Jared Leto IS The Joker - - - - - - Part 15

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Leto's Joker is VERY touchy-feely. Kinda gave me some Javier Bardem in Skyfall vibes.

I love the scene where he slithers around and up to the guard's face, then flashes a smile and hops on his lap face-forward.
 
I very much enjoyed that scene as well. Everything that Leto did, felt like The Joker to me. I never once questioned whether or not that's who I saw on the screen.
 
Leto seems pretty miffed about the situation, if his recent comments are anything to go off of.

Yup, he has every right to be annoyed. I actually want his comments to gain traction so WB could possibly be pressured into releasing some deleted material.
 
“That’s a good question. I have no idea. I think he probably went and had a drink or something. Stretched – once you get blown up in a helicopter your muscles get a little tight.”

“Were there any that didn’t get cut? I’m asking you, were there any that didn’t get cut? There were so many scenes that got cut from the movie, I couldn’t even start. I think that the Joker… we did a lot of experimentation on the set, we explored a lot. There’s so much that we shot that’s not in the film.
“If I die anytime soon, it’s probably likely that it’ll surface somewhere. That’s the good news about the death of an actor is all that stuff seems to come out.”
As IGN left the room we told Leto we hope he doesn’t die anytime soon, to which he rather darkly responded “We all die.”
 
Yeah. He's pissed. And after how much Ayer and the cast had been talking him up all these months, I can understand why.

But remember, this is Ayer's cut, Jared! :funny:
 
Hey WB give me Suicide Squad: The Joker Cut!

I think they should offer us a director's cut, also. Some of what is described may have fixed a few issues with the film.
 
I think they should offer us a director's cut, also. Some of what is described may have fixed a few issues with the film.
They can't market it as a "director's cut." Ayer has gone on the record as saying the theatrical cut is his cut.
 
Reading the deleted Joker scenes, this IS the Joker. He would have beat Heath easily in my mind with those scenes. Why I'm so excited to see where he goes from here. He was the clown prince of crime.

They can't market it as a "director's cut." Ayer has gone on the record as saying the theatrical cut is his cut.

Call it the Joker Cut. You get a heck of a lot of money with it labeled as that.
 
“That’s a good question. I have no idea. I think he probably went and had a drink or something. Stretched – once you get blown up in a helicopter your muscles get a little tight.”

“Were there any that didn’t get cut? I’m asking you, were there any that didn’t get cut? There were so many scenes that got cut from the movie, I couldn’t even start. I think that the Joker… we did a lot of experimentation on the set, we explored a lot. There’s so much that we shot that’s not in the film.
“If I die anytime soon, it’s probably likely that it’ll surface somewhere. That’s the good news about the death of an actor is all that stuff seems to come out.”
As IGN left the room we told Leto we hope he doesn’t die anytime soon, to which he rather darkly responded “We all die.”

Damn. He seems pretty bummed about this. I'll be seeing this Sunday afternoon. I hope I don't hate his character cause I sure as hell hated Lex.

Reading the deleted Joker scenes, this IS the Joker. He would have beat Heath easily in my mind with those scenes. Why I'm so excited to see where he goes from here. He was the clown prince of crime.



Call it the Joker Cut. You get a heck of a lot of money with it labeled as that.

Don't see why not if they really cut that many scenes. I mean, If Rouge can get her own cut, Joker can.
 
He legit sounds suicidal...

Don't think so. Sounds still in character. It's remarkably black humor. It reminds me of the jokes that the Joker would make. Upset, yeah but he is having a laugh about it, "we all die." That's pure Joker.
 
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They can't market it as a "director's cut." Ayer has gone on the record as saying the theatrical cut is his cut.

They can easily get around that.

Ayer can claim that yes, the TC is in fact his cut, but he thinks the fans deserve to see the extra material that was cut out.

I doubt it's going to happen, but WB can still ******** their way out of this. It sets a bad precedent, but if it's the only way to get the COMPLETE product... it'll have to do.
 
That scene, in my opinion, sums up why Heath Ledger's performance was so brilliant.

Yes, Joker was intimidating in that scene, but he was downright hilarious, too. Ledger balanced the two magnificently.

I'll never forget seeing The Dark Knight in theaters for the first time (it was a packed theater, at a midnight/premiere screening). The audience reaction to the "magic trick" was amazing. First, there was that scared "oh," then there was laughter, and then there was loud applause.

Yeah. Ledger's Joker=lightning in a bottle. I don't see something of that caliber happening again anytime soon.

EDIT: Whoops, my brain was reading Joker's first scene with Gambol, not the "Why So Serious" scene, for some reason. My mistake! But yeah, you're right. He was frightening in that sequence. First time I saw the movie, I had to advert my eyes because I didn't know what was going to happen next. A+ example of a movie building up tension, suspense, and fear without having to resort to jump scares and buckets of gore.

Zimmers score was brilliant in the dark knight trilogy really felt it the joker scenes

Leto's interview was sad to watch he was professional about it but I wouldn't blame him if he was pissed about the butchering
 
They can easily get around that.

Ayer can claim that yes, the TC is in fact his cut, but he thinks the fans deserve to see the extra material that was cut out.

I doubt it's going to happen, but WB can still ******** their way out of this. It sets a bad precedent, but if it's the only way to get the COMPLETE product... it'll have to do.
But now we're getting into the habit of WB releasing complete products month after-the-fact as a means of damage control.

Is this the way it's going to be from now on? The studio butchers a film in the editing room, hacking it right down to the bone, just so they can get as much money out of its theatrical run as possible. Then, months later, they release the "real" film? What's my incentive to see the ****** version in theaters then?

Can't decide if that's hysterical or infuriating.
 
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He's more of a love-sick gangster Joker. I like Joker better on his own.
 
But now we're getting into the habit of WB releasing complete products month after-the-fact as a means of damage control.

Is this the way it's going to be from now on? The studio butchers a film in the editing room, hacking it right down to the bone, just so they can get as much money out of its theatrical run as possible. Then, months later, they release the "real" film? What's my incentive to see the ****** version in theaters then?

Can't decide if that's hysterical or infuriating.

That's what I said, it sets a bad precedent for now. But if UNTIL WB gets its **** straightened out it's the only way to get the best possible product, I'm willing to accept it. I don't accept the practice itself, but I want Ayer and the cast to be done justice. It's a ****** situation and none of this should have happened in the first place, but I don't want the fans OR the filmmakers to suffer because some suits decided to mess with the product.
 
I know we love to overreact to every little bit of info, but can we not on this? We haven't heard this quote in its context, I'm pretty sure Jared is ok. Plus, he's said countless times this is the SQUAD'S movie. R.e.l.a.x
 
They can easily get around that.

Ayer can claim that yes, the TC is in fact his cut, but he thinks the fans deserve to see the extra material that was cut out.

I doubt it's going to happen, but WB can still ******** their way out of this. It sets a bad precedent, but if it's the only way to get the COMPLETE product... it'll have to do.

Ayer's cut would be basically 'alternative' and that's something what studios don't like. If they release it and it's much better then they'll look really stupid. Plus TC should be their DCCU canon so if in director's cut this J/HQ relationship is totally different...
 
Ayer's cut would be basically 'alternative' and that's something what studios don't like. If they release it and it's much better then they'll look really stupid. Plus TC should be their DCCU canon so if in director's cut this J/HQ relationship is totally different...

Isn't that what happened with BvS, though? Across the board, people prefer the Ultimate Cut over the theatrical cut. They didn't market it as an alternative cut, they marketed it as "30 minutes of extra material, for the fans!"

It's stupid PR ******** but they could do it if they wanted to.
 
Loved what we saw so far from Leto. Him making that dude kiss his ring was my favorite bit.
 
Having just seen the movie, I think this love sick puppy dressed in ugly gangster garb was not the Joker. I'm not sure how much story was missing from the cuts, but what they left it gave us the worst on screen version of the Joker, and one of the worst versions in general.

He had not got one memorable or menacing moment. I wouldn't be at all scared to be left in a room with this guy. Just kiss his bling rings on his hand and you're fine. He was completely unnecessary to the plot. The back story with Harley was rushed and didn't feel organic at all. There was no sense of anticipation for the character to return when he wasn't on the screen, in fact I forgot about him when he wasn't on screen. That says a lot considering I was watching Harley most of the time.

They butchered the Joker/Harley relationship. Not just from Joker's perspective of his sole goal being to simply be reunited with her. But also from Harley's perspective. When Enchantress showed what each of the Squad wanted most in the world, they showed Harley envisioning her looking normal, in a normal house, with normal looking babies, and married to a tender loving normal looking Jared Leto.

That left an awful taste in my mouth. It implies Harley doesn't love Joker exactly the way he is and would rather he be normal than a freaky clown. When Harley fantasizes about settling down with Joker, this is the sort of thing she should be seeing;

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Ayer has not got a clue about the Joker, or the Joker/Harley relationship. Just awful. Leto was totally forgettable.
 
Ayer's cut would be basically 'alternative' and that's something what studios don't like. If they release it and it's much better then they'll look really stupid. Plus TC should be their DCCU canon so if in director's cut this J/HQ relationship is totally different...

Nah, not at all. But cuts could still be canon. The way I see it, this is how Harley views the Joker for their scenes together. In her story, she'd avoid the part of Joker hitting her.
 
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