The Force Awakens John Boyega as Finn

[I Am The Knight]

Finn/Poe?

Oh dear

 

[Pecola1]

Finn/Poe?

Oh dear

Yeah... some people have been saying that because they seemed to work great together when they first met, and Fin even got to keep the jacket...
But I felt like Fin made it obvious that he's straight.

(Unless that was him being obvious that he isn't? Him doing things such as the hand holding without thinking of it as weird, vs doing it because he was interested. But that whole awkward Q to Rey about if she had a boyfriend...)

 

[Drewbi-Wan]

Finn is definitely into Rey (who isn't?) and I think he may have won her over by coming back for her.

 

[hellified]

Finn is definitely into Rey (who isn't?) and I think he may have won her over by coming back for her.

considering she was waiting all her life on jakku for someone to come back for her..the fact that he did means something huge to her.

 

[spiderman2]

considering she was waiting all her life on jakku for someone to come back for her..the fact that he did means something huge to her.

Yeah that look on her face when chechbooka said something about how it was fine's idea to come back and the hug she gave him you could see how big that was.

 

[Greens]

Yeah, gotta love that chechbooka character...

 

[spider-neil]

just waiting for Finn and Rey to have that Han and Leia moment.."I love you"..I know"

how much you wanna bet they reverse and have her say I know

It's entirely possible that Rey and Finn don't cross paths for an entire movie.

 

[The Endless]

Finn was awesome. He's like the Jack Burton of Star Wars.

 

[spider-neil]

I definitely think they are going to explain why Finn was able to break life long brainwashing.

 

[DeadStroke]

Good character.

But should have been a great character. Maybe his progression will be better in the next movie.

 

[Pecola1]

I definitely think they are going to explain why Finn was able to break life long brainwashing.

They have to... otherwise its a plot hole. That's the only difference between a plot hole and an interesting event. One is intentional, and is explained or made obvious, the other is unintentional, doesn't make sense, and is never explained or made obvious.

Good character.

But should have been a great character. Maybe his progression will be better in the next movie.

I think he was a great character, is a movie full of amazing characters, which therefore, compared to others he looked like just a good character.

Even Maz was an amazing character, especially great since she was a new CGI character that worked well in the story. (Though I do think her CGI wasn't as good as it could have been... she specifically looked a bit less real than some of the others. Might be just because she is so different from humans, and it's really just me.)

 

[Blade X]

I finally saw the movie and I LOVED IT. In regards to Finn, he was no way near as useless and wimpy as a number of fans were making him out to be. He was also not a stereotypical Black caricature. He was basically the new Han Solo of the trilogy in regards to him being (initially) out for himself and a bit of a slick con artist. And while he got his butt kicked by that one Stormtrooper while wielding the Lightsaber, he did kill another Stormtrooper a few seconds earlier with the Lightsaber. He was also a good gunner. That all being said, I still wish that he had Force powers, and based on a few scenes in the movie, I still think that he might be (at the very least) Force sensitive. Frankly, he was my favorite new character in the movie (which is saying a lot, since I liked all of the new characters).

 

[Havok83]

I wouldnt describe him as a con artist at all.

 

[godisawesome]

I definitely think they are going to explain why Finn was able to break life long brainwashing.

Because no brainwashing is infallible, and more specifically because FN-2187 managed to avoid prior demerits. They mention reconditioning and no one seems to bat an eye about it, which to me implies that the threat of "breakdowns" is real enough that they've created a system to manage it and it's usage is just common enough to avoid stirring anyone up.

Finn's the first to successfully break free, but their system is clearly built with some degree of policing inside. We also know from the new books that the attempt to dehumanize the troopers was only partially successful; they still give each other nicknames like the clones (Finn's original nickname was 87, the guy who put blood on his helmet was known as Slip.) Plus, full on "programming" like you see in the Bourne films, where pain and torture are used to try and rewire the way we think, always seems to have side effects, always seems to have broken washouts, and takes even more resources than simple cult techniques.

And even if you try and change the perception of reality to match the story you're telling, reality rarely cooperates. Finn was probably told that village was either a slimy den of criminals or something equally vile, but if you're on the ground seeing people who clearly have a culture, clearly live in a way avoiding conflict on a day to day basis, and you see some surrendering or running away immediately while others try and cover them... Well, that's kind of like North Korea telling their people that the South Korean justice system is cruel and despotic, but when they watch the trial of someone there, suddenly everyone seems nicer and calmer and peaceful about it, and they all look well dressed and feed too....

No system of indoctrination is so secure that you won't have fallout one way or another. It's not a plot hole; Finn's just the mathematical anomaly on breaking free paired with enough skill and intelligence to make his escape.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I really don't think Finn's defecting needs to be explained. I thought it was all laid out across well in this movie to be a guy who decided to break away from the First Order because he was fed up with them after seeing what they were capable of and he was part of the problem. It's very simple. Exceptions usually are the heroic and good characters and that's the point of one.

 

[JaD]

Totally random fact I pointed out to my friend after seeing the movie again last night, but I like the way John Boyega ran in this movie

I was pointing out how some actors just can't pull off running in movies and they look goofy and ridiculous, Dane Cook is probably the worst example as his run is so bizarre. Tom Cruise is easily the best. Couldn't put my finger on it just yet but Boyega had a good technique

Edit: I meant to say by the way that Liam Hemsworth had one of the worst runs I've ever seen, not Dane Cook (even though his is pretty strange too)

 

[Voltron]

Totally random fact I pointed out to my friend after seeing the movie again last night, but I like the way John Boyega ran in this movie

I was pointing out how some actors just can't pull off running in movies and they look goofy and ridiculous, Dane Cook is probably the worst example as his run is so bizarre. Tom Cruise is easily the best. Couldn't put my finger on it just yet but Boyega had a good technique

Hey, that's what I notice too when actors play a mix of action, if they can pull off the running and physicality. I noticed that Daisy and Boyega have great running styles as shown in Jakku. It annoys me when actors play an athletic kickass character but their goofy running style, terrible physicality and "vogue" action acting takes me out of it like ScarJo's Black Widow.

 

[Voltron]

Finn/Poe?

Oh dear

Oh I meant "Foe" or "Pinn". I wasn't serious about that and was poking fun at fan fiction shippers.

considering she was waiting all her life on jakku for someone to come back for her..the fact that he did means something huge to her.

Good point. Finn came back for her while her family hasn't. I'd be touched too.

 

[I Am The Knight]

That reminds me that Han "running" looked super cheesy in this movie. I know he's like 70 but maybe Abrams should have considered cutting those shots

 

[Voltron]

Give Ford a pass, the guy is 70. He ran great back in his prime. https://youtu.be/pLXdCntLHgI?t=4m13s
note: not sure if that's ford or his stuntman but it looks like Ford.

 

[Octoberist]

That reminds me that Han "running" looked super cheesy in this movie. I know he's like 70 but maybe Abrams should have considered cutting those shots

He looked fine.

 

[titansupes]

He looked fine. Hell, he runs the same way in The Fugitive as he does in TFA, and that was what, 22/23 years ago?

(It was on TV a week or two ago, that's why I jumped to that one).

 

[I Am The Knight]

Really? I haven't seen that movie in ages so maybe you're right. But yeah, he's still the man.

 

[Voltron]

He looked fine. Hell, he runs the same way in The Fugitive as he does in TFA, and that was what, 22/23 years ago?

(It was on TV a week or two ago, that's why I jumped to that one).

Yeah he runs and moves well enough to me. https://youtu.be/h_XRbGUZbfk?t=36s

 

[magneto23]

Because no brainwashing is infallible, and more specifically because FN-2187 managed to avoid prior demerits. They mention reconditioning and no one seems to bat an eye about it, which to me implies that the threat of "breakdowns" is real enough that they've created a system to manage it and it's usage is just common enough to avoid stirring anyone up.

Finn's the first to successfully break free, but their system is clearly built with some degree of policing inside. We also know from the new books that the attempt to dehumanize the troopers was only partially successful; they still give each other nicknames like the clones (Finn's original nickname was 87, the guy who put blood on his helmet was known as Slip.) Plus, full on "programming" like you see in the Bourne films, where pain and torture are used to try and rewire the way we think, always seems to have side effects, always seems to have broken washouts, and takes even more resources than simple cult techniques.

And even if you try and change the perception of reality to match the story you're telling, reality rarely cooperates. Finn was probably told that village was either a slimy den of criminals or something equally vile, but if you're on the ground seeing people who clearly have a culture, clearly live in a way avoiding conflict on a day to day basis, and you see some surrendering or running away immediately while others try and cover them... Well, that's kind of like North Korea telling their people that the South Korean justice system is cruel and despotic, but when they watch the trial of someone there, suddenly everyone seems nicer and calmer and peaceful about it, and they all look well dressed and feed too....

No system of indoctrination is so secure that you won't have fallout one way or another. It's not a plot hole; Finn's just the mathematical anomaly on breaking free paired with enough skill and intelligence to make his escape.

Exactly this. People are desperate for the force triggered his break away explanation. He's not getting the force sensitive storyline. We got Rey, Kylo, Luke, and Snoke for that.