LastSunrise1981 said:
From my perspective Cyclops was portrayed very fairly in the first one. He owned Wolverine quite a bit, granted it wasn't as powerful as his comic book counterpart, but to say he wasn't portrayed faithfully in X1 is pushing it quite a bit.
He didn't have to blow Wolverine away to make his point. He established that the X Mansion and the X-Men are his turf, that Wolvering is the outsider and that there are rules he needs to play by if he wants to tag along. And he was confident about knowing where Jean's heart lay. His comment to Wolvie to stay away from his girl was more of a rasberry than an actual warning, although it probably was too. The comment in X2 about "she made a choice and it was you" deserved to end in Scott punching the guy in the face. I mean let's be honest here, was there ever any doubt that she was going to choose someone else? Did Jean even hint to him that she was torn between Scott and Logan? Nope.
And Cyclops managed to handle both situations in a way that was controlled semi-polite. Works for me. The only problem with this is that the Wolverine supporters insist that the audience would rather see a bad-ass rebel, because Cyclops as the nice, principled leader is just boring.
All of his most interesting scenes was in the deleted footage section. But even without those particular enhanced scenes, he still provided some Cyclops moments that aren't to be forgotten(IMO).
Agreed. In some of the extended scenes like the extended bedroom Scene Cyclops really has alot more balls when dealing with Wolverine, and Jean stands up for him, challening Wolverine's notion that she'd being held back by him, and considering how dangerous Cyclops can be, that kind of control is actually a GOOD thing.
Singer, while he admits to not reading the comics much, he did seem to have a grasp on character development and understood the emotion these stories carried. Cyclops in X1 led the team, saved logan and Rogue, saved Rogue and Wolverine on the Liberty Island when he ignored Jean's pleas to wait, and so on and so forth.
This is another scene I found interesting. People kept complaining that Cyclop's orders were being challenged, like Jean insisting she's worried he won't be able to make the shot and asking him to wait. Cyclops, confident that he could make the shot, overruled her and fired anyways - and turned out to be right. Hence a good reminder of why he's the leader and just what a great shot he is.
On another point, someone also insisted that Cyclops was not a good strategist and it was Wolverine who came up with the idea to lift him up / teleport him over to Magneto's machine. And that is also incorrect. Cyclops came up with the idea to use Storm to lift him up so he could get a clearer shot of the machine. When Storm was uncertain she could do it, Wolverine insisted she lift him up instead, the idea being that he's more expendable, and if he overshoots or misses, then at least Cyclops would be around as backup to fire at the machine anyways. At which point Cyclops coordinated the effort and got Jean involved too to help stabilize Wolvie in case Storm's lifting ability was off.
So once again he's shown as bein the leader and team coordinator / strategist. And let's not forget that in the X-Jet he was the on in the captain's chair too.
Xavier- Storm, get Logan a uniform.
Scott- Wait a minute. He's not coming with us is he?
Xavier- Why yes.
Scott- I'm sorry professor but he'll jeporadize the mission.
Logan- Hey, I'm not the one who put a new sun roof in the building.
Scott- NO, you're the one who stabbed Rogue in the chest.
He's clearly a leader here, worried about his group being able to function effectively as a team, and whether Wolverine has what it takes to function in a team environment. All valid concerns. These people trained together for years and suddenly a maverick shows up.
Scott- ::looking down on a Xavier who is in a coma:: If anything happens, I promise I'll take care of them.
This to me was one of the most touching scenes. It clearly establishes Cyclops' burden in life and one which the other chars, certainly the audience can't appreciate up until this point. He's more than a leader, he's Xavier's most trusted, designated heir. Which is another reason why X3 angers me so much. Cyclops is supposed to be a strong character. Not just because of his powers but because of his courage and integrity. Like Xavier, he is not going to say something or keep a promise unless he intends to carry it out. It's foreshadowing the way Xavier tells Magneto that no matter how he intends to fight his war, Xavier will ALWAYS be there. And yet in X3 Cyclops is blown away for no reason, thus taking away his ability to keep this promise, which to me ruins the char's integrity and the whole purpose of this scene. It wasn't supposed to be just idle words!
Jean- Wait!
Scott- JEAN I HAVE TO!!
Jean- Just wait!!
Scott- I have a shot. I'm taking it. ::fires his optic blast into the back of Magneto::
Again, in a moment of doubt, Cyclops overruled her and took the shot. And his shot was perfect and accomplished what he needed to do. Hence why he is the leader and not Jean. He's not above listening to advise, but he knows how to exercise his authority. He knows the limits of what his powers can do, but this was certainlky within those limits and he proved it. Way to go, Cyke!
And also, let's not forget who was the one briefing the X-Men on how to infiltrate Liberty Island. It was Cyclops explaining the foundation, explaining the entry ways, and the way they would sneak onto the island without Magneto knowing they arrived.
He's also the one who figured out and explained Magneto's plan to everyone.
[quote So to say he didn't have enough scenes or wasn't true to form in X1 is a bold face lie.[/quote]
I most heartily agree!!!
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That way Logan can be the background character this time. Yeah I know for some of you "Your just mad. Logan wasn't a hoggup or a dick" fans", him being a background character is a shock.
