James Cameron's Sequel to "AVATAR" - Part 1

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Nah it's mostly just something people who have a certain opinion use to argue the opposing position without being constructive

"I didn't like_____"
"You're just a hater"

Over and over again

And I obviously know what language is. You don't have to define it. It comes off as condescending. Language can be used in wrong ways too
 
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I wonder what type of new creatures we can expect to see for the sequels

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I loved Avatar when I first saw it. I like it less now but it's still a good movie.
Obviously it had detractors since it's release but idk to me it just seems like the cool thing to do to not like Avatar in the nerd/fanboy community

However I do think that the movie is largely forgotten and, despite it's large box office returns, isn't really what I consider a pop culture staple. In my mind something that is a pop culture staple is something that is parodied, referenced a lot, toys still very popular etc. OR at the very least it is talked about a lot.
I dont see any of that with Avatar except in reference to 3D filmmaking.

Agreed. The movie was undoubtedly a phenomenon, but it was a very brief phenomenon it seems. I just never see anyone bringing up Avatar in conversation. Everyone saw the movie, but no one really cares right now.

I do think the GA will care about it again when the sequels come out though.
 
I loved Avatar when I first saw it. I like it less now but it's still a good movie.
Obviously it had detractors since it's release but idk to me it just seems like the cool thing to do to not like Avatar in the nerd/fanboy community

However I do think that the movie is largely forgotten and, despite it's large box office returns, isn't really what I consider a pop culture staple. In my mind something that is a pop culture staple is something that is parodied, referenced a lot, toys still very popular etc. OR at the very least it is talked about a lot.
I dont see any of that with Avatar except in reference to 3D filmmaking.




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Same boat.
 
Peter Jackson not giving them enough time and changing things at the last minute?
Doubt it.
Granted i haven't seen the EE of Hobbit so i have no idea if Jackson went all out just like he did on ROTK but i don't think time really was an issue because they spend close to a year on the VFX and unlike with ROTK weta managed to handle 3 movies for the year ( Godzilla, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and Hobbit)

Peter Jackson not giving them enough time and changing things at the last minute?
Could be. Cameron planned everything in advance and essentially delived pretty much the entire movie in low rez CG to WETA in order to animate the sots along with tons of refence footage from multiple angles.
 
Doubt it.
Granted i haven't seen the EE of Hobbit so i have no idea if Jackson went all out just like he did on ROTK but i don't think time really was an issue because they spend close to a year on the VFX and unlike with ROTK weta managed to handle 3 movies for the year ( Godzilla, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and Hobbit)

No, really. It's pretty common knowledge he constantly changed designs on them at the last minute.
 
Watch any of the Hobbit production vlogs. You'll see where they mention working on CGI up until the very last minute.
 
Not sure if it has been posted yet

http://****************.com/movies/avatar-2-will-see-sigourney-weaver-play-a-brand-new-character/

I hope she doesn't play a human character.

Cameron sure is taking a long time with these scripts, if he still wants the 2017 planned date, he need to start filming fast.

He used to say that he wanted the Avatar Sequels to be stand-alone movies each, anyone thinks he will change that idea, like so many others in Hollywood, and make all three into a single story?
 
Not sure if it has been posted yet



Cameron sure is taking a long time with these scripts, if he still wants the 2017 planned date, he need to start filming fast.

Yeah, I think he said last fall that he was hoping to start in the first quarter this year. Well, we're already in mid-April. More delays surely is starting to look like a possibility. If he hasn't started when summer's over then I think the 2017 release date is in serious doubt.
 
Just for comparison, Cameron announced Avatar 1 in August of 1996. In 1999 he decided technology wasn't where it needed to be to realize his vision. He didn't show 20th Century Fox the first proof of concept clip until 2005. And the film didn't hit theaters until 2009.

And Avatar 2 isn't moving much faster. He announced he was making a sequel 2010. Pre-production didn't begin until 2014. Here we are in 2015 and shooting hasn't begun and the release date is 2017.

So at this point I don't expect this film until at least 2020.
 
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if they start filming at the end of 2015 they would have less than 2 years for post production. this project is huge and they are every 6 months creating new technology.

if the post production is rushed the budget will explode. which is normal for a Cameron movie.
 
Didn't he announce sequels some time before the first one even came out?
 
James Cameron Has a Script for Avatar 5

The director is juggling four sequels.

By Lucy O'Brien
Avatar composer James Horner has revealed that James Cameron is currently juggling four screenplays in the quest to create three sequels to his 2009 sci-fi film.
"Right now Jim has... four sequels script-wise, and he’s trying to make it into three," Horner told HeyUGuys. "And that is where his effort is going right now, to keep it to three sequels. Because he’s got so much going on…trying to keep it from expanding into a fifth movie".
Earlier this year, it was revealed that Cameron's ambition to shoot his sequels back-to-back will see a delay in production. The next installment will hit theaters Christmas 2017, a year later than originally planned.
"There's nothing I need to say as an artist about the state of the world and human affairs that I can't do through the lens of the Avatar universe," Cameron said. "We've had a couple of years to think through the story arc of the next three films, and every day that goes by, I believe in the stories I'm telling more and more. We're not coming out of the block fast to capitalize on the last film."
 
Because of the amount of time he's taking to bring the Avatar sequels to the big screen, there's no excuses not to deliver great films here. And they have to be better than the first Avatar.
 
From his previous statements, he seemed to imply that each new sequel would be its oun stand alone film, but from what he's now saying, it seems like they are all going to be a single connected story a la Lord of the Rings. I think that may be overkill, would rather he just did another one shot story and only then went back to planning the following films.
 
The whole idea of him having a script for part 5 recalls a perfect adage:

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Seriously, the only people who are that excited for 4 sequels, is James Cameron..and maybe the Chinese, the latter being a billion people, haha.
 
Avatar may not have much of a following on the net, and a lot of haters, but there's still a vast public that loves it and is ready for more. As long as he doesn't take much more, in least a Billion is a lock.

But yeah, i'm not sure he should be planning to do so much at once.
 
I don't hate Avatar, but it does like Cameron is going through what Robert Zemeckis went through with his motion capture CGI phase: It feels like an obsession.

It's not that he's doing a sequel but 3 (maybe 4) back to back that worries me. Let it breathe. Then again, he's not getting younger, so I guess Battle Angel is DOA at this point.
 
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