Interstellar - Part 8

[zeroapoc]

So the guy they left behind on the spacecraft while they visited the time-dilated planet had 23 years worth of food with him?

Pretty good film. But this had me chuckling a bit.

 

[Mysteryman]

If necessary , He could go to "sleep" for a few years ,

 

[Snow Queen]

what are the differences between the final movie to the initial jonah's script?

A handful that I can recall:

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they were led to nasa by a probe they found, all the bookshelf and dust message stuff was new.

I believe i recall tars and case being humanoid.

There were aliens that joined together to form larger organisms. On the ice planet, if memory serves.

There was no dr. Mann. The...i can't recall if it was a person or robot, but the person/robot they found there was from an old chinese mission with this same purpose. They had conflict with it as well.

Rather than the whole bookshelf thing, cooper sent the probe from earlier to earth.

There was a sex scene between cooper and brand.

Murph was a boy and had a smaller role.

I don't believe that caine's brand had that reveal, seeing as murph had a reduced role.

Pretty sure i remember cooper meeting not murph or tom but one of their children at the end of their life. I think that was it...can't recall exactly, the last act is where things get fuzzy for me with the differences.

The love stuff wasn't really present.

I seem to remember the ending being just cooper and tars going out for adventure rather than going back to brand on the planet...not so sure about that though, as i said, my memory gets fuzzy as it gets to the end of the script.

snow queen gave some big ones here, and i will detail a few more that i can remember:



One thing that i kinda missed was a subplot from the ice planet they came across, the one with upside down mountains.

Spoiler

they found a little self-forming alien there, that could evolve at rapid speed but it never evolved past a certain age because its sun would fry it. In the early script, cooper ended up accidentally letting it go on an icy planet without a frying sun...that ended up being a decimated earth after the humans leave.

it read as really cute in the script, which is why i kind of missed it.




The biggest improvement was the change of agents in the second/third act.

Spoiler

the early script went in detail about how the "plan a" gravity machine is made. Turns out there was a secret chinese space station in the bulk (in the wormhole), using robots to make the machine. They took hundreds of years to develop it, but because it's in the bulk, time is of no essence. Cooper and brand simply come across it, take its specs, put it in the probe, then send it across the black hole back to earth, which old cooper finds (yes, it leads him to nasa don't remember how) and murph's son (yup, murph's son) later figures out. The script actually shows cooper's grandson actually performing the pivotal gravity experiments. At the end of the movie, cooper actually meets his great-grandson or something like that. He never sees murph again, and never meets his grandson.

Like snow queen said, there's no dr. Mann, but there is a chinese robot that impersonates one of their own robots (just following its directives to protect the space station in the bulk) and causes trouble like dr. Mann does.

Oh, and the "they" who made the wormhole are not future humans, but gravity-bending aliens that simply want humans to live, for whatever reason. It's not explained, they just are kind of there. Amelia communicates with them by throwing bbs in the air and they communicate mos-style via the shapes they make.

i'm really glad chris simplified those parts, there were just too many random agents coming in mid-movie for that. The script wasn't that good imo, because of that. I was like, At the people who raved about the script, haha. Chris somehow turned it on itself like he does in all his films. The first shot really reminded me of the prestige for that reason.




the whole bit about love is also not in the script.

Spoiler

amelia's reasons for going are not spelled out. There is no edmunds that she is in love with and wants to see again. And yes, cooper and brand do bone in the script and it's pretty effin' random. But like in the film, cooper leaves with tars to see her again.

although in the film, the focus is more on cooper's explorer nature than anything else.



the additional focus on murph in the film, i actually liked a lot. Even though the big realization is kind of cheesy, but there's a lot of parental legacy that i really liked.

Spoiler

it's kind of incidental in the script, that the probe is found to be important by murph and his son. Whereas in the film, cooper chooses her to be the recipient of his messages.

Iirc, the space station in the script is named after the elder cooper, not murph. The fact that they named it after her in the film, i liked a lot. And not just because i'm a woman in stem. She also doesn't continue working with the elder brand, iirc. I think the grandson figures most of that out in their barn. Again, kind of random.

those are the really big differences that i recall.

All in all, it's certainly not a typical sort of blockbuster film - that's why it feels a lot like 2001 or gravity to me, in that it's more of a journey or experience. But i really appreciate how optimistic it is. It assumes that people do find ways together to survive, and not that humans are destined to nuke each other before becoming extremely advanced.

re: Script/film differences -

you got most right but iirc

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the implication at the end in the script was also that cooper was going to find brand. Brand made him promise to go look for her when they were about to part ways. Or at least that's what i remembered. The script and the film are blending together in my head now.

And yeah... Cooper only met his great, great grandson.

The ones helping out/sending messages in the wormhole are aliens.

Personally, i thought brand was more emotional/erratic in the film. Also, the way the other crew members died changed.

For some reason it just turned a lot of the capitals into lower case letters. Not sure why.

 

[zeroapoc]

If necessary , He could go to "sleep for a few years ,

Well they addressed that. He said he did a couple of short naps. But then decided they were never coming back and didn't want to dream his life away and stayed awake.

Like I said I like the film. This was just a little detail I kinda went WTF over.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Just saw Neil Degrasse Tyson's tweets. He was pretty much promoting the film in half his tweets haha, but I got a kick out of knowing he really loved it.

 

[Mr.T]

I really enjoyed the movie. It didn't quite hit me where I came away totally amazed, which is what I was hoping for. Still a great movie. 7.5/10 for me.

My only problem, the whole tesseract thing and how "they" supposedly created it (we know who "they" really are by the end). Now I get Nolan was supposedly going for the time exists on a plane, not on a line, but it still just doesn't sit in my brain well. Effect can happen before the cause just short circuits me to no end....

Good movie, worth the price of admission.

 

[Brother Jack]

I saw it yesterday I loved it all the main cast was on point, this is also the first film I saw with Jessica in it, I really dug her performance and would see more of her stuff. Oh and is it just me or does young Murph look like Jane Levy?

I thought that as well. She looks like she could be her little sister.

 

[Mysteryman]

Just saw Neil Degrasse Tyson's tweets. He was pretty much promoting the film in half his tweets haha, but I got a kick out of knowing he really loved it.

Well, he does make the point in one of his tweets that he offers no opinions on new movies.
He just talks about the science or lack thereof .
He seemed to like the way they demonstrated Gravitational forces in space .
He also liked that the film had two women who were scientists.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I would love for Nolan to go really dark...Devil in The White City.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Nolan's career is going just fine.

Word! Keep it together, crazies.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

No crazies. Just Rocketman.

 

[Brother Jack]

I would love for Nolan to go really dark...Devil in The White City.

You say that like Nolan hasn't gone dark before. All of his films have darkness in them. There are scenes in this movie that are profoundly tragic. The one that affected me the most was when Cooper watches the sent video messages after coming back from the first planet, watching his son's entire life unfold without him and knowing that his children now think he abandoned them. Incredibly sad stuff.

And of course there are his other films. Memento, The Prestige, and The Dark Knight are all very dark stories. Parts of Dark Knight Rises are as well.

 

[DarthDorranceBane]

Nolan why did you left out the sex scene!

 

[Snow Queen]

^ Because it was horrible.

 

[titansupes]

I would love for Nolan to go really dark...Devil in The White City.

I've heard so many people recommend this as a Nolan movie over the last couple of years. I'm going to have to look into it.

 

[Anita18]

Well they addressed that. He said he did a couple of short naps. But then decided they were never coming back and didn't want to dream his life away and stayed awake.

Like I said I like the film. This was just a little detail I kinda went WTF over.

Well, he MUST have decided they were going to come back eventually because [blackout]he didn't just leave them and go on toward the other two planets. He did have the frozen embryos on Endurance to colonize a planet with.[/blackout]

I just figured that he set the cryopod on a timer or set it to wake him up when the scout ship redocked.


I had a hard time deciding whether it was supposed to be a funny moment or not. He seemed pretty calm and deadpan about the whole thing. But it could also be chalked up to how space works - it doesn't care about how you feel, it just is. It's just reality.

 

[Brother Jack]

I thought he might go crazy and try to kill them after that, but he seemed very well adjusted considering he was alone for 23 years.

 

[Anita18]

I thought he might go crazy and try to kill them after that, but he seemed very well adjusted considering he was alone for 23 years.

I think having a talking, hopefully-sarcastic (forgot whether it was Tars or Case) robot with him helped.

Part of the reason why I think [blackout]Dr. Mann[/blackout] went crazy is because he [blackout]sabotaged his robot early on, when he discovered he had to forge his data,[/blackout] and had absolutely no one to talk to after that. There's been research that shows elderly people can think of robots as human companions, if the alternative is being completely alone.

 

[antsman41]

Yeah, i hope Nolan does something in the thriller/horror area next. He's shown a side of that once and awhile; Mal attacking Cobb, Mann's accident with the space shuttle, some of the things Angier does...

 

[bullets]

The biggest holy s*** moment in my theater was when

Spoiler

Dr.Mann's little shuttle blows up when he's opening the hatch.

I legitimately jumped out of my seat. The other [BLACKOUT]deaths [/BLACKOUT] also seemed very sudden.

 

[DA_Champion]

I legitimately jumped out of my seat. The other [BLACKOUT]deaths [/BLACKOUT] also seemed very sudden.

Me three.

 

[craigdbfan]

Spoiler

I feel so bad for Romilly. Poor guy was waiting for the rest of his crewmates for 23 years with a few odd cryo naps here and there and then had the pleasure of getting blown up in Mann's ****hole of a planet.

Another reason why I'm not a fan of the Mann sequence. Romilly dying was another uneccessary part of that whole arc in the movie. That's probably my biggest complaint of the movie.

 

[Dave McFly]

I also liked the humor of the robot TARS

 

[ThePhantasm]

Just saw it. I have to say the visuals and acting were great. But that was about it. Probably Nolan's worst film. It just got too ridiculous at the end.

Maybe my expectations were too high going in... I dunno. But I felt let down.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Spoiler

2nd Nolan film where a character gets blown up mid-sentence.