The Dark Knight In Heath We Trust: A Ledgerbration: The TDK Joker Appreciation Thread

[CaptainClown]

Ya I say see it first.

 

[Bat-Mite]

Eh... I saw Batman '89 in theaters when I was just four, and I think I turned out all the better for it. So yeah, I say take her along. Even if some parts of it scare her, it's okay.. kids love to be scared.

 

[MegaGeek]

oh i dont think its too young to go to the movies. i think its too young to see a movie that is going to be loud and intense, and probably pretty scary and violent, involving a mass murdering clown on the big screen. its not like you can explain murder and death to a 2 year old in any way that will make any real sense to her. do you know how much that could affect her little mind? i hope at the very least someone is planning on seeing it first?

seriously.

Im going to have to agree. Shes not going to understand anything happening in the movie, how are you going to explain murder and all the dark plots to her in a safe way that wont mess her mind up?

 

[Crook]

The girl is 2. Chances are she won't even remember it right after you bring her home. Furthermore, it's up to the parent to explain the violence and such in media. If all it takes is a PG-13 movie to damage one's psyche, then I'd say there were bigger problems well before sitting down in that theater.

 

[deathfromabove]

and there is no reason to have to^

 

[halFAN]

honestly, she knows the difference between reality and tv. we were watching greys anatomy and she told me not to worry, the blood is only pretend! i get that some people are concerend about the situation, but seriously, its only pretend. and she does love to be scared.

ps. im an auntie, not an uncle...

 

[Marx]

i was 2 when i saw batman 89 =) and that's what did it for me

same here!

Eh... I saw Batman '89 in theaters when I was just four, and I think I turned out all the better for it. So yeah, I say take her along. Even if some parts of it scare her, it's okay.. kids love to be scared.

I have to admit, I'm feeling a little old right now. Thanks guys!

 

[Luchastyle]

honestly, she knows the difference between reality and tv. we were watching greys anatomy and she told me not to worry, the blood is only pretend! i get that some people are concerend about the situation, but seriously, its only pretend. and she does love to be scared.

ps. im an auntie, not an uncle...

hehe. yeah, i mean if she already understands fake blood and all that stuff then i don't think there's a problem. that's actually cute. i honestly don't see a problem. it's not like it's a horror movie. it doesn't glorify murder. it's a pg-13 movie and it has a hero. so the violence won't be TOO graphic and batman will save the day =)

i don't think there's a problem

I have to admit, I'm feeling a little old right now. Thanks guys!

haha, there are 30 and 40 year olds around these parts too.

 

[deathfromabove]

The girl is 2. Chances are she won't even remember it right after you bring her home. Furthermore, it's up to the parent to explain the violence and such in media. If all it takes is a PG-13 movie to damage one's psyche, then I'd say there were bigger problems well before sitting down in that theater.

you must not be a parent. my kid still remembers the first movie he saw in the theatre . 2 year olds remember everything because they have so little to fill their minds up. and trauma can be remembered far after the fact. yes even trauma from a movie. i think you should restrict your comments to subjects you are informed about, sir.

and i didnt say it would scar her for life but will it scare her at the time? probably. might it give a toddler nightmares? maybe. why subject her to that? so someone can be the cool auntie? so they can say "my baby saw the dark knight?" grow up.

and how is a parent to explain the concepts of anarchy,death, and murder to a toddler? and why should they need to? for a batman movie? thats ****ed up and irresponsible if you ask me. kids in diapers that can not read yet have no business in a pg 13 movie. maybe i just place their welfare above mine?

at least pre screen the movie and talk it over with mommy and daddy alright heathFAN?

 

[CaptainClown]

you must not be a parent. my kid still remembers the first movie he saw in the theatre . 2 year olds remember everything because they have so little to fill their minds up. and trauma can be remembered far after the fact. yes even trauma from a movie. i think you should restrict your comments to subjects you are informed about, sir.

and i didnt say it would scar her for life but will it scare her at the time? probably. might it give a toddler nightmares? maybe. why subject her to that? so someone can be the cool auntie? so they can say "my baby saw the dark knight?" grow up.

and how is a parent to explain the concepts of anarchy,death, and murder to a toddler? and why should they need to? for a batman movie? thats ****ed up and irresponsible if you ask me. kids in diapers that can not read yet have no business in a pg 13 movie. maybe i just place their welfare above mine?

at least pre screen the movie and talk it over with mommy and daddy alright?

I remember my parents taking me to batman 89 when I was two.

I also remember freaking out at Joker with a melting make up face cause I had no idea what was going on.
I also remember having nightmares of Joker suffocating me by stapling a pillow to my face and then killing my parents. Ya effects everybody differently I suppose.

 

[Luchastyle]

I remember my parents taking me to batman 89 when I was two.

I also remember freaking out at Joker with a melting make up face cause I had no idea what was going on.
I also remember having nightmares of Joker suffocating me by stapling a pillow to my face and then killing my parents. Ya effects everybody differently I suppose.

yeah. but to be fair, u also had joker fish nightmares.

and yes, it affects everyone differently. like for me, i saw it when i saw two. i don't actually remember seeing it in theatres. but once it came out on vhs i watched it everyday and i acted out the museum scene with joker dancing around and stuff. and i had my killing joke joker shirt (didn't know what killing joke was at the time, but i loved that damn shirt). so yeah...it affects everyone differently. joker didn't scare me. i loved him.

 

[Crook]

you must not be a parent. my kid still remembers the first movie he saw in the theatre . 2 year olds remember everything because they have so little to fill their minds up. and trauma can be remembered far after the fact. yes even trauma from a movie. i think you should restrict your comments to subjects you are informed about, sir.

Yes, let's just be presumptuous once again. I wouldn't be commenting on it if I didn't have experience with it. I was 2 or 3 when I saw my first few horror movies, and I didn't come out traumatized by it. I don't even remember half of them, but of those that I do remember, at best it made me scared. I turned out just fine, and all it took was one simple statement from daddy: it's not real. it's just a movie.

Voila.

Ditto for my 2 nephews, 3 of my older cousins, and most recently my sis. They all turned out just fine.

and how is a parent to explain the concepts of anarchy,death, and murder to a toddler?

How about when they're of age and can actually understand wtf you're saying? That'd be a start.

 

[Marx]

haha, there are 30 and 40 year olds around these parts too.

Hey now, watch it Lucha! I was 8 when I saw B'89 in theaters! SO I'm not that old!

 

[Bat-Mite]

and i didnt say it would scar her for life but will it scare her at the time? probably. might it give a toddler nightmares? maybe. why subject her to that? so someone can be the cool auntie? so they can say "my baby saw the dark knight?" grow up.

When I was a really little kid, I saw Robocop, Batman, and Terminator and didn't have any nightmares about those movies... but I had nightmares about Scooby Doo and Big Bird (my older brother still teases me about that to this day). I didn't find Scooby or Big Bird frightening, but that didn't stop me from having nightmares about them over and over again. What I'm trying to say is, kids are going to have nightmares anyway. Even if she isn't taken to TDK, she's still going to have nightmares over something. And she probably won't have nightmares about TDK at all.

Each kid is different. Some are a lot more sensitive to certain things than others. If this lady feels comfortable with taking the kid to see TDK, I'd say there's probably a reason for that.

 

[CaptainClown]

yeah. but to be fair, u also had joker fish nightmares.

and yes, it affects everyone differently. like for me, i saw it when i saw two. i don't actually remember seeing it in theatres. but once it came out on vhs i watched it everyday and i acted out the museum scene with joker dancing around and stuff. and i had my killing joke joker shirt (didn't know what killing joke was at the time, but i loved that damn shirt). so yeah...it affects everyone differently. joker didn't scare me. i loved him.

Then you really can't assume someone isn't going to be bothered by something, especially if you haven't seen it. Not everyone admits to these kind of fears because of that social expectation to not have them.

 

[Luchastyle]

When I was a really little kid, I saw Robocop, Batman, and Terminator and didn't have any nightmares about those movies... but I had nightmares about Scooby Doo and Big Bird (my older brother still teases me about that to this day). I didn't find Scooby or Big Bird frightening, but that didn't stop me from having nightmares about them over and over again. What I'm trying to say is, kids are going to have nightmares anyway. Even if she isn't taken to TDK, she's still going to have nightmares over something. And she probably won't have nightmares about TDK at all.

Each kid is different. Some are a lot more sensitive to certain things than others. If this lady feels comfortable with taking the kid to see TDK, I'd say there's probably a reason for that.

i had a nightmare about an episode of "the muppet babies" when i was a little kid =( nanny's blob. and my sister would always tease me about it.

 

[deathfromabove]

How about when they're of age and can actually understand wtf you're saying? That'd be a start.

exactly.

thats my point.

thank you.

 

[Crook]

When I was a really little kid, I saw Robocop, Batman, and Terminator and didn't have any nightmares about those movies... but I had nightmares about Scooby Doo and Big Bird (my older brother still teases me about that to this day). I didn't find Scooby or Big Bird frightening, but that didn't stop me from having nightmares about them over and over again. What I'm trying to say is, kids are going to have nightmares anyway. Even if she isn't taken to TDK, she's still going to have nightmares over something. And she probably won't have nightmares about TDK at all.

Each kid is different. Some are a lot more sensitive to certain things than others. If this lady feels comfortable with taking the kid to see TDK, I'd say there's probably a reason for that.

Thank you. Let the parent be a parent. It doesn't sound like they're careless and looks like he/she know what they're doing, so let them at it.

No need to imply any sort of child endangerment here.

 

[Mr. Socko]

2 is pretty young. I'd advise seeing the movie first.


I saw Rumpelstiltskin when I was a little kid and I am still traumatized by it.

 

[Luchastyle]

Then you really can't assume someone isn't going to be bothered by something, especially if you haven't seen it. Not everyone admits to these kind of fears because of that social expectation to not have them.

i know. but i don't think a 2 year old understand social expectations, but a two year old COULD understand the different between movies and tv. and this one appears to. i'm not saying i would take my two year old to see this movie. and i'm not saying i wouldn't. i don't know what kind of two year old i would have. one who can understand simple things, or one who can barely talk and still poops himself. it's from a kid to kid basis. that's all i'm sayin.

 

[CaptainClown]

i know. but i don't think a 2 year old understand social expectations, but a two year old COULD understand the different between movies and tv. and this one appears to. i'm not saying i would take my two year old to see this movie. and i'm not saying i wouldn't. i don't know what kind of two year old i would have. one who can understand simple things, or one who can barely talk and still poops himself. it's from a kid to kid basis. that's all i'm sayin.

Well understanding social expectations and being affected by them are different. Someone understands through example, just like humor. A child doesn't understand somewhat sophisticated jokes and laugh because you (or the older person there laughs) the same can be said about not jumping in a movie. They learn through example but don't understand what they are doing.
Also most people understand the difference between fiction and reality, but they are still affected by it. It is like going to a Haunted House, you know it isn't real but still are affected by it.
If you want to take your kid thats your priority but seeing the movie for the first time with your child and not assessing it first seems careless and under the assumption that your child is ready for it.

 

[halFAN]

shes seen horror movies before, and she likes them. and i didnt mean to start just a ruckus, i just think that its cool that my niece shares the same interest in joker that i had at that same age! also, i didnt say i was taking her to see it for the opening day midnight showing, where i plan to see it first. i just said i was going to take her ,and i do plan on seeing in at least 3 times in theaters. so please, you all are makeing me feel like a terrible person! also, the kid isnt in diapers, shes already starting preschool lessons, and shes very advanced for her age...its not a case of child endagerment people!

 

[Luchastyle]

this should probably just be dropped. it's pretty off topic anyway

 

[deathfromabove]

Thank you. Let the parent be a parent. It doesn't sound like they're careless and looks like he/she know what they're doing, so let them at it.

just curious where do you get this idea from? we dont know anything about them. and i would question anyones judgement who lets someone else take their toddler see a pg13 movie without at least seeing it first.

No need to imply any sort of child endangerment here.

im not implying child endangerment. im questioning the judgement of some "heath andrew ledger" fan who wants to drag her 2 year old neice to a movie clearly not intended for her.

thats all. if you disagree fine but i will say this: there are two types of people in the world. children and parents. and you dont really stop being one until you are the other so i will allow that you dont have a vested interest in these concepts the same way a parent might.

and my son is ten. he has seen... well, you name it at this point. but not when he was 2. and he was a walking talking fully comprehending 2 at that. i just think a toddler is too young for that kind of big screen experience and i would question the judgment of anyone who doesnt think twice about it.

end rant.

 

[Crook]

shes seen horror movies before, and she likes them. and i didnt mean to start just a ruckus, i just think that its cool that my niece shares the same interest in joker that i had at that same age! also, i didnt say i was taking her to see it for the opening day midnight showing, where i plan to see it first. i just said i was going to take her ,and i do plan on seeing in at least 3 times in theaters. so please, you all are makeing me feel like a terrible person! also, the kid isnt in diapers, shes already starting preschool lessons, and shes very advanced for her age...its not a case of child endagerment people!

Pay no mind to it. Like I said earlier, you come off as level-headed so I'm sure you know what you're doing. None of us here have a right to tell you how to parent, and you're certainly more qualified to judge what she can and cannot handle.