Interstellar - Part 6

[Deserana]

If the IMAX trailer is anything to go by shot selections doesnt look like a worry for me.

 

[Jheri Curl]

Can we get a direct comparison between Interstellar and The Dark Knight in overall quality?

 

[shauner111]

I still wish Batman would have died with the bomb. Would have been more fitting and fulfilling of an ending...

No. I would have been extremely disappointed.

PTA also made Magnolia, the greatest student film of all time. So he's not the be all authority on movies for me.

What a joke statement.

 

[Oneironaut]

He said the score was incredible, the set design was fantastic, and the effects were fantastic. He said like DiCaprio in Inception, he feels MM does a fantastic job, but it isn't the kind of performance that will get serious Oscar push. He also said he'd rank it fifth so far of the films he's seen this year. (Inherent Vice, Birdman, Foxcatcher and Boyhood being his top four). I didn't ask about anything plot related because I'm avoiding spoilers. The only negative he said was 'shot selection choices were sort of boring', which sounds like it's typical Nolan in that category. So nothing worries me by that comment.

I mean you no disrespect, but is there any chance your friend is full of it? t:

 

[DeadPresident]

I don't quite understand people wanting Batman to have died. The way it ended made a lot more sense, and stayed true to how Batman isn't always necessarily Bruce Wayne in the source material. The symbol is the whole point.

Nolan ended it in a way that kept the symbol alive, and gave Bruce respite.

 

[Deserana]

Exactly. Frankly I hate it when you spend such a long time with a character only to get a downer ending. Its why I dont understand why people want either Luke, Han or Leia to get offed early in Ep7. Why go through a characters entire journey just for them to get killed.

Same reason I hope the crew in Interstellar get a somewhat decent ending but I dont think Nolan has done a bad ending yet.

 

[kvz5]

Exactly. Frankly I hate it when you spend such a long time with a character only to get a downer ending. Its why I dont understand why people want either Luke, Han or Leia to get offed early in Ep7. Why go through a characters entire journey just for them to get killed.

Same reason I hope the crew in Interstellar get a somewhat decent ending but I dont think Nolan has done a bad ending yet.

I was just thinking about this. For all the flak Nolan gets for being a "cold" director, the guy is a sucker for happy endings so the ending of TDKR wasn't really much of a surprise. I have issues with TDKR but I was happy that Bruce lived.

 

[DeadPresident]

Same. Nolan seems quite fond of ambiguous endings that accommodate an either/or dynamic with the story. It'll be interesting to see if that happens with Interstellar. Inception and TDKR both had endings which could potentially be argued both ways.

There are some endings where I feel like the hero dying serves the narrative better, but I don't feel like TDKR is an example. Him dying or the "real" way the movie ended both relieve Bruce of his burden of being Batman, but the movie's ending makes it enjoyable for the audience. Except for a select few people knowing who Batman was it would have served no narrative purpose for him to die, he would've been a martyr to like 4 people.

Interstellar looks like it'll be very concerned with making the audience feel invested in the arcs of the main characters, I'm pretty sure Nolan will go with a "good" ending for it.

 

[Travesty]

For the most part, he's good at endings. For how mediocre I think TDK is, I always liked the ending...until TDKR came out, and now that I know what really happened in the story, I think the ending in TDK is pretty bad. And I also think the ending for TDKR is a relentless amount of dumb twists after twists, and it just ends up being ridiculous.

But aside from his last two Batman movies, I think he does a good job at his endings.

 

[jmc]

I still remember the collective sound of shock from the audience I was with when I saw Inception. I've never been in an audience where an ending produced that type of reaction before, just the massive chorus of 'What?' and 'No!' lol.

 

[weezerspider]

I mean you no disrespect, but is there any chance your friend is full of it? t:

Zero chance. I'd rather not give out exact details, but he has worked with Nolan on three films, including Interstellar. The only reason he wouldn't have seen it by now is by his own choice.

Also, he bashes (as do I) plenty of films he's worked on so I wouldn't call him biased. I'll be the first to admit I've worked on some **** films too.

 

[weezerspider]

Can we get a direct comparison between Interstellar and The Dark Knight in overall quality?

If you are talking to me, I'm pretty sure he would take TDK over it as he sees TDK as Nolan's ultimate achievement.

 

[Warhammer]

For the most part, he's good at endings. For how mediocre I think TDK is, I always liked the ending...until TDKR came out, and now that I know what really happened in the story, I think the ending in TDK is pretty bad. And I also think the ending for TDKR is a relentless amount of dumb twists after twists, and it just ends up being ridiculous.

But aside from his last two Batman movies, I think he does a good job at his endings.

Wow, I never really thought about that until just now. Now that ending is ruined unless I pretend TDKR doesn't exist...which I sometimes do.

 

[Donut]

If you are talking to me, I'm pretty sure he would take TDK over it as he sees TDK as Nolan's ultimate achievement.

Ah another one of those my friend type thing on this forum. We never get that type of stuff before

 

[speakerzboomin]

He said the score was incredible, the set design was fantastic, and the effects were fantastic. He said like DiCaprio in Inception, he feels MM does a fantastic job, but it isn't the kind of performance that will get serious Oscar push. He also said he'd rank it fifth so far of the films he's seen this year. (Inherent Vice, Birdman, Foxcatcher and Boyhood being his top four). I didn't ask about anything plot related because I'm avoiding spoilers. The only negative he said was 'shot selection choices were sort of boring', which sounds like it's typical Nolan in that category. So nothing worries me by that comment.

Interesting. Did he mention how

Spoiler

the pacing or the story overall is?

On a side note, I'm new here, hello everyone!

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Hey look, it's a passive aggressive donut.

 

[weezerspider]

Ah another one of those my friend type thing on this forum. We never get that type of stuff before

I could not care less if you believe me. Last time I checked, most of these 'my friend' stories involve scenes of Bane eating with his mask off and other outlandish claims. I'm not trying to claim I know more about the film than any of you, nor do I want to. I'm simply saying my friend saw it and he liked it. I'm not gonna ask him a bunch of questions for the board or any of that **** because I want to know as little as possible about this film going into it. I don't really know why someone who make up such a thing only to have literally nothing substantial to tell the forum, but believe what you want.

 

[Mysteryman]

He said the score was incredible, the set design was fantastic, and the effects were fantastic. He said like DiCaprio in Inception, he feels MM does a fantastic job, but it isn't the kind of performance that will get serious Oscar push. He also said he'd rank it fifth so far of the films he's seen this year. (Inherent Vice, Birdman, Foxcatcher and Boyhood being his top four). I didn't ask about anything plot related because I'm avoiding spoilers. The only negative he said was 'shot selection choices were sort of boring', which sounds like it's typical Nolan in that category. So nothing worries me by that comment.

Sounds Great.

 

[Tequilla]

If the IMAX trailer is anything to go by shot selections doesnt look like a worry for me.

I imagine its more of a simple camera setup situation , that Nolan tends do adhere. And from what i remember , he even said that he wanted this sort of documentary style , so im not expecting some crazy camera movements most of the time.

 

[redhawk23]

I don't quite understand people wanting Batman to have died. The way it ended made a lot more sense, and stayed true to how Batman isn't always necessarily Bruce Wayne in the source material. The symbol is the whole point.

Nolan ended it in a way that kept the symbol alive, and gave Bruce respite.

Because the film tries to have its cake and eat it too. Story-telling wise it gains nothing from Bruce living. They symbol thing works even better if he had, as Batman lives on even as Bruce Wayne dies.

 

[redhawk23]

I still remember the collective sound of shock from the audience I was with when I saw Inception. I've never been in an audience where an ending produced that type of reaction before, just the massive chorus of 'What?' and 'No!' lol.

Hilariously and honestly, I heard a similar reaction at the end of Desolation of Smaug from people who didn't realize there was going to be a third installment. There were a lot of f-bombs dropped as well.

 

[Tequilla]

Because the film tries to have its cake and eat it too. Story-telling wise it gains nothing from Bruce living. They symbol thing works even better if he had, as Batman lives on even as Bruce Wayne dies.

But Bruce dying contradicts everything we had seen before , in the previous movie. Him dying would be his choice , don't forget it.

If he died like in a crash of the Tumbler , that would be slightly different and have a whole new meaning t:

 

[redhawk23]

But Bruce dying contradicts everything we had seen before , in the previous movie. Him dying would be his choice , don't forget it.

If he died like in a crash of the Tumbler , that would be slightly different and have a whole new meaning t:

Eh, Batman giving up for the better part of a decade already did that.

"We will chase him, because he can take it."

...until he decides to just call it quits.

 

[Tequilla]

Eh, Batman giving up for the better part of a decade already did that.

"We will chase him, because he can take it."

...until he decides to just call it quits.

TDK Rises discussions play exactly like the Godfather 3 scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[YT]UPw-3e_pzqU[/YT]

t:

 

[BatLobster]

The whole point of TDKR is that Bruce finally regains the fear of death and the will to live. Him choosing to live at the end made that idea resonate so much more than it would've if he had just died like everyone expected him to. Bruce was willing to die a hero's death, even craving one, in the first half of the movie. If that's what he chooses at the end you essentially erase the whole character arc the movie had built for him. The funny thing is I'll bet anything that if he died, some of the same people saying he should've died would've been saying "You just don't kill Batman!" and holding that against the movie.

I was just thinking about this. For all the flak Nolan gets for being a "cold" director, the guy is a sucker for happy endings so the ending of TDKR wasn't really much of a surprise. I have issues with TDKR but I was happy that Bruce lived.

Hmm, I'm not so sure about that. If you think about it...

Memento- Dark, twisted ending
Begins- Standard superhero 'happy' ending
Insomnia- Kinda sad but inevitable ending
The Prestige- Dark, twisted ending
TDK- Dark, but inspiring ending
Inception- Seemingly happy ending, with a large dose of ambiguity
TDKR- A seemingly sad ending morphs into a towering triumphant ending with notes of bittersweet.

I think only BB and TDKR really have actual happy endings. Personally I do think Cobb is in reality with his kids at the end of Inception, but that last shot does alter the takeaway feeling and surrounding discussion of that ending. It'll be interesting to see where Interstellar falls on this spectrum with its ending.