The Dark Knight Is The Joker Hype reaching ridiculously high expectations?

[Hole Shot]

Leo dosent have what it takes to be The Joker, I for one WOULD NOT take him seriously.

I could have said the same thing about Heath Ledger two years ago.

 

[inflames]

I'd put my money on DDL

 

[fear&loathing]

ddl would never have any interest to play the joker. not his type of movie, he's a real serious actor. unless the script was the most amazing thing to come along and land in his lap (which im sure great things have and will continue to).

 

[SheldonLevene]

ddl would never have any interest to play the joker. not his type of movie, he's a real serious actor. unless the script was the most amazing thing to come along and land in his lap (which im sure great things have and will continue to).

That and he has too much respect for Ledger. I don't think he would feel it appropriate to take over under such circumstances.

 

[SheldonLevene]

I don't go over to BoF and I don't care what Jett has to say either.

Your missing my point.

I agree DDL is one of the best actors in the business.

What I have been saying is, ever since people started talking about possible recasts(on these boards at least, I don't go to any others)after Heath's death, DDL's name has been brought up in typical fanboy fashion.

If he had never made There Will Be Blood most of the fanboys wouldn't have thought to pick him.

It's the typical fanboy thing of picking who's "hot" for whatever roles are being discussed.

Like I said already, before There Will Be Blood was out and before they had announced Heath would be playing Joker no one mentioned DDL as a possible Joker.

It's only since he won the Oscar and fans started talking about replacements was he getting picked as one. If he hadn't made There Will Be Blood and fans were speculating on who could replace Heath...I doubt DDL's name would have came up.

I actually thought he was better in Gangs, so this doesn't really hold true (for me at least), that and I don't think he is right for it.

 

[Crook]

I ****ing guarantee that if Daniel Day-Lewis hadn't done There Will Be Blood(and won the Oscar) all these fanboys wouldn't be picking him for a possible replacement.

Try to be a little more original guys...stay away from the things that are considered stereotypes of fanboys...even though most are true.

DDL was actually a popular choice for Ra's, back in the day.

There Will Be Blood was hardly what caught people's attentions. I'd say for the modern audience (i.e. teens and young adults), it was actually his role in Gangs of NY that lured people to his side. His latest movie and Oscar just brought him back to the forefront after a hiatus.

 

[adamwe]

The hype around Ledger is so ridiculous. It will be interesting to see how professional critics will be. Ledger is not the greatest actor that has ever graced Hollywood. Are they gonna based his performace on emotions and sympathy factor?

I based it on Michael Caine's evaluation of his performance before Heath's passed away. He raved about the performance.

 

[adamwe]

ddl would never have any interest to play the joker. not his type of movie, he's a real serious actor. unless the script was the most amazing thing to come along and land in his lap (which im sure great things have and will continue to).

Wasn't Heath's type of movie either.

 

[ironbeast90]

Wasn't Heath's type of movie either.

*ahem A Knights Tale...Lords of Dogtown cough cough

nevertheless, Id prefer it if Heaths Joker was never replaced in the third movie. I want to remember the Dark Knight as being the iconic 'joker movie' and the third as the 'Two Face finale'.

 

[super17]

I ****ing guarantee that if Daniel Day-Lewis hadn't done There Will Be Blood(and won the Oscar) all these fanboys wouldn't be picking him for a possible replacement.

Try to be a little more original guys...stay away from the things that are considered stereotypes of fanboys...even though most are true.

I must disagree. I was a fan of DDL even before There Will Be Blood hit the theaters. And I'm sure many others are the same way.

 

[Phaser]

There Will Be Blood was hardly what caught people's attentions. I'd say for the modern audience (i.e. teens and young adults), it was actually his role in Gangs of NY that lured people to his side.

Yup. When I saw the real DDL in one of the making of documentaries for Gangs of New York, I was shocked, thinking "this guy played Bill the Butcher?! I must see more of his films now." After watching My Left Foot, In The Name of the Father, Age of Innocence and There Will Be Blood, I can say with utmost confidence that not only will DDL nail any freakin' role he is offered, he's going to smash it in so hard he'll bloody break the goddamn nail itself.

 

[Zohan Dvir]

DDL was actually a popular choice for Ra's, back in the day.

There Will Be Blood was hardly what caught people's attentions. I'd say for the modern audience (i.e. teens and young adults), it was actually his role in Gangs of NY that lured people to his side. His latest movie and Oscar just brought him back to the forefront after a hiatus.

I always remembered him from Last of the Mohicans.

 

[batman_1982]

*ahem A Knights Tale...Lords of Dogtown cough cough

In defense here, heath was quoted as saying he didn't like comic book movies.

 

[fabman]

Yeah, and... I don't know what's so bad about A Knight's Tale? It's a fun flick, I've always enjoyed it, and I think that movie is the reason why Paul Bettany was rumored for the Joker.

Think about it, maybe someone was told that the Knight's Tale dude was in talks to play the Joker, but of course nobody thought of Heath Ledger, but Paul Bettany... and that's how the Paul Bettany rumor spread. I dunno, it's possible that this could be what happened, or not?

 

[JayCaz]

I personally have been a big fan of DDL since movies like Name of the Father, My Left Foot & The Boxer. I think he could easily play the Joker, but I'd see him in more of a 'Dark Knight Returns' type role, a little older, wiser, more refined than Heath's maniacal fresh young Joker. I think he's the best of the bunch if anyone does take over from Heath in a 3rd movie though.

Unless they use special effects and have Gary Oldman play two characters!!!

 

[SheldonLevene]

It is times such as these when I wish TDK was filmed back to back with BB3. Then, who is to say Heath wouldn't still be alive and giving us yet another great prefomance. Obviously just a dream, but none the less.

 

[fabman]

I know what you mean, Sheldon... but the "what if" doesn't really make sense... You know, there could have been so many things which would have prevented Heath to die... if...

 

[SheldonLevene]

I know what you mean, Sheldon... but the "what if" doesn't really make sense... You know, there could have been so many things which would have prevented Heath to die... if...

I know. It sucks.

 

[Negative Creep]

I personally have been a big fan of DDL since movies like Name of the Father, My Left Foot & The Boxer. I think he could easily play the Joker, but I'd see him in more of a 'Dark Knight Returns' type role, a little older, wiser, more refined than Heath's maniacal fresh young Joker. I think he's the best of the bunch if anyone does take over from Heath in a 3rd movie though.

Unless they use special effects and have Gary Oldman play two characters!!!

I like the way you think

 

[Hole Shot]

*ahem A Knights Tale...Lords of Dogtown cough cough

Lords of Dogtown was presented as an Indy flick about a subculture movement that began in the 70's. I'd hardly compare it to A Knight's Tale.

 

[Negative Creep]

Lords of Dogtown was presented as an Indy flick about a subculture movement that began in the 70's. I'd hardly compare it to A Knight's Tale.

Exactly. And Ledger was 22 when he made A Knight's Tale. Young actors on the rise in Hollywood can't pick and choose. They have to take what comes their way. I think it's pretty clear now how talented and dedicated Ledger was to his work and his credibility shouldn't be questioned.

This reminds of an interview with Ledger I saw on thedailyshow.com from when he was promoting AKT. He was so fidgety, uncomfortable and seemed "lost" in a way. It was disturbing to watch knowing what we know now.

 

[fabman]

Just saw the video on thedailyshow.com. That was an awkard interview.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I could have said the same thing about Heath Ledger two years ago.

Im glad you could have, cause I didnt, I waited until I saw a pic, heard his Joker voice and saw some footage. I just dont like Leo that much, theres only a small handful of his films that I actually enjoy his acting in.

 

[Negative Creep]

Just saw the video on thedailyshow.com. That was an awkard interview.

Yep. I don't think Heath was on the same wavelength with Stewart either. He's all about irony/sarcasm and that doesn't seem like something Ledger is comfortable with.

BTW, you should see Jon's interview with the Spice Girls on that site. Now that one is "funny uncomfortable"

 

[fabman]

Personally, I was excited when Latinoreview broke the news that Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker. I really liked the idea of him playing the role. I don't know, it must have been his performances in Brokeback Mountain, Monster's Ball. I also thought he could pull off such a crazy role because of Brothers Grimm. So for me there wasn't even the need to see something of him as the Joker. I felt it was perfect casting.