The Rise of Skywalker JJ Abrams is Writing and Directing Episode IX

[DarthSkywalker]

Boba Fett isn't a Mandalorian. That wasn't a Disney decision, that was Lucas. Jango and Boba are not Mandos, Jango stole the armor.

 

[Elayis]

What? When did that happen?

 

[Elayis]

They could've done worse than Abrams, I suppose. I'm certainly glad that Trevorrow is gone (even though I liked SNG), but it's hard for me to get excited about IX with Abrams and Terri writing it. TFA was better than I expected (and the only Abrams film I enjoy), but it was a very flawed film that still couldn't top RotJ, which shouldn't be that hard to do.

Hopefully he'll be able to do interesting stuff with the new characters, I just hope he leaves his mystery box shtick behind.

My only major concern with the film is that the 7 month delay might affect John Williams' ability (or desire) to return. Another two years until scoring begins is a long time to wait at his age. And I really, really don't want Giacchino to do it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What? When did that happen?

Lucas made this clear during the production of TCW. This has actually been know for years and has not changed so far. It has been confirmed in canon by dialogue in TCW and source material released since the purchase by Disney. This has all been been backed up by Filoni and Hidalgo.

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[writer0327]

JJ was not only the safe choice, JJ was the smart choice. I had my wish list of guys like Spielberg and GDT, but honestly when Johnson said no, JJ made the most sense.

In the last film of a trilogy, you don't need all risky and daring and out of the box thinking...., the time for that is the first two films. You want someone with experience in the franchise to bring this thing home and wrap up all the story points nicely and neatly. There weren't a lot of options out there better than JJ.

If anything, JJ's "mystery box" style could create some interesting bunny trails to be explored later down the line, maybe so we can enjoy the rest of the SW universe and stop playing in OT territory, but there is no doubt in my mind he'll finalize the story of TFA and TLJ.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I am going to enjoy the narrative that JJ is an awful storyteller and director going into IX.

 

[Iceman]

I am going to enjoy the narrative that JJ is an awful storyteller and director going into IX.

I reckon Episode IX will make billions, be popular with critics, fans and the GA, and then we'll come back here to learn how it was all a horrible mess and the future of Star Wars is looking very worrying!

 

[mclay18]

I guess since J.J.'s returning, we'll also get cinematographer Dan Mindel and his editor duo Mary Jo Markey and Maryann Brandon back.

Those three did a good job.

 

[Broseph44]

I reckon Episode IX will make billions, be popular with critics, fans and the GA, and then we'll come back here to learn how it was all a horrible mess and the future of Star Wars is looking very worrying!

Yep I already know 3 posters who will be around here even after episode IX spouting their same old non sense

 

[Doctor Jones]

JJ was not only the safe choice, JJ was the smart choice. I had my wish list of guys like Spielberg and GDT, but honestly when Johnson said no, JJ made the most sense.

In the last film of a trilogy, you don't need all risky and daring and out of the box thinking...., the time for that is the first two films. You want someone with experience in the franchise to bring this thing home and wrap up all the story points nicely and neatly. There weren't a lot of options out there better than JJ.

If anything, JJ's "mystery box" style could create some interesting bunny trails to be explored later down the line, maybe so we can enjoy the rest of the SW universe and stop playing in OT territory, but there is no doubt in my mind he'll finalize the story of TFA and TLJ.

Maybe I'm wrong and if I'm presuming too much and using you as an example, sorry, but this reads to me as you're already settling and adjusted your expectations. You have made up your mind. You're convincing yourself that everything is fine when there's deeper problems behind all of this. And it goes way beyond, "Abrams is a better fit than Trevorrow, they fixed the problem!" But they haven't. If anything, this is just a reaffirmation of the problems they've already been having, which means they haven't fixed the real problems. Abrams being hired seems to be more accepted across the board because it's based on what we had before and what we avoided than doing better. I have a feeling this thinking will carry over into the movie and people will love it no matter what.

What it takes for people to admit to the fundamental flaws for these new SW movie I just don't know. I think this is a case of people who already love them will continue to love them and the same for the people who don't. The problem is both think they're right. I don't have a problem with people enjoying them, my problem is how people can't acknowledge the flaws to these and pretend how everything is just fine and Disney is doing a bang up job. Where things can meet in the middle is how one can enjoy something while being critical of it. It seems people can't have both because it's some defeat, or it's another disappointment that the prequels left them. It's like how people who say the prequels are great, flawless movies and won't listen to the substantive criticisms of them. The same thing is happening here for different reasons.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I haven't seen ANYONE say the prequels were amazing, flawless movies. The extent I've seen is that some people, over time, have warmed up to them a bit more saying they aren't the catastrophes they once thought they were. As far as the sequels, we're basing all of this off a SINGLE film. We're only 1/3 into this thing. Shouldn't we AT MINIMUM wait until The Last Jedi is out, so we can get a little better idea of where this is all headed? Do I think JJ is a safe choice? Kinda, but I've said it before. I feel like this is a better the devil you know than the one you don't situation. I don't think there is ANYTHING wrong with Disney having a particular vision for how they want things to go. I do think they've jumped the gun on some of their directorial choices. Clearly, their whole trying to grab the "hot" choice at the time isn't working. Hopefully they start discussing the director's visions to make sure they line up with their own as opposed to trying to get a hot headline with the announcement of the director. I mean, it doesn't do them any good and really just makes them look bad when the choice has been let go not long before, much less during production.

 

[batman1]

I'm not happy but we should give it a chance.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Boba Fett isn't a Mandalorian. That wasn't a Disney decision, that was Lucas. Jango and Boba are not Mandos, Jango stole the armor.

And they kept the word 'Mandalorian' stuck in my head. BOOOOOOO.

I haven't seen ANYONE say the prequels were amazing, flawless movies. The extent I've seen is that some people, over time, have warmed up to them a bit more saying they aren't the catastrophes they once thought they were. As far as the sequels, we're basing all of this off a SINGLE film. We're only 1/3 into this thing. Shouldn't we AT MINIMUM wait until The Last Jedi is out, so we can get a little better idea of where this is all headed?

Some people are willing to let reason prevail, others not so much.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

And they kept the word 'Mandalorian' stuck in my head. BOOOOOOO.

Some people are willing to let reason prevail, others not so much.

Obviously Star Wars means ALOT to ALOT of people, so I can somewhat understand, but to judge a trilogy on a single film when from what we've heard, The Last Jedi is quite a departure is beyond jumping the gun. I'm a hell of a Star Wars fan myself. I grew up with it, and I've watched it's influence effect so many of the films, books, and pop culture in general that I love so much. I just think we owe it to everyone involved to wait for a final product. Speculation can be a blast, but it's almost like some people are depressing themselves because they're SO SURE the movies are gonna suck.

 

[Sithborg]

I haven't seen ANYONE say the prequels were amazing, flawless movies. The extent I've seen is that some people, over time, have warmed up to them a bit more saying they aren't the catastrophes they once thought they were. As far as the sequels, we're basing all of this off a SINGLE film. We're only 1/3 into this thing. Shouldn't we AT MINIMUM wait until The Last Jedi is out, so we can get a little better idea of where this is all headed? Do I think JJ is a safe choice? Kinda, but I've said it before. I feel like this is a better the devil you know than the one you don't situation. I don't think there is ANYTHING wrong with Disney having a particular vision for how they want things to go. I do think they've jumped the gun on some of their directorial choices. Clearly, their whole trying to grab the "hot" choice at the time isn't working. Hopefully they start discussing the director's visions to make sure they line up with their own as opposed to trying to get a hot headline with the announcement of the director. I mean, it doesn't do them any good and really just makes them look bad when the choice has been let go not long before, much less during production.

Then you haven't been looking in the right places.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Then you haven't been looking in the right places.

Then by all means, point me to these deep dark corners and alleyways. No seriously, where can I find that particular discussion? I'm extremely curious to see what changed some of these folk's minds.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Obviously Star Wars means ALOT to ALOT of people, so I can somewhat understand, but to judge a trilogy on a single film when from what we've heard, The Last Jedi is quite a departure is beyond jumping the gun. I'm a hell of a Star Wars fan myself. I grew up with it, and I've watched it's influence effect so many of the films, books, and pop culture in general that I love so much. I just think we owe it to everyone involved to wait for a final product. Speculation can be a blast, but it's almost like some people are depressing themselves because they're SO SURE the movies are gonna suck.

Listen, I've been saying TLJ could be the one to make me wrong. And it still could be a great movie that changes things and is what I'd like this franchise to finally be. The aesthetic still annoys me at times, but I do really appreciate some of the new stuff (the island "nuns" and Porgs are great! I appreciate Snoke's gold robe). From what I've seen design wise, it looks like Johnson wants to do something different, but is stuck in OT aesthetic by Disney. I still have some skepticism based on what's come before and what we've heard behind the scenes), but there also isn't enough for that for me to really to give me confidence that this is going to be the different and great movie. I've been told it, but I haven't seen it. And based on what we got so far, it's got more going against those chances of it being something unique. But Johnson is such a strange factor I can't help but hold out hope. That teaser was fine, but it just kind of looked like TFA. I get it's a teaser and the visual consistency, but in terms of aesthetic and feel. This next trailer could tell me a lot more. Or not. Disney usually advertises what you get. I want to be wrong here, but it's not my fault I keep seeing this stuff that isn't doing that.

But Rogue One sucked. TFA was good and well made, but there's not much there to take away from it. Even if TLJ is great, it's all gonna be undone by the cluster**** Han Solo film, the ROTFA 2.0 of 9, the Obi-Wan, their Boba Fett movie and the endless stream of stuff I've seen before. Disney likes safe and sure bets. Basically, TLJ has to truly be on another level. Johnson has to bring it like no one's ever brought it before.

 

[TheVileOne]

I haven't seen ANYONE say the prequels were amazing, flawless movies. The extent I've seen is that some people, over time, have warmed up to them a bit more saying they aren't the catastrophes they once thought they were. As far as the sequels, we're basing all of this off a SINGLE film. We're only 1/3 into this thing. Shouldn't we AT MINIMUM wait until The Last Jedi is out, so we can get a little better idea of where this is all headed? Do I think JJ is a safe choice? Kinda, but I've said it before. I feel like this is a better the devil you know than the one you don't situation. I don't think there is ANYTHING wrong with Disney having a particular vision for how they want things to go. I do think they've jumped the gun on some of their directorial choices. Clearly, their whole trying to grab the "hot" choice at the time isn't working. Hopefully they start discussing the director's visions to make sure they line up with their own as opposed to trying to get a hot headline with the announcement of the director. I mean, it doesn't do them any good and really just makes them look bad when the choice has been let go not long before, much less during production.

I have.

I've seen people start petitions to get George Lucas come back as director.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Listen, I've been saying TLJ could be the one to make me wrong. And it still could be a great movie that changes things and is what I'd like this franchise to finally be. The aesthetic still annoys me at times, but I do really appreciate some of the new stuff (the island "nuns" and Porgs are great! I appreciate Snoke's gold robe). From what I've seen design wise, it looks like Johnson wants to do something different, but is stuck in OT aesthetic by Disney. I still have some skepticism based on what's come before and what we've heard behind the scenes), but there also isn't enough for that for me to really to give me confidence that this is going to be the different and great movie. I've been told it, but I haven't seen it. And based on what we got so far, it's got more going against those chances of it being something unique. But Johnson is such a strange factor I can't help but hold out hope. That teaser was fine, but it just kind of looked like TFA. I get it's a teaser and the visual consistency, but in terms of aesthetic and feel. This next trailer could tell me a lot more. Or not. Disney usually advertises what you get. I want to be wrong here, but it's not my fault I keep seeing this stuff that isn't doing that.

But Rogue One sucked. TFA was good and well made, but there's not much there to take away from it. Even if TLJ is great, it's all gonna be undone by the cluster**** Han Solo film, the ROTFA 2.0 of 9, the Obi-Wan, their Boba Fett movie and the endless stream of stuff I've seen before. Disney likes safe and sure bets.

Well, I disagree about Rogue One, but I respect that we all have our own opinions. It's actually funny how much I agree with you. I thought the point of the side stories was for us to get something completely unique just set in the SW universe. So far, we haven't gotten that. I'm kinda hoping once they've exhausted the standard fare, that's what we'll begin to see with the "Star Wars Stories". As far as the canon sequels, I DO WANT a sense of continuity through those, aesthetic included. I hope you get what you're looking for with TLJ. Johnson is such a dark horse it's very hard to know what we're getting. Honestly, Hammill's statement that he disagreed with everything that Johnson had done with Luke originally has me beyond excited in a good way. I just have a feeling that Hammill was expecting standard Luke fare, and it sounds like that may have gotten very shaken up. That, to me, is SO exciting. And I get that you feel JJ was the safe choice, but even he had issues behind the scenes. It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows, and if you felt TFA was just a basic retread, I won't disagree, but I feel like that's EXACTLY what the series needed at that time. After the prequels and the bad taste most people had in their mouths, I think giving people the fan service they wanted was exactly what the public needed to get behind SW again. Now, I think they can really delve into the story they wanted to tell all along. Is it a shame they had to kinda waste a movie to get that done? Sure, but I feel like they got enough moments in TFA to move it along just enough with Han's death, Kylo's revelation, Rey's awakening, and the realization of what happened to the academy. It was enough...just so, but it was enough. Like I said, it's funny how much we actually agree, but I'm coming into the next one with a positive attitude. It just feels like you're coming into it very skeptical. All we can do is hope I'm right, and your fears were all for nothing.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

I have.

I've seen people start petitions to get George Lucas come back as director.

Where, so I can stick Anonymous on something truly important. Are the first two signatures Hayden Christensen and Ahmed Best?!

 

[Sithborg]

I mean, you can find all the Star Wars crazies on theforce.net.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I mean, you can find all the Star Wars crazies on theforce.net.

Oh, we have our fair share. Though I am not sure they are actually Star Wars fans.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Oh, we have our fair share. Though I am not sure they are actually Star Wars fans.

Absolutely. Just as many of them are pure **** starters as they are fans actually trying to have a discussion.

 

[Marvolo]

Oh, we have our fair share.

Yeah there is one on this very page.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah there is one on this very page.

I swear... I will NEVER understand what about an internet message board causes people to become so violent and hateful. Without sounding like TOO much of a prick, I think it's absolutely ****ing hilarious.