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[Ultimate_Superman]

Action Comics is not that bad. It is very good if you liked Superman: The Movie and SII:RDC. I guess I look at this book like For Tomorrow as stand alone comics they are okay but when the TPB comes out it will be much better. Although I liked For Tomorrow with the stand alone issues as well.

 

[The Leaguer]

you sound like a guy who also hates interacial relationships as well. And save the crap, you have no sensible reason for hateing a "Freak baby".

I think h_h is wrong on this but, even I know that's bulls***. Don't turn crap that isn't about race into race. It's just annoying.

Action Comics is not that bad. It is very good if you liked Superman: The Movie and SII:RDC.

I like the the movies, but this run still sucks. It's just terribly written.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I think h_h is wrong on this but, even I know that's bulls***. Don't turn crap that isn't about race into race. It's just annoying.



I like the the movies, but this run still sucks. It's just terribly written.

IMO not terribly written just slow because Donner is trying to get you to know the people before giving you action. Although I think the fight in last issue was pretty good.

 

[The Leaguer]

It's been pretty terrible. The entire story revolves around Zod's kid, but they don't bother to stop and make you care about him. They just introduce him and say, "okay, Superman loves him now!" and the reader is just left wondering why he or she is supposed to care.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I agree it would have been better if Lois and Clark were having their own child but hey.

 

[The Leaguer]

No "but hey." Read it feels like "butt f***."

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Lol

 

[Darthphere]

It is very good if you liked Superman: The Movie and SII:RDC.

Untruth. I love those movies, theyre great, because they represent Superman of that time, those movies came out 20-30 years ago, hes not the same character anymore, forgive me if I prefer character progression over time stasis on the Reeve's version.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Seriously. Move FORWARD.

 

[Darthphere]

Stop selling their dog tags....

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Untruth. I love those movies, theyre great, because they represent Superman of that time, those movies came out 20-30 years ago, hes not the same character anymore, forgive me if I prefer character progression over time stasis on the Reeve's version.

I understand and agree but the fact remains IC and Up, Up, and Away brought Superman back to Reeve's version. I mean I guess right now they are going off of Silver Age Superman and his movie counter parts for his history and origin now.

 

[Darthphere]

I understand and agree but the fact remains IC and Up, Up, and Away brought Superman back to Reeve's version. I mean I guess right now they are going off of Silver Age Superman and his movie counter parts for his history and origin now.

Again, untruth. Geoff Johns and Richard Donner brought him back to the Reeve's version. Just read Busiek's Superman, or him in JLA, you couldnt even tell they're the same character.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Again, untruth. Geoff Johns and Richard Donner brought him back to the Reeve's version. Just read Busiek's Superman, or him in JLA, you couldnt even tell they're the same character.

I agree with you there although if the kid lives I wonder how they will bring him into Busiek's Superman.

 

[Darthphere]

Hopefully a lot better than theyre doing now in Action.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I think h_h is wrong on this but, even I know that's bulls***. Don't turn crap that isn't about race into race. It's just annoying.

Just like Reginald Hudlin's run on Black Panther.

 

[Kebab gud]

Lois and Clark have taken in Chris Kent. However it turns out that he is the biological son of General Zod. The story is not finished yet, so we have to see if he'll remain with them.

itsd offisial .. DC has gone Adoption crazy .. Superman and Lois gets a kid, Black Canary gets a kid... whos next?

 

[hippie_hunter]

itsd offisial .. DC has gone Adoption crazy .. Superman and Lois gets a kid, Black Canary gets a kid... whos next?

Don't forget that Batman adopted Dick Grayson and Tim Drake as his sons.

 

[Kebab gud]

yeah but thats a part of "the sidekick code"..
like Ollie adopted Roy (ok i really cant remember if he ever really offisaly adopted him..)

 

[BrianWilly]

As I've said before on another thread, I don't buy Superman as some lonely "last son" figure who can never really connect with humanity anymore, and that's exactly what Donner keeps trying to paint him as. It's completely valid in the movieverses where he's not with Lois and Pa Kent is dead and he's got no real friends, but in the comic continuity he has a loving beautiful wife, two live parents, a bunch of obnoxious "cousins," and a league of friends and allies who accept him as what he is and would cheerfully die fighting by his side. He's got more connections to humanity than most humans do, he doesn't all of a sudden need to raise a son in order to feel connected. In fact, Rucka implied in his arc that he didn't even really want a son.

Not that I would mind Lois and Clark having a son; I'd love it. But you've got to approach it correctly.

 

[Kevin]

Don't forget that Batman adopted Dick Grayson and Tim Drake as his sons.

And Jason Todd, I think.

 

[jaydawg]

As I've said before on another thread, I don't buy Superman as some lonely "last son" figure who can never really connect with humanity anymore, and that's exactly what Donner keeps trying to paint him as. It's completely valid in the movieverses where he's not with Lois and Pa Kent is dead and he's got no real friends, but in the comic continuity he has a loving beautiful wife, two live parents, a bunch of obnoxious "cousins," and a league of friends and allies who accept him as what he is and would cheerfully die fighting by his side. He's got more connections to humanity than most humans do, he doesn't all of a sudden need to raise a son in order to feel connected. In fact, Rucka implied in his arc that he didn't even really want a son.

Not that I would mind Lois and Clark having a son; I'd love it. But you've got to approach it correctly.

Thats basically why I can't stand the Donner/ Johhns run. I love the first Superman movie and liked Returns, but the films themselves only really get the spirt of the character and not necessarily the character himself and certainly not his world. Krypton is so emotionally cold, it almost makes you feel glad they're dead. It's one thing to make him the last of his race (which I actually like, making me hate the fact that every other Kryptonian is evil) but compleltely another to make him feel so alone when every man, woman and child is in love with the guy.

The thing about the kid is, well, its about damn time Lois and Clark actually had a son. Problem is the exectution of it (and this was the major flaw of returns too). Why make it Zods kid and not their actual son? With all the crap that happens in the DCU, I highly doubt there wouldnt be some way to make it happen.

Plus closest thing to depth Zod has as a character is a played out catch phrase.

 

[Darthphere]

Kneel before Zod!

 

[hippie_hunter]

yeah but thats a part of "the sidekick code"..
like Ollie adopted Roy (ok i really cant remember if he ever really offisaly adopted him..)

It's not sidekick code. Roy was Ollie's ward and Mia is his current ward. Dick was Bruce's ward. Bruce eventually adopted Dick as his legal son when he was well into his 20's and he adopted Tim as his legal son recently. Ollie never adpoted Roy nor Mia to my recollection.

 

[jaydawg]

Kneel before Zod!

Stephen Colbert is the only man who can make that line work. And only then is it funny because its supposed to be.

 

[Eros]

It's not sidekick code. Roy was Ollie's ward and Mia is his current ward. Dick was Bruce's ward. Bruce eventually adopted Dick as his legal son when he was well into his 20's and he adopted Tim as his legal son recently. Ollie never adpoted Roy nor Mia to my recollection.

you can adopt a grown man?