Comics Interesting way for Storm or Iceman to fight

[Optic Rage]

I beleive its a cover from her mini.

 

[cardslinger]

I just found it at marvel.com.
It is an alternate cover for Black Panther #18

 

[Optic Rage]

Ah ok.

Its the best picture ive een of her in years.

 

[javon]

Does anyone know about storm using heat because i rarley hear it?

 

[Valechan]

You're really NOT making sense here. "It was his mind, not his body"? So who's body was it? Each character in that story arc travelled in time to specific points in their lives. And if you really paid attention to the reason why Iceman was there, he didn't "gain" any new power in the future version of himself, he was shown the VAST potential that he already has that wasn't currently being used. And regardless of WHEN it was, it still happened to them, because it carried into the next story arc. Mystique still carried her shape shifting scales long after that story arc didn't she?... So why would that be any different than any of the other characters?

Nope, she didn't keep them. She only appeared with the scales in X-Men 106, and then never again. Iceman didn't keep his super-power either afterwards. So, the body of the future Iceman didn't have the usual inhibitions he creates to stop himself from being that powerful, but the regular present-day 616 did, so when he returned to his body, he experienced the power at full level for a while, but soon changed back to what passed for normalcy.

Who said anything about creating ice in space? I said he can SURVIVE in space without oxogen. Did you forget that water/ice is made of hydrogen and oxygen? And besides, there are moons in this solar system completely made of ice.... What's more important though is can STORM survive in space without any breathing equipment?

Ororo might be able to survive in her elemental form, shown in X-Men 98, if she reaches that ultimate potential of hers, she surely could survive.

If Iceman was a "paltry character" he would have been killed off a long time ago don't you think? And, if you think that way, then why would they kill off Phoenix instead of him?

Don't get me started on Jean...

Uh.... Where was Storm when Iceman tried to attack Legion?... On the sidelines with the other characters. Probably begging for mercy on her knees. And why would she send Iceman to do it if she was so powerful?.... Also if you remember that conversation between him and Storm, before he attacked Legion, she did mention how powerful he was becoming, since he gained a new confidence within himself. By the way, if she was doing her job at protecting Magneto from Legion, Xavier wouldn't have died.... - By the Bright Lady - Yeah, right.

When the X-Men arrived, Legion and Magneto were in pure fight. Ororo flew, grabbed Magneto and told Iceman to delay Legion while she took him to safety. She could not fight while carrying Magneto.

Enough with the comparisons... Both are great characters.... Period.

I don't know, Iceman was never one of my faves, I always thought of him as background noise, a character that is just there to fill space. I cannot say he is great.

And again, X-Men 48, he asks her for help. There can't be no comparisons between them, Ororo is far greater

 

[Valechan]

Does anyone know about storm using heat because i rarley hear it?

Ororo once created a "heat bubble" around the Institute in Uncanny 353-354, but perhaps the most significant use of this form of weather was in Uncanny 242, while battling N'Astirh, he had been frozen (by Iceman) and in an instant she created such heat that melted Iceman's construct in seconds.

 

[javon]

Thanks! And is it x-men the 1st series or 2nd? Along with when iceman asked 4 her help was that the first or second series?

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Nope, she didn't keep them. She only appeared with the scales in X-Men 106, and then never again. Iceman didn't keep his super-power either afterwards. So, the body of the future Iceman didn't have the usual inhibitions he creates to stop himself from being that powerful, but the regular present-day 616 did, so when he returned to his body, he experienced the power at full level for a while, but soon changed back to what passed for normalcy.

What do you mean "keep his super powers"? Did he gain any during that time?.. I think not. He is the same person that went into the future as he is today. The only difference is that he used his powers more creatively in he future than he does now. Hopefully Casey's upcoming run will improve on his character and abilities more than how you Iceman haters perceive him.

Ororo might be able to survive in her elemental form, shown in X-Men 98, if she reaches that ultimate potential of hers, she surely could survive.

"Might" is so much different than CAN. She HASN'T reached her full potential, just like Iceman, so don't give me that "it's possible if..." stuff.

Don't get me started on Jean...

Try me....

When the X-Men arrived, Legion and Magneto were in pure fight. Ororo flew, grabbed Magneto and told Iceman to delay Legion while she took him to safety. She could not fight while carrying Magneto.

Uh, which comic were you reading? Everyone was down for the count when Legion did his sonic disruption thing on everyone, and as they were recovering, she asked Iceman to distract him. In doing so, he froze Legion's entire body (not encased him), and brought it back down to everyone. As EVERYONE was congradulating Iceman for the victory, Legion warmed up his body in psionic flame and disabled everyone again. And as they were all disabled, that's when Xavier jumped in front of Legion to protect Magneto just as he was about to stab his psychic hand blade into Magneto's mind... I don't know where you get your information from, because you obviously didn't read the book.

I don't know, Iceman was never one of my faves, I always thought of him as background noise, a character that is just there to fill space. I cannot say he is great.

You probably couldn't, but oh well. Marvel still classified him to be more powerful than Storm... Bottom line.

And again, X-Men 48, he asks her for help. There can't be no comparisons between them, Ororo is far greater

What issue is the X-Men book on right now?.... Oh yeah, close to #190. Get with the times.

 

[javon]

Did u get my pm proffezor x?^^

 

[Valechan]

What do you mean "keep his super powers"? Did he gain any during that time?.. I think not. He is the same person that went into the future as he is today. The only difference is that he used his powers more creatively in he future than he does now. Hopefully Casey's upcoming run will improve on his character and abilities more than how you Iceman haters perceive him.

By "super" powers I mean, powers at the maximum level. He never did anything like he did in the future, because he kept prohibiting himself.

Uh, which comic were you reading? Everyone was down for the count when Legion did his sonic disruption thing on everyone, and as they were recovering, she asked Iceman to distract him. In doing so, he froze Legion's entire body (not encased him), and brought it back down to everyone. As EVERYONE was congradulating Iceman for the victory, Legion warmed up his body in psionic flame and disabled everyone again. And as they were all disabled, that's when Xavier jumped in front of Legion to protect Magneto just as he was about to stab his psychic hand blade into Magneto's mind... I don't know where you get your information from, because you obviously didn't read the book.

Yes I did. Ororo asked Iceman to do that and while he did, she had Magneto in her arms. Look more carefully dude!!! She told him to attack, she had to protect Magneto. When Legion attacked everyone coming out of his "ice shell" she was the only one on her knees, while everyone else was lying down (meaning her psychic resistance is stronger than that of those with her at the time).

And whenever was stated that ICeman needs not breathe??? I asked you this before and still you haven't given me an answer.

And even if we are in 185 currently, it still counts that if it wasn't for her, Iceman would not know how to use his powers in better ways. She teached him, and if he has evolved since, so has she.

Being named an "omega" doesn't qualify someone to be more powerful than somebody else. Iceman could (emphasis con could) do anything with water, but that's just 1 element, Ororo controls the entire FORCES OF NATURE!!!! Her power is far more than his, even at her current level. She just isn't named "Omega" yet (because we all know she will be eventually, the signs are all there)

 

[javon]

Sebita which is the issue with storms elemental form? U gave the issue but what series 1 or 2? And about iceman asking her for help, which series, 1 or 2?

 

[toya thegr8]

Gotta respect Sebita yo...

 

[toya thegr8]

Can anyone tell me where this picture is from?


Was it a comic book cover or what? I LOVE this picture.

Black Panther #18 Turner Variant Cover. It won't be out until this summer.

 

[Valechan]

Sebita which is the issue with storms elemental form? U gave the issue but what series 1 or 2? And about iceman asking her for help, which series, 1 or 2?

What do you mean 1 or 2??? There is "uncanny X-Men" and there is X-Men if I say "X-Men 98" then it's X-Men 98. If I say Uncanny X-Men 98, then it's Uncanny X-Men 98 (even though it didn't have the Uncanny on the cover yet). The Elemental form of ORoro was in X-Men 98.

Thanks toya

 

[javon]

When i look at the x-men series they say this: X-men (1st series) #6 or whatever. But u just said x-men 98 so i dont knnow which one ur talking about. But ill go check.

 

[HandOfFate]

When i look at the x-men series they say this: X-men (1st series) #6 or whatever. But u just said x-men 98 so i dont knnow which one ur talking about. But ill go check.

He talking about the X-Men series that been running since the 1990, not the one that been out since 1960.

 

[Valechan]

The one some refers to as (1) is Uncanny, because it was just X-Men until issue 142, when it became Uncanny X-Men. The other one (2) has been X-Men since its inception (though it had a paltry 40 issue period where it was called "New X-Men", how can a series with 113 issues be caled New is beyond me...)

 

[javon]

so yourm say its "x-men (2nd series) #98?"

 

[Gilpesh]

Stop with the Iceman hate. Just cause you do not like him or do not care for him does not change his power level. Also we get it already about Storm being powerful but Iceman is just as powerful as her. And seeing as she is not Omega level and Iceman is, that means someone with some weight in Marvel said Iceman is stronger than Storm. But Storm so far has shown better control. She could possibly beat Iceman but the thing is that Iceman will probably survive the ordeal to fight again.

 

[Valechan]

Thing is, even if Bobby is an Omega, he can only control 1 element. Ororo controls all the forces of nature. In terms of raw power she wins because she has so much more at her disposal than he does. This has to be understood.

And yes, javon... X-Men 98 it's X-Men (2nd series) 98, but NO ONE uses the 2nd series. Everyone knows that X-Men (1st series) 98 is Uncanny X-Men 98.

 

[javon]

Oh, thnx. And Gilpesh, everyone got over all of that storm vs. iceman crap long ago. You just brought it back up. But i guess this is your first time seeing this thread,lol.

 

[Intheknow101]

Stop with the Iceman hate. Just cause you do not like him or do not care for him does not change his power level. Also we get it already about Storm being powerful but Iceman is just as powerful as her. And seeing as she is not Omega level and Iceman is, that means someone with some weight in Marvel said Iceman is stronger than Storm. But Storm so far has shown better control. She could possibly beat Iceman but the thing is that Iceman will probably survive the ordeal to fight again.

Word. Storm hasn't even shown better control than Iceman. Iceman has shown better control with his ice and manipulation of cold than anything Storm can do.

 

[javon]

OKAY! Now if some storm fan were to say this , some iceman fan would be like "thats why people don't like storm, because everyone thinks she's the best" and all that crap. And like i said before, everyone has been over that arguing crap, u guys probably came a little too late but nobody hardly comes on here to argue anymore.

 

[HandOfFate]

OKAY! Now if some storm fan were to say this , some iceman fan would be like "thats why people don't like storm, because everyone thinks she's the best" and all that crap. And like i said before, everyone has been over that arguing crap, u guys probably came a little too late but nobody hardly comes on here to argue anymore.

Thank You, Javon.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

This will continue to be a big debate for a very long time. And as I said before, both are great characters, so let's just leave it at that. Although Storm couldn't melt into any element she can conjur like this:

And for those Storm fans that doubted if he could be at one with an arctic enviromnent, here is your proof.