I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[The Lazarus Pit]

I love his transparency in debunking things, and love his enthusiasm, but I have almost no interest in seeing what Gunn himself would do with Batman. I hope he hires someone other than Muschietti or himself. Neither of those options inspire confidence.

After The Penguin being the success it is, it makes even less sense to have a concurrent Batman franchise. I’ve seen the arguments in favor of multiple Batmen onscreen at the same time, and I just don’t agree. It’s a bad ****ing cannibalistic idea that should be avoided at all costs.

For all we know Superman could be a gigantic ****ing fail. There’s a really good chance of that happening and then we’re stuck in another DCEU type situation of constant pivoting and panicking from WB.

I’ve gone back and forth on what I think they should do but after Penguin, i want a Reeves trilogy to be completed, and a few more spinoffs. The Batman saga has a great chance of being the definitive cinematic Batman tale, and Reeves deserves the grace and space to create. I will say he is a ****ing slowpoke though. Yeah yeah “great art takes time” I’ve heard it all, but good lord this guy takes a long time to write,

 

[marsh]

I love his transparency in debunking things, and love his enthusiasm, but I have almost no interest in seeing what Gunn himself would do with Batman. I hope he hires someone other than Muschietti or himself. Neither of those options inspire confidence.

After The Penguin being the success it is, it makes even less sense to have a concurrent Batman franchise. I’ve seen the arguments in favor of multiple Batmen onscreen at the same time, and I just don’t agree. It’s a bad ****ing cannibalistic idea that should be avoided at all costs.

For all we know Superman could be a gigantic ****ing fail. There’s a really good chance of that happening and then we’re stuck in another DCEU type situation of constant pivoting and panicking from WB.

I’ve gone back and forth on what I think they should do but after Penguin, i want a Reeves trilogy to be completed, and a few more spinoffs. The Batman saga has a great chance of being the definitive cinematic Batman tale, and Reeves deserves the grace and space to create. I will say he is a ****ing slowpoke though. Yeah yeah “great art takes time” I’ve heard it all, but good lord this guy takes a long time to write,

Takes so long for 6/10 scripts :///

Let’s be honest. The batman was not a dark knight level woah holy ****, Oscars get pressured to add more best picture nominees, culture movement type thing. With how long 2 is taking it needs to be a top 5 superhero movies ever lol

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Reeves Batman movies will never be "definitive" because he only wants to do "grounded" Batman stories and villains. That is only one part of what makes Batman great. If you aren't willing to incorporate every aspect of Batman into your Batman universe, it can never be a "definitive" be all and end all take on the character. It can be good, but that doesn't make it the end all be all and there is no reason Gunn shouldn't be allowed to give us his Batman, especially when his Batman has more stories that can be told compared to Reeves limited scope.

 

[BatsAndNights]

>OMG Rob's gonna be 40+ once this is done!!!

The man's 38 and can still convincingly pull off late 20s. Also, if it's a good movie/trilogy, who cares? If I can watch BCS when Aaron Paul is very obviously no longer in his 20s and Bob Odenkirk has clearly aged about a decade, I can live with Pattinson looking early 30s by the time he gets to 45

 

[WayneMB]

Reeves Batman movies will never be "definitive" because he only wants to do "grounded" Batman stories and villains. That is only one part of what makes Batman great. If you aren't willing to incorporate every aspect of Batman into your Batman universe, it can never be a "definitive" be all and end all take on the character. It can be good, but that doesn't make it the end all be all and there is no reason Gunn shouldn't be allowed to give us his Batman, especially when his Batman has more stories that can be told compared to Reeves limited scope.

no

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Definitive is a pointless concept. The only worthwhile enterprise is unique, individualist takes on Batman by creatives with strong voices. Reeves take is considerably more grounded than my ideal Batman movie but that doesn’t matter at all to me because it’s high quality and the kind of superhero movie that’s actually worth making.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

no

What a great rebuttal. Thanks for your insight.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

 

[Johnny Frost]

It's like Reeves said, filming will be mid-year.

 

[Sawyer]

Takes so long for 6/10 scripts :///

Let’s be honest. The batman was not a dark knight level woah holy ****, Oscars get pressured to add more best picture nominees, culture movement type thing. With how long 2 is taking it needs to be a top 5 superhero movies ever lol

“Your first one wasn’t that great but I’m very mad that I have to wait for a sequel” is like the CBM equivalent of “I didn’t want to prom with her anyway, she’s not even that hot!”

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Definitive is a pointless concept. The only worthwhile enterprise is unique, individualist takes on Batman by creatives with strong voices. Reeves take is considerably more grounded than my ideal Batman movie but that doesn’t matter at all to me because it’s high quality and the kind of superhero movie that’s actually worth making.

I think we have room for many different types of comic book movies and many different types of Batman on screen. Its about the stories and the characters at the end of the day.

I like Reeves take. But he isn't giving me everything I want from Batman. That is why having another Batman movie franchise excites me.

 

[marsh]

“Your first one wasn’t that great but I’m very mad that I have to wait for a sequel” is like the CBM equivalent of “I didn’t want to prom with her anyway, she’s not even that hot!”

I guess it would be if that’s what I actually said

Re read it a few more times, you might understand

 

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LOL Watch this get pushed to 2027.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Reeves Batman movies will never be "definitive" because he only wants to do "grounded" Batman stories and villains. That is only one part of what makes Batman great. If you aren't willing to incorporate every aspect of Batman into your Batman universe, it can never be a "definitive" be all and end all take on the character. It can be good, but that doesn't make it the end all be all and there is no reason Gunn shouldn't be allowed to give us his Batman, especially when his Batman has more stories that can be told compared to Reeves limited scope.

What are you confused about, @emielaen?

 

[marsh]

LOL Watch this get pushed to 2027.

That would be absolutely ridiculous and not reflect well on Reeves

And I can’t help but feel like it’s a distinct possibility

 

[Grodd]

Imagine TBATB releases before this lol

 

[TheGDBatman]

LOL Watch this get pushed to 2027.

 

[marsh]

Nolan - entire billion dollar critically raved Batman trilogy in 7 years with a movie in between each release one of which (inception) did 800M and got nominated for best picture


Reeves - uhhh I might have part 2 out in over 4 and a half years… maybe…

 

[SwordOfMorning]

That would be absolutely ridiculous and not reflect well on Reeves

And I can’t help but feel like it’s a distinct possibility

Who cares? He has a slow process. Creative people have their own methods. I genuinely don’t understand what’s so agonizing about waiting for a Batman movie lol, there’s ninety seven of them.


This movies production is functioning in a healthy way (from what we know!) where the people making it get to take as much time as they want tinkering with it. This is how all movies SHOULD work.

 

[emielaen]

Lol Reeves himself said they’re shooting next year but one sentence from a trade unrelated to the film got people in a tizzy.

 

[marsh]

Who cares? He has a slow process. Creative people have their own methods. I genuinely don’t understand what’s so agonizing about waiting for a Batman movie lol, there’s ninety seven of them.


This movies production is functioning in a healthy way (from what we know!) where the people making it get to take as much time as they want tinkering with it. This is how all movies SHOULD work.

Get out of here. Okay what if it took 20 years? You’d say that was too long right? Okay so obviously that’s hyperbolic but given that you’d say that is excessive that means we can agree a line must be drawn somewhere. And we can agree there is a threshold of too long somewhere. I think we’re approaching it.

Also 97? Try 8. And ones that are good? Try 6. Generously.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Get out of here. Okay what if it took 20 years? You’d say that was too long right? Okay so obviously that’s hyperbolic but given that you’d say that is excessive that means we can agree a line must be drawn somewhere. And we can agree there is a threshold of too long somewhere. I think we’re approaching it.

Also 97? Try 8. And ones that are good? Try 6. Generously.

Wherever the line is it sure as hell isn't the five years currently scheduled between movies. The average gap between sequels is 3-4 years and for some franchises like, say, Bond this gap would be relatively normal. There was also a massively successful, critically acclaimed spin-off miniseries between sequels - it ain't like the franchise has been dormant (and it wouldn't matter if it was).

Lmao, oh no, six good movies for a character. We're starving. I just don't understand what people want to be happening here? Do you honestly think Gunn dry clicking a revolver against Reeves's head and demanding he work at a faster pace is a good idea?

 

[marsh]

Wherever the line is it sure as hell isn't the five years currently scheduled between movies. The average gap between sequels is 3-4 years and for some franchises like, say, Bond this gap would be relatively normal. There was also a massively successful, critically acclaimed spin-off miniseries between sequels - it ain't like the franchise has been dormant (and it wouldn't matter if it was).

Lmao, oh no, six good movies for a character. We're starving. I just don't understand what people want to be happening here? Do you honestly think Gunn dry clicking a revolver against Reeves's head and demanding he work at a faster pace is a good idea?

Now you’re pivoting. You started with a ridiculous hyperbole, got refuted, now 6 is great. And again, I’m being generous with that 6. We went from 97 to you basically can count them all on one hand and now you’re hand waving that and saying that’s perfectly dandy.

Well as a fan I want more. Duh. If I had a magic hand I’d render 50 masterpiece Batman movies. Hell a 100 screw it. Why as a fan are you coping and making excuses for an abysmal schedule? I don’t wanna be a senior citizen waiting for some mid tier trilogy to complete.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Now you’re pivoting. You started with a ridiculous hyperbole, got refuted, now 6 is great. And again, I’m being generous with that 6. We went from 97 to you basically can count them all on one hand and now you’re hand waving that and saying that’s perfectly dandy.

Well as a fan I want more. Duh. If I had a magic hand I’d render 50 masterpiece Batman movies. Hell a 100 screw it. Why as a fan are you coping and making excuses for an abysmal schedule? I don’t wanna be a senior citizen waiting for some mid tier trilogy to complete.

Bruh, what are you talking about? If I grant you six that's still an inordinate amount for a character like this. There's like... one really good Superman and two to three okay ones at best. Batman has an embarrassment of cinematic riches. Batman is a famously over exposed character. I am in no way pivoting, if anything responding with "There's only SIX GOOD MOVIES" is proving my point.

I'm not coping or making excuses. I'm a huge fan of his take, I wish Part II was out yesterday but I'm a huge fan because of the people making them. If they want to take their time then, sure, whatever - I'm in it for the filmmakers first and the IP second. New Batman stuff is gravy to me, I've been served extensively as a fan of the character for literally my entire life.

 

[Johnny Frost]

It seems pretty clear that The Batman II and Dune Messiah will be filming at the same time, so unfortunately it's pretty likely that Fraser won't be returning.