I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[Ninjablade]

Side note, just watched this flick for the first time a week or so ago. Utter s***.

It's Sam Raimi, would you expect anything else

 

[flickchick85]

It's Sam Raimi, would you expect anything else

I don’t know why I turn on every Sam Raimi film expecting the guy who made Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness and always get the guy who made the Quick and the Dead and The Gift instead. It’s just a constant mistake at this point.

 

[Lily Adler]

I don’t know why I turn on every Sam Raimi film expecting the guy who made Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness and always get the guy who made the Quick and the Dead and The Gift instead. It’s just a constant mistake at this point.

Multiverse of Madness has its moments.

 

[Lily Adler]

Side note, just watched this flick for the first time a week or so ago. Utter s***.

James Franco was miscast and Mila can't decide when she wants to be a good actor.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

I see Gunn is now saying that the DCU Batman movie hasn’t been delayed, contradicting what Andy said about the movie being “postponed” and doing another movie first. This whole deal is a mess, you got Reeves saying one thing and then Gunn contradicting him. Now Andy saying one thing and Gunn contradicting him as well. Its always fun being a DC fan. Lol

 

[Gothamsknight]

Just want to add my two cents here. Personally, I think 5 and a half years between films in this day and age is too much, but I can also understand why some of the hardcore "let him cook" people are getting defensive over it as well. There's a group of fairly young people out there that have The Batman as their first big Batman experience in the cinema. Or, at least, for a vision like the one Matt Reeves has been cooking up, so it means the world to them. I can empathize with that. I was in that same boat in the 2000's with both the Raimi trilogy and Nolan trilogy. The thing is, things were so much different then. The time between movies was much shorter, and the quality didn't suffer at all. Raimi managed to give us Spider-Man 2 just 2 years later, which is widely regarded as one of the best superhero films ever made. for some, like myself, it's top 3. Then, Nolan manages to make both the Prestige in between BB and TDK, perfecting his creative talents, which only benefited TDK in transcending the superhero genre, and once more with Inception between TDK & TDKR. In retrospect, you can kinda get why some of us are scratching our heads at the idea of 5 and a half years not being too long when we got TDK trilogy in just 7 years, and it's still the best comic book trilogy ever.

I'm 31 years old, and I just got married. I have other things going on in my life than The Batman Part II. It's easily one of my most aniticpated films, but I'm also excited for many other movies as well. The difference between now and when I was a teenager is that back then, I'd spend every waking hour thinking about the next installment, and I just don't do that anymore. Someone also mentioned the point that it's becoming like video game development times. GTA V came out 11 years ago, and GTA VI still won't be here for another year or more. The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim came out 13 years ago on 11/11/11, and The Elder Scrolls VI likely won't be here until 2027. I just don't want to live in a world where sequels start taking that long. Long wait times = higher expectations = some people being disappointed with said product. Expecations grow, and become harder to meet, but with that it's important to always keep realistic expectations. I hope The Batman Part II is great enough to warrant the long wait.

All that being said, I think everything is gonna be just fine. The film is taking longer than I would have liked, but it will be here before we know it, and as I said before, we are gonna have set pics next summer, shortly after James Gunns Superman releases, which I'm very excited about. It's gonna be okay.

 

[BatsAndNights]

Just want to add my two cents here. Personally, I think 5 and a half years between films in this day and age is too much, but I can also understand why some of the hardcore "let him cook" people are getting defensive over it as well. There's a group of fairly young people out there that have The Batman as their first big Batman experience in the cinema. Or, at least, for a vision like the one Matt Reeves has been cooking up, so it means the world to them. I can empathize with that. I was in that same boat in the 2000's with both the Raimi trilogy and Nolan trilogy. The thing is, things were so much different then. The time between movies was much shorter, and the quality didn't suffer at all. Raimi managed to give us Spider-Man 2 just 2 years later, which is widely regarded as one of the best superhero films ever made. for some, like myself, it's top 3. Then, Nolan manages to make both the Prestige in between BB and TDK, perfecting his creative talents, which only benefited TDK in transcending the superhero genre, and once more with Inception between TDK & TDKR. In retrospect, you can kinda get why some of us are scratching our heads at the idea of 5 and a half years not being too long.

I'm 31 years old, and I just got married. I have other things going on in my life than The Batman Part II. It's easily one of my most aniticpated films, but I'm also excited for many other movies as well. The difference between now and when I was a teenager is that back then, I'd spend every waking hour thinking about the next installment, and I just don't do that anymore. Someone also mentioned the point that it's becoming like video game development times. GTA V came out 11 years ago, and GTA VI still won't be here for another year or more. The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim came out 13 years ago on 11/11/11, and The Elder Scrolls VI likely won't be here until 2027. I just don't want to live in a world where sequels start taking that long.

All that being said, I think everything is gonna be just fine. The film is taking longer than I would have liked, but it will be here before we know it, and as I said before, we are gonna have set pics next summer, shortly after James Gunns Superman releases, which I'm very excited about. It's gonna be okay.

Yeah, I do think any worries of what this delay means for the fate of TB2 are a bit drastic just because it is very apparent that Gunn's eager to work with Reeves to get the movie made because of how good the last one was. The only real worry I have long term is the troubled productions of both TB1 and TB2 might lead to attempts to interfere with TB3 to essentially rush production along or the outright worst case scenario that TB3 just outright gets cancelled because DC decides it's not worth the trouble (which is dependent on TB2's box office more than anything, which is also likely gonna be affected by these delays). But time's only gonna tell. If TB2 blows the socks off everybody and makes a Batjillion dollars, I think WB will have no problem whatsoever with the trilogy taking 15 years

 

[BatLobster]

Just want to add my two cents here. Personally, I think 5 and a half years between films in this day and age is too much, but I can also understand why some of the hardcore "let him cook" people are getting defensive over it as well. There's a group of fairly young people out there that have The Batman as their first big Batman experience in the cinema. Or, at least, for a vision like the one Matt Reeves has been cooking up, so it means the world to them. I can empathize with that. I was in that same boat in the 2000's with both the Raimi trilogy and Nolan trilogy. The thing is, things were so much different then. The time between movies was much shorter, and the quality didn't suffer at all. Raimi managed to give us Spider-Man 2 just 2 years later, which is widely regarded as one of the best superhero films ever made. for some, like myself, it's top 3. Then, Nolan manages to make both the Prestige in between BB and TDK, perfecting his creative talents, which only benefited TDK in transcending the superhero genre, and once more with Inception between TDK & TDKR. In retrospect, you can kinda get why some of us are scratching our heads at the idea of 5 and a half years not being too long when we got TDK trilogy in just 7 years, and it's still the best comic book trilogy ever.

I'm 31 years old, and I just got married. I have other things going on in my life than The Batman Part II. It's easily one of my most aniticpated films, but I'm also excited for many other movies as well. The difference between now and when I was a teenager is that back then, I'd spend every waking hour thinking about the next installment, and I just don't do that anymore. Someone also mentioned the point that it's becoming like video game development times. GTA V came out 11 years ago, and GTA VI still won't be here for another year or more. The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim came out 13 years ago on 11/11/11, and The Elder Scrolls VI likely won't be here until 2027. I just don't want to live in a world where sequels start taking that long. Long wait times = higher expectations = some people being disappointed with said product. Expecations grow, and become harder to meet, but with that it's important to always keep realistic expectations. I hope The Batman Part II is great enough to warrant the long wait.

All that being said, I think everything is gonna be just fine. The film is taking longer than I would have liked, but it will be here before we know it, and as I said before, we are gonna have set pics next summer, shortly after James Gunns Superman releases, which I'm very excited about. It's gonna be okay.

Well said GK.

You're right about the ballooning and unrealistic expectations caused by delays, and that is the main reason I think this is kind of a bummer. None of it personally bothers me, but I think we're both talking about this through the lens of the state of the film industry and overall culture of fandom with this stuff, and in lieu of any actual news about the movie hopefully that's fair game to discuss.

In a way, I'm kinda glad the people who have made films like this their entire personality to the point that they don't know what The Odyssey is have to just deal and wait. Might be good for them.

I see Gunn is now saying that the DCU Batman movie hasn’t been delayed, contradicting what Andy said about the movie being “postponed” and doing another movie first. This whole deal is a mess, you got Reeves saying one thing and then Gunn contradicting him. Now Andy saying one thing and Gunn contradicting him as well. Its always fun being a DC fan. Lol

Gunn needs to get off Twitter. This one man PR department routine is just so whack.

 

[solidsnake86]

Gunn needs to get off Twitter. This one man PR department routine is just so whack.

Agreed. I get why he is doing it because the last people in charge let rumours just grow and also let the narrative be controlled by people online with no sources.

Here, Muschietti himself said it, so Gunn is likely being cute with language saying it's not delayed because it technically hasn't been given a release date. But why bother even talking about it.

 

[emielaen]

Some of y'all are reaaaally getting caught up in semantics over what Gunn says. It's not that deep. BatB doesn't even have a known writer so it was obviously not happening any time soon. Reeves and Gunn have both said that the script is being finished like half a dozen times since October.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Gunn needs to get off Twitter. This one man PR department routine is just so whack.

Whether or not Gunn sends out tweets on the toilet that only hardcore nerds pay attention to years before a movie releases is immaterial to its success

 

[Frodo]

The reality of the situation is ,that this is the film industry, and even best laid plans change ,quite often.

While I'm not of the " on the bright side" state of mind, with regards to the delay , I appreciate, from following the developments of these and other properties for decades,
that there are no guarantees, despite pronouncements by studios, directors, or actors, at a given time.

Things change .

I think we all agree that it's unfortunate that The Batman 2 has been delayed.

There's no sugar coating that.

But , it is what it is , and we'll just have to wait to see how things shake out with the production .

 

[Johnny Frost]

I see Gunn is now saying that the DCU Batman movie hasn’t been delayed, contradicting what Andy said about the movie being “postponed” and doing another movie first. This whole deal is a mess, you got Reeves saying one thing and then Gunn contradicting him. Now Andy saying one thing and Gunn contradicting him as well. Its always fun being a DC fan. Lol

This all seems like a big misunderstanding, the film wasn't delayed because it never had a release date, I think the more appropriate term for what Muschietti is referring to is that the film is simply on hold since he plans to write and direct a film in the meantime.

 

[TheFuture]

Some of y'all are reaaaally getting caught up in semantics over what Gunn says. It's not that deep. BatB doesn't even have a known writer so it was obviously not happening any time soon. Reeves and Gunn have both said that the script is being finished like half a dozen times since October.

Then why announce BotB as part of an initial slate if there's no path to a solid script? As in no where near being a viable option.

I believe in Gunn but he's been clearly caught up in knots trying to make it all work, and now Reeves has been pulled into his uncertainty.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

BatB being a Muschietti movie means it'll be mid at best. Please don't get your hopes up. Whoever they cast as Batman for the DCU will be great for the part but probably be in a "made best with what they had to work with" situation. I do NOT want Muschietti to in the same state as Robert Battinson at all.

 

[emielaen]

Then why announce BotB as part of an initial slate if there's no path to a solid script? As in no where near being a viable option.

I believe in Gunn but he's been clearly caught up in knots trying to make it all work, and now Reeves has been pulled into his uncertainty.

There’s a massive difference between those things. I imagine they’ve definitely had the backbone or path of a story for a while, but that’s far from the same as writing a complete script. They don’t wanna move a muscle without one. I don’t see a problem w that.

Reeves hasn’t been pulled into any uncertainty because of Gunn. Reeves had canceled rumors running around the first film before Gunn was even attached to DC lol that’s all more hyperfixation from fans. He works how he works and fans blame everyone.

Gunn also doesn’t seem too uncertain of a ton himself. He’s helped put long-gestating ideas into production w Lanterns, Supergirl and Superman. They’re moving.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

There’s a massive difference between those things. I imagine they’ve definitely had the backbone or path of a story for a while, but that’s far from the same as writing a complete script. They don’t wanna move a muscle without one. I don’t see a problem w that.

Reeves hasn’t been pulled into any uncertainty because of Gunn. Reeves had canceled rumors running around the first film before Gunn was even attached to DC lol that’s all more hyperfixation from fans. He works how he works and fans blame everyone.

Gunn also doesn’t seem too uncertain of a ton himself. He’s helped put long-gestating ideas into production w Lanterns, Supergirl and Superman. They’re moving.

I believe in Gunn but I do NOT understand what he sees in the Muschiettis, esp after the massive flop that was The Flash. Their only recently good movie was It Chapter 1.

 

[TheFuture]

BatB being a Muschietti movie means it'll be mid at best. Please don't get your hopes up. Whoever they cast as Batman for the DCU will be great for the part but probably be in a "made best with what they had to work with" situation. I do NOT want Muschietti to in the same state as Robert Battinson at all.

I don't want to get into it because for me, Reeves Batman should take precedent hands down over the DCU Batman, but the fact you can so casually say the latter will be mid is worrying.

And I think this is the crux of the problem because Gunn knows how important Batman will be to his DCU, and it's hindering what Reeves is trying to do.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I don't want to get into it because for me, Reeves Batman should take precedent hands down over the DCU Batman, but the fact you can so casually say the latter will be mid is worrying.

And I think this is the crux of the problem because Gunn knows how important Batman will be to his DCU, and it's hindering what Reeves is trying to do.

Their last good movie would have been 10 years since BatB would be releasing, or close to it. Reeves in my mind is a creative god who goes sicko mode on scripts and as a director and should be allowed to take as much time as he needs (within reason) to make a sequel to his movie.

 

[emielaen]

I believe in Gunn but I do NOT understand what he sees in the Muschiettis, esp after the massive flop that was The Flash. Their only recently good movie was It Chapter 1.

Ok ok. I see. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. Who knows what happens between now and when or if this happens though. I'd love to see a different director brought on with the eventual writer hire tbh.

 

[Black Narcissus]

The Batman part III

It takes place two weeks after the events in the second

 

[Aesop Rocks]

something in the way mmmmmm

 

[J.Drangal]

The Batman part III

It takes place two weeks after the events in the second View attachment 117261

Robert Pattingrandson.

EDIT: Sorry for that...

 

[solidsnake86]

Now that we are about 3 years away from the sequel, I wonder if we get another spinoff show. The penguin was supposed to be the bridge but I doubt they greenlight a second season to come out before the sequel. It wouldn't make sense timeline wise.

The rumours of a joker tv show or something with the joker could be interesting (yes I know Gunn already debunked). Almost a year one type prequel would be cool with Gordon and a cameo by Batman.

I do remember there was an interview with Reeves talking about all these ideas he had for Batman and maybe having a tv show instead.

It could also be a good way to fill the void in 2026.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

What could they possibly do with a season two of The Penguin that would live up to the first season? They told the story they needed to tell, and that story was told to its natural conclusion.

It would probably be a better idea to just do a show about someone else, like Catwoman.