I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[dhandler01]

I swear some of you don't actually read what he says

 

[J.Drangal]

Gunn keeps saying each film have its own unique tone & style, so maybe The Batman is happening in Jersey while Superman is taking down kaijus in Delaware. Why not?

Or better yet, set The Batman epic crime saga 10 years ago in the DCU so you don’t even need to address the Superman question. Now, Reeves can use metahumans in his sequels (should he even want to exercise that option). And given the way Gunn describes metahumans in DCU, even though they’ve been around for 300 years:

“If you saw a shark-man walking down the street, you’d probably vomit and s— yourself to death. If they [the average citizen of the DCU] saw one, it would be more like if you saw Paul McCartney on the sidewalk in New York.”

Maybe we just haven’t seen one yet. There were those Clayface rumors. Who knows what’s in the Gotham’s sewers…

I don't particularly want to see Reeves' Batman integrated into the DC cinematic universe, and I don't think that will happen.
But I agree with this post about what could appear anyway in Reeves' Batman universe.

I'll keep saying that the visual style of the first movie leaves the door open for a lot of “crazy” stuff from the comics.
A Kaiju is definitely extreme, but when it comes to Batman's bestiary, I can easily imagine a crocodile-skinned killer or a Mr. Freeze using a refrigeration suit, and even a Cronenberg's The Fly like Man-Bat, all living in that same world. I'll die on that hill.
I went through the same debates nearly two decades ago, with people mocking the idea that Nolan could give his Joker a purple suit or green hair, so...

Now, I know Reeves has said he's going for a “crime drama,” so maybe we'll never get to see my intuition proven right...
But The Long Halloween was also a crime drama with a zombie living in the sewers, so who knows what he could end up bringing to the sequel.

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About Gunn saying that each DC movie will have its own tone, that's something I appreciate and has always seemed the most logical to me.
Whereas Marvel is certainly bound to make everything fit together, I've always thought that it's up to the director doing the big crossover event film to make everything coexist, not the other way around. It limits creativity too much otherwise.
The whole fun for the audience is to see the characters meet up anyway—they probably couldn't care less about tones being shifted punctually for it to work. And there's nothing that can't be done with thoughtful writers, designers, etc.

 

[BobJM]

I swear some of you don't actually read what he says

How so?

 

[dhandler01]

He has been consistent since day 1 yet you let yourself believe he is being wishy washy or like winking that it is gonna be a thing...even though he adamantly says it won't be.

 

[Boom]

Then there's really no point in tagging "right now" on there at the end or saying things are still "in flux."

 

[Lily Adler]

Then there's really no point in tagging "right now" on there at the end or saying things are still "in flux."

 

[Boom]

Yes please.

 

[Lily Adler]

Yes please.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Then there's really no point in tagging "right now" on there at the end or saying things are still "in flux."

Yep. Gunn is unambiguously being wishy washy. There's some behind the scenes reason he's heavily hedging his bets we aren't privy to.

 

[Elayis]

It seems like he wants Pattinson in the DCU but hasn't managed to convince Reeves yet.

 

[Johnny Frost]

I genuinely don't think Pattinson will go to the DCU

 

[solidsnake86]

He has been consistent since day 1 yet you let yourself believe he is being wishy washy or like winking that it is gonna be a thing...even though he adamantly says it won't be.

I think because it is the most confusing thing to explain to any regular person who isn't in to comic books. I told my wife about it and her point blank response was, that's dumb.

THe brave and the bold is not coming out any time soon. So it's almost better to leave it vague so you don't have to explain what the heck an "elseworlds" to anyone that asks.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

Gunn is absolutely being indirect about Battinson. “Everything is in flux right now” is not a concrete answer.

 

[Lily Adler]

Gunn is absolutely being indirect about Battinson. “Everything is in flux right now” is not a concrete answer.

 

[AndyTrevino]

Well there is a multiverse so he cant say never. But Pattinson is not going to be the DCU Batman.

No offense but I have no idea how you can specifically mention the multiverse as a way for something like this to work and not expect it to feel like the cheesiest, laziest **** ever. People were even saying the exact same thing when trying to rationalize how Joaquin's Joker could fit into the Reevesverse. Yeah, like Joaquin would say yes to that lmao.

Just try to seamlessly integrate one into the other. The day Battinson walks through a portal into another literal universe is the day I walk.

 

[J.Drangal]

No offense but I have no idea how you can specifically mention the multiverse as a way for something like this to work and not expect it to feel like the cheesiest, laziest **** ever. People were even saying the exact same thing when trying to rationalize how Joaquin's Joker could fit into the Reevesverse. Yeah, like Joaquin would say yes to that lmao.

Just try to seamlessly integrate one into the other. The day Battinson walks through a portal into another literal universe is the day I walk.

Same.

Hot take (but is it really?) : The multiverse in cinema is a concept as superficial as it's lazy, serving only to distract a handful of nerds so they don't realize that studios are just trying to get easy money.

I can't help but roll my eyes every time I see people arguing about which Earth is which and who belongs to what... I'm confident that pretty much any creators who have the opportunity to work on these characters couldn't care less about whether they are part of a multiverse, just as a Del Toro couldn't care less about whether his Pinocchio exists at distance from Disney's version within some Collodi-multiverse or whatever.

 

[dhandler01]

Yep. Gunn is unambiguously being wishy washy. There's some behind the scenes reason he's heavily hedging his bets we aren't privy to.

Or he just said what he said as a caveat because speaking in absolutes gets you in trouble and he gets asked this question too much...

You guys are looking for zebras here imho. I don't think it is a complicated as you all think it is. But i have been wrong before. (Stupid eyebrows! )

 

[dhandler01]

No offense but I have no idea how you can specifically mention the multiverse as a way for something like this to work and not expect it to feel like the cheesiest, laziest **** ever. People were even saying the exact same thing when trying to rationalize how Joaquin's Joker could fit into the Reevesverse. Yeah, like Joaquin would say yes to that lmao.

Just try to seamlessly integrate one into the other. The day Battinson walks through a portal into another literal universe is the day I walk.

Im not James Gunn...I have zero to do with it. And I am not saying I like the idea (I dont) I am just saying that is a reason he can't be talking in absolutes. You can never say never when there is an easy (or lazy) way to have your cake and eat it too.

I don't want Pattinson in the DCU as of now I prefer Reeves get to tell his story his way.

 

[dhandler01]

Same.

Hot take (but is it really?) : The multiverse in cinema is a concept as superficial as it's lazy, serving only to distract a handful of nerds so they don't realize that studios are just trying to get easy money.

I can't help but roll my eyes every time I see people arguing about which Earth is which and who belongs to what... I'm confident that pretty much any creators who have the opportunity to work on these characters couldn't care less about whether they are part of a multiverse, just as a Del Toro couldn't care less about whether his Pinocchio exists at distance from Disney's version within some Collodi-multiverse or whatever.

They would if the story was set up specifically to fo that

But otherwise yeah you are spot on.

 

[Boom]

Three years and a baby later:

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Everyone looks just sufficiently visually older that the few weeks long timeskip is gonna be really funny. It's not a real problem, but it's a thing lol

 

[Mindreaper21]

Knowing what Michael Marino is capable of, I have not a single worry.

 

[Lily Adler]

Three years and a baby later:

 

[solidsnake86]

Everyone looks just sufficiently visually older that the few weeks long timeskip is gonna be really funny. It's not a real problem, but it's a thing lol

It's always funny when you watch the movies back to back, it's noticeable.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Knowing what Michael Marino is capable of, I have not a single worry.

Okay but like they’re not gonna give Pattinson baby face prosthetics beyond normal movie makeup. It’s not an actual problem that he looks older now lol