allowing the kids to scream. That's making a lot of noise. Most communities have noise ordinances, which I'm sure vary from location to location. But just making a ton of noise, even during the day, can constitute disturbing the peace. But more importantly, if your neighbors ask you nicely to tone it down a bit, and you decide to act like an ******* about it, make a spectacle of yourself, yell and curse, what does that say about you as a person? <----That is why you shouldn't be perplexed.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Problem is, they're right. They're within their rights to talk as loudly as they want as long as it's not at some insane hour.

They are within their right. But in a civilized society, when someone asks you to be a little more quiet because it's bothering them, the right thing to do would be to keep it down, not start a fight over it.

 

[hammy]

I really don't see anything in Geo's write up that they did wrong. The only thing to blame here is the crappy walls in his apartment.

Well see, this is the problem. You don't see what they did wrong. Apparently in your view, it's okay to make so much racket that you drive your neighbors crazy. And when said neighbors politely ask you to tone it down, just go ahead and curse and yell some more. That's why I say it's partly a cultural thing.

 

[Darthphere]

They are within their right. But in a civilized society, when someone asks you to be a little more quiet because it's bothering them, the right thing to do would be to keep it down, not start a fight over it.

Well of course I agree with that. Yet, you should've known that them getting angry like that was a possibility.

 

[Darthphere]

He said they were talking and yelling loudly, and allowing the kids to scream. That's making a lot of noise. Most communities have noise ordinances, which I'm sure vary from location to location. But just making a ton of noise, even during the day, can constitute disturbing the peace. But more importantly, if your neighbors ask you nicely to tone it down a bit, and you decide to act like an ******* about it, make a spectacle of yourself, yell and curse, what does that say about you as a person? <----That is why you shouldn't be perplexed.

You know what, I'll go ahead and straight out say it. While what Geo did was fine, and I agree with it, he had no right to tell them to quiet down. The brother's reaction was uncalled for of course, but it's something he should've been ready for.

And noise ordinances are a joke. And nowhere in the USA is their a noise ordinance against noise during the day. Nowhere. Power tools would be outlawed all over.

 

[jaguarr]

All I said was "Easy now..."

Look, don't make this awkward.

jag

 

[StrainedEyes]

They were right and it seems like you neighbors were cool, but the brother was being a *****e.

Further thought into the incident has revealed that my neighbor is not cool.

Before, I figured it could just be a family thing, you know? If your brother is in an argument, you typically stand by them. So I wrote it off.

However, after my girlfriend asked them to be quieter, and while the 2 other people were leaving, my neighbor got into his car and started honking the horn, honk after honk, for a good 30-40 seconds. We thought it was a car alarm but I looked out the window and our neighbor was sitting in his passenger seat, honking his horn. He was pointing towards his apartment and smiling, we assumed it was some weird thing they were doing.

However, looking back on it, we are pretty sure they were just trying to draw us out of our apartment. I can't think of a single reason why he would be honking his horn in regards to his brother or family, he also pointed at to our building, so it could have easily been our apartment he was pointing at as he walked away from his car, and this lead directly into the english speaking conversation my girlfriend and I overheard.

So as far as I can tell, my girlfriend asks them to not be so loud, 2 of the friends left, the neighbor got in his car and honked for awhile trying to bother us, then they both started yammering on about how out of line we were, and then we finally came out and the arguing started.

How childish is that? It's ridiculous.

 

[Darthphere]

Well see, this is the problem. You don't see what they did wrong. Apparently in your view, it's okay to make so much racket that you drive your neighbors crazy. And when said neighbors politely ask you to tone it down, just go ahead and curse and yell some more. That's why I say it's partly a cultural thing.

Um yeah, I never said that. Good job twisting my argument though.

And are you insulting me with those last two sentences, I'd be careful I might get all hispanic and yell at you.

 

[TLH]

RACIST!

 

[jaguarr]

Well see, this is the problem. You don't see what they did wrong. Apparently in your view, it's okay to make so much racket that you drive your neighbors crazy. And when said neighbors politely ask you to tone it down, just go ahead and curse and yell some more. That's why I say it's partly a cultural thing.

There could also be a socio-economic component to this as well. The brother in particular sounds rather low class, to be honest.

jag

 

[JP]

Look, don't make this awkward.

jag

I.. uh, er.. um. Well, hmm, uhhh oh.

 

[Darthphere]

There could also be a socio-economic component to this as well. The brother in particular sounds rather low class, to be honest.

jag

Wear a monocle and say that again.