If you laughed at the crying then you probably....

Tony Stark said:
No the audience didn't laugh. Select immature dolts laughed. In my theater there were only a handfull of people who laughed.

That perfectly describes my experience too.
 
you still can't make that argument... the majority this or that... I can think of countless number of close friends and relatives who have ALL seen the film and laughed their asses off at those scenes. You're telling me that the kind of **** they've had to go through in the middle east, pakistan, India, dealing with the after effects of Partition even up until ****ing now makes them all emotionally immature? You're digging a bigger hole for yourself dude... just stop where you're at and let people have their opinions... so they didn't react how you wanted them to a movie... learn to live with people's reactions, responses and opinions and thoughts without having to judge the "majority" of them as immature. A younger buddy i look out for, ritesh, only 16 and has been beaten by his dad through out life and his mom beaten on multiple occasions, so much so she's had her face rearranged by his bastard dad and has finally gotten legally away from that ******* and has him jailed bloody hated the film cuz of the amount of cheese (despite the fact that it's the biggest hit of 2007 in India)... in Indian culture you don't readily rebel against your father and he managed to but nearly paid for it with his life... you're telling me he's now emotionally immature despite your lame, bull**** pathetic categorically stupid assumption of slotting him into a made up category of people who didn't respond to the film the way you did.

I'm glad you were able to connect with the drama... honeslty good for you, I wanted to... my cousins and friends wanted to... Ritesh wanted to (despite he liked Spider-man 1 the best, he's still an Avengers fan on the comics).. It's good to know that we've been slotted into a bull**** category of the "emotionally bankrupt and immature." Congratulations on winning the award for being on the highest horse possible... I'll let him know about this, just to see his reaction... i'm sure he's gonna want to salute you.

Don't be presumptous ok? stop where you are and just learn to live with other people's opinions.
 
I think there are some people especially younger people who haven't experienced true love or experienced death first hand. Not all but some. I think alot of them were the type of people who laugh at this stuff.

As someone said before, it's a maturity issue. I guess the mistake Rami made was assuming his audience was mature enough, to understand and sympathize with the characters.

Can you even hear us from up there on your high horse? The scene was poorly acted and that poor acting turned what should've been an emotionally gripping scene into something laughable. And don't give me that crap about understanding the characters. I felt genuine empathy for Peter and Harry at various points in that movie, but Tobey's goofy face took me out of that moment. It has nothing to do with maturity. It has everything to do with the fact that Sam Raimi couldn't direct a reasonable serious scene to save his life.

In fact, I find that less mature people tend to defend this movie and just ate up crap like the dancing scenes with a spoon, while more mature people just found it all to be a tad too goofy. I'm fairly positive that if you went and saw this movie and looked around at the audience during Peter's crying scene, you wouldn't find any 8 year-olds snickering at it. You'd probably find people lke me who couldn't believe that they'd botch such a potentially gut-wrenching scene trying to hold back the laughter.
 
Grinder,
First of all, let me congratulate you for intelligently criticizing the film and not going to the extremes most people here love to practise.
Thanks, I too go out on stupid remarks from time to time but mostly I criticise a movie for it's flaws or at least how I see them.

But Peter is not all-powerful and Harry seemed to have totally gone over the edge at that point. I mean, he grabbed MJ, one of his best friends, and smashed her against the wall. Maybe she thought letting the guys duke it out may not be the best idea. After all, MJ is still quite new in this super-hero everyday life. I find it worked.
Depends on how much time went by between S-M2 and S-M3. It just felt dump to me. *shrugs*

I think that's where the "buddy talk" that some people hate comes into play. To show that Pete's and Harry's feelings for each other are finally clear. To once again remind us of the relationship they had during the school years (standing up for each other) and end it on this note. Plus, the adrenaline had already died at that moment, with the previous scene of Pete forgiving Marko, so I didn't find it hard to get into the proper mood.

My humble opinion, of course.:cwink:
Again, if it wouldn't have been so rushed, I think it would've worked perfectly. I read the book and it described the whole end battle just much better than how it played out on screen. The whole setup for it just felt so weird, especially because Peter just nearly killed Harry 10 minutes ago and than he comes over and is like "Hi bud! Let's go get 'em!" like nothing ever happened. But that's the fault of the direction/editing. There's clearly a gap between the jazz club scene and the church. Harry was completely healed in what appeared to be 1 day, even the Goblin stuff isn't THAT good. Eddie didn't even have time to try his powers and Sandman did what exactly up to the point where he meets with Venom?
The story was too overloaded to keep track of all the plots and just fell apart in the end.

Still, alot of people liked it, a friend of mine even likes it more than the other movies, but that's prolly the difference between comicfans and normal viewers. Or I'm just nitpicking 'cause I watch alot of movies and get better at finding plotholes everyday ...
 
actualy I felt the most emotional durring the first Flint sequence....I guess it is because I am father now..my baby girl is just 13 months old.

I made some bad choices in life before I met my wife, she helped me steady myself in alot of ways. I just felt really connected to the sandman at that point...it was the most tear jerking kinda sequence for me
 
Can you even hear us from up there on your high horse? The scene was poorly acted and that poor acting turned what should've been an emotionally gripping scene into something laughable. And don't give me that crap about understanding the characters. I felt genuine empathy for Peter and Harry at various points in that movie, but Tobey's goofy face took me out of that moment. It has nothing to do with maturity. It has everything to do with the fact that Sam Raimi couldn't direct a reasonable serious scene to save his life.

In fact, I find that less mature people tend to defend this movie and just ate up crap like the dancing scenes with a spoon, while more mature people just found it all to be a tad too goofy. I'm fairly positive that if you went and saw this movie and looked around at the audience during Peter's crying scene, you wouldn't find any 8 year-olds snickering at it. You'd probably find people lke me who couldn't believe that they'd botch such a potentially gut-wrenching scene trying to hold back the laughter.

Honestly...this thread is making me have second thoughts about being a defender of this movie.
 
Honestly...this thread is making me have second thoughts about being a defender of this movie.

There are definitely redeeming parts of the movie, but things like this just tipped the balance towards "crappy" for a lot of us.
 
you still can't make that argument... the majority this or that... I can think of countless number of close friends and relatives who have ALL seen the film and laughed their asses off at those scenes. You're telling me that the kind of **** they've had to go through in the middle east, pakistan, India, dealing with the after effects of Partition even up until ****ing now makes them all emotionally immature? You're digging a bigger hole for yourself dude... just stop where you're at and let people have their opinions... so they didn't react how you wanted them to a movie... learn to live with people's reactions, responses and opinions and thoughts without having to judge the "majority" of them as immature. A younger buddy i look out for, ritesh, only 16 and has been beaten by his dad through out life and his mom beaten on multiple occasions, so much so she's had her face rearranged by his bastard dad and has finally gotten legally away from that ******* and has him jailed bloody hated the film cuz of the amount of cheese (despite the fact that it's the biggest hit of 2007 in India)... in Indian culture you don't readily rebel against your father and he managed to but nearly paid for it with his life... you're telling me he's now emotionally immature despite your lame, bull**** pathetic categorically stupid assumption of slotting him into a made up category of people who didn't respond to the film the way you did.

I'm glad you were able to connect with the drama... honeslty good for you, I wanted to... my cousins and friends wanted to... Ritesh wanted to (despite he liked Spider-man 1 the best, he's still an Avengers fan on the comics).. It's good to know that we've been slotted into a bull**** category of the "emotionally bankrupt and immature." Congratulations on winning the award for being on the highest horse possible... I'll let him know about this, just to see his reaction... i'm sure he's gonna want to salute you.

Don't be presumptous ok? stop where you are and just learn to live with other people's opinions.


Again, you and I are talking about two totally different things. I'm not trying to compare simulated tragedy in a movie to real life and never would dream of it.

As inspiring and dramatic as films like Schindler's list or Saving Private Ryan were, they are only tributes at best to the real tragedies and acts of heroism.

The folks I'm referring to are the immature jerks who use terms like "emo Pete" or "Emo-man 3", or "the movie was too emo". What the hell does that mean?

Peter's crying is no different than in the first movie. He didn't cry much in the 2nd other than that dream sequence where he tells Uncle Ben "I'm Spider-man no more." But the point is when someone important in your life dies you cry. When someone you love deeply rejects you, you get emotional. I think alot of people who laughed at those scenes were immature.
 
T.Mags looks like a baby when he puts on his acting crying face.
 
Nobody laughed when Will Smith's character cried because he couldn't take good care of his son.

People laugh when crying is forced or cheesy.


And that movie wasn't marketed towards kids. Nobody expected Spider-Man 3 to be an emotion based movie.

Honestly, I don't think this has anything to do with age, or experiences. I think this has to do with a person being mature (in a film viewer way) enough to attempt to put themselves into a character's shoes. Experiences can help that or not. I just think it has to do with being able to pay attention and focus on the movie. The first time I saw this I went with friends, and they kept talking throughout the movie, and laughed at all the crying scenes. They hated the movie. I went back a few days later with one of the same friends, who had talked and laughed and generally didn't seem to be paying attention the first time, and he was quiet and payed attention the second time and loved it. Go watch this movie by yourself sometime, or with quieter people, and it's easier to take seriously. And it's good. This movie had flaws, but the crying/acting was not one of them at all.

And as far as Maguire acting badly/looking funny, how do you know what he looks like when he cries? Suppose you were to hang out with Tobey Maguire, and he gets a phone call and starts crying, would you laugh at him for crying? Just because he looks funny? Everyone looks funny when they cry, if you want to look at it that way. Not being able to see that is immaturity.
 
I'd say SOME people laughed because they are immature, others felt it was unjustified due to shoddy acting and became slightly farcicle.
 
I personally didn't laugh. But I did close my eyes and was praying for him to stop making that face.
 
The person who started this thread seems to have a habit of generalized thought and labeling people who views things different than he does.

I don't know about anyone else.

But everyone I know laughed at the scene because of Tobey's -Face-. Not because of his tears.

People laughed at the first one.

People laughed during this one. Tobey makes a funny ass face when he pretends to cry.

How dare you go and judge people for snickering at something odd and truly ticklish. It's not -our- fault he looks like that.

Jeezus. Get over it.
 
Peter's crying is no different than in the first movie. He didn't cry much in the 2nd other than that dream sequence where he tells Uncle Ben "I'm Spider-man no more." But the point is when someone important in your life dies you cry. When someone you love deeply rejects you, you get emotional. I think alot of people who laughed at those scenes were immature.
Dude. I think you're the immature one here. Seriously. You have no right to pass judgment on people and dictate their experiences based on their reactions to a grown man making a face akin to a child who just took a poo in his diapers. You're being ridiculous and overly judgmental, and that alone shows just how much maturity you're lacking.
 
No the audience didn't laugh. Select immature dolts laughed. In my theater there were only a handfull of people who laughed.

So everyone that laughed don't understood the scene? C'mon... no one laughed in SM1 when Peter cried for uncle Ben.
 
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Funny as all hell. Guess I'm an immature "dolt" as you put it "Tony".

And I must not have experienced any true hardship or loss in life.

Or comprehend what it is to feel emotional pain. :whatever:
 
So everyone that laughed don't understood the scene? C'mon... no one laughed in SM1 when Peter cried for uncle Ben.
Thats not true. Plenty of people laughed when Uncle Ben died, in the theatre for the exact same reason.
 
yeah tony's full of it... he's just frustrated that people didn't react to the film's drama the way he did and now categorizes them or now as he says a "majority" of them as immature... sadly it's a case of pot calling kettle black here.
 
"How dare you laugh at my comic book icon while he weeps!!!!"

That's the theme I'm gathering from this thread.
 
Funny as all hell. Guess I'm an immature "dolt" as you put it "Tony".

And I must not have experienced any true hardship or loss in life.

Or comprehend what it is to feel emotional pain. :whatever:


Sounds correct to me.

I've seen far worse acting in a lot of movies. This acting isn't excellent, but it's not bad either.
And he does look funny. But everyone looks funny when they cry, and showing that clip out of the context of the film doesn't make your argument.

IMO, you need to have an attention span greater than that of a 4 year old to appreciate it.
 
The select individuals in general who claimed to have laughed because Tobey 'made a funny face' may be judging the scene in a more surface sense. When a person cries in the real world due to an unfortunate tragedy they don't take the time to look in the mirror to make sure their face doesn't 'look funny'. Show me at least ONE person out there who looks even mildly 'normal' while crying after losing a father, mother, brother, etc. We make these faces not because we want to, but its spontaneous at the moment because of the very raw emotion involved. I considered Tobey's facial expressions to be realistic and accurate to what someone would potentially look like in his situation were it real.
 
It's not just when he cries, Tobey looks weird if he does anything but a straight expression.
 
So... what do you guys look like when you cry?

I want to know that as well... I have seen plenty of people cry and not once do they cry 'cool'. Which is one reason, for me, it's hard to cry in public- because I know I don't look good when crying.

I tremble, trying to hold the tears away, which albiet forms an unintentional 'face'- but once they come out- they come out big time. :csad: I'm man enough to admit it.

But, everyone here must be macho and cool and cry like a strong action hero. :cwink:
 

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