I'm Not Messing Around, I'm Doing Important Stuff in The Superhero Cinematic Civil War Thread - Part 61

[AndrewGilkison]

Superman Returns was also the last time a director known for directing a Marvel Comics franchise jumped over to WB/DC to direct a Superman movie and was tasked with revitalizing it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Looking back, kind of wild that Superman Returns actually had a higher box office than Batman Begins.

A big part of that was Begins. It got people hyped for DC again.

 

[Lily Adler]

A big part of that was Begins. It got people hyped for DC again.

We've all seen the fan art of Baleman and Routhman using Kryptonite for their games.

 

[Ninjablade]

We've all seen the fan art of Baleman and Routhman using Kryptonite for their games.

Another sign of how much we've fallen. We used to get proper photoshopped fan art of these two. Now it's AI slop.

 

[flickchick85]

Looking back, kind of wild that Superman Returns actually had a higher box office than Batman Begins.

Which is a textbook example of why I always tell people to look at a movie’s overall performance week-to-week, not its final number. The legs tell the story, generally. Because BB’s performance told the story of an audience that was energized by what they saw. SR’s…didn’t.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Which is textbook example of why I always tell people to look at a movie’s overall performance week-to-week, not its final number. The legs tell the story, generally. Because BB’s performance told the story of an audience that was energized by what they saw. SR’s…didn’t.

Also one came in under budget, while the other went over and ended up cutting some of it's most expensive scenes.

 

[Moncton]

Which is a textbook example of why I always tell people to look at a movie’s overall performance week-to-week, not its final number. The legs tell the story, generally. Because BB’s performance told the story of an audience that was energized by what they saw. SR’s…didn’t.

True, B v S had an amazing opening, I think its first day even beat Avengers first day and then it dropped heavily.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

@Ninjablade on this very special day:

 

[Ninjablade]

@Ninjablade on this very special day:

 

[flickchick85]

Also one came in under budget, while the other went over and ended up cutting some of it's most expensive scenes.

If I recall correctly, SR’s production budget got Flyby’s development costs wrapped into it, so the cost is not entirely that production’s fault, but the audience’s lack of enthusiasm sure as hell was!

To this day I still try to imagine what those story meetings were like when they pitched Lois having a kid from the night she had with Superman that she can’t remember, Supes being MIA for the 1st several years of that kid’s childhood, and then returning to be a mopey stalker of his abandoned pseudo-family. Like who heard that at the studio or otherwise and thought, “that’s it! That’s the story we need to bring Superman back to the masses!” Boggles my mind.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

True, B v S had an amazing opening, I think its first day even beat Avengers first day and then it dropped heavily.

Even still, it's first weekend was only 2m short of noted box office flop, Black Adam.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If I recall correctly, SR’s production budget got Flyby’s development costs wrapped into it, so the cost is not entirely that production’s fault, but the audience’s lack of enthusiasm sure as hell was!

To this day I still try to imagine what those story meetings were like when they pitched Lois having a kid from the night she had with Superman that she can’t remember, Supes being MIA for the 1st several years of that kid’s childhood, and then returning to be a mopey stalker of his abandoned pseudo-family. Like who heard that at the studio or otherwise and thought, “that’s it! That’s the story we need to bring Superman back to the masses!” Boggles my mind.

True. Though I also believe this might of been the first time noted for Singer being a big issue on set.

I think the story concept was fine. I think casting Bosworth and kind of removing Clark's general feelings on anything made it a bit pointless.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

@flickchick85 on Superman:

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Some scenes are perfect:

 

[Spider-Fan]

If I recall correctly, SR’s production budget got Flyby’s development costs wrapped into it, so the cost is not entirely that production’s fault, but the audience’s lack of enthusiasm sure as hell was!

To this day I still try to imagine what those story meetings were like when they pitched Lois having a kid from the night she had with Superman that she can’t remember, Supes being MIA for the 1st several years of that kid’s childhood, and then returning to be a mopey stalker of his abandoned pseudo-family. Like who heard that at the studio or otherwise and thought, “that’s it! That’s the story we need to bring Superman back to the masses!” Boggles my mind.

Then you look at who the director was, and suddenly it makes perfect sense who pitched that

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

SR was just a waste of Brandon Routh who could've potentially been great.

I recently saw the ideas for the SR sequel and cringed even more.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

SR was just a waste of Brandon Routh who could've potentially been great.

I recently saw the ideas for the SR sequel and cringed even more.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I bet when Snyder read about it he was like

 

[DarthSkywalker]

@SwordOfMorning :I had a vision, of a world without Black Adam supremacy. WB ground out a little profit and the cult tried to shut them down, one block at a time. And it was so... boring. I've had a change of heart. I don't want Mr. Gunn spoiling everything, but why should I have all the fun? Let's give someone else a chance. If Superman isn't dead in sixty minutes then I blow up a hospital.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

@SwordOfMorning :I had a vision, of a world without Black Adam supremacy. WB ground out a little profit and the cult tried to shut them down, one block at a time. And it was so... boring. I've had a change of heart. I don't want Mr. Gunn spoiling everything, but why should I have all the fun? Let's give someone else a chance. If Superman isn't dead in sixty minutes then I blow up a hospital.

Now I’m thinking about how utterly miserable it’s going to be when Gunn introduces a straight off the page Joker and I have to listen to years of F1NALLY THE REAL JOKER.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Now I’m thinking about how utterly miserable it’s going to be when Gunn introduces a straight off the page Joker and I have to listen to years of F1NALLY THE REAL JOKER.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Please.

Gunn's Batman will be a dirtier, hornier version of what Schumacher and William Dozier did. But with ninjas (because, Damian). Mark my words.

Hope Battinson is practicing his Batusi.

 

[Moncton]

I can't believe this is real, but one of the prominent Snyder fans on X put up a pic of Bin Laden with Snyder's face and wrote that this July when Superman releases you can call him OSnyder Bin Laden and someone reported it to the FBI and they apparently are looking into it LOL.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The best comic book film of 2012:

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

I can't count the number of times I've said (imitating the voices) "So you came back to die with your city." "No I came back to stop you."

All these years later and I can't decide whether some of the lines are meant to be taken seriously or whether the Nolan brothers were laughing their asses off putting them in.