Judge Dredd Reboot!!

[GhostPoet]

I think the helmet is just a bit too big...that's it.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I think the helmet is just a bit too big...that's it.

indeed. As long as it doesn't wobble on his head like Batmans ears at the end of "Batman Forever" ile live with it. lol

At least he doesn't take his Helmet off in this movie.

 

[rogue trooper]

This is from Total Film magazine:

A new shot of Karl Urban as bad-ass law enforcer Judge Dredd has been revealed online.

The first image of Urban suited and booted appeared online last November, and this second image confirms the campy frills of Sly Stallone’s 1995 Dredd are well and truly dead.

Directed by Pete Travis and co-starring Olivia Thirlby and Lena Headey, this new adaptation of the comic has Dredd attempting to control the feral streets of Mega City One.

And Urban looks suitably sinister as the no-nonsense Street Judge, with his Dredd promising to be a darker, neo-noir vehicle that is truer to the original comic.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

This is from Total Film magazine:

A new shot of Karl Urban as bad-ass law enforcer Judge Dredd has been revealed online.

The first image of Urban suited and booted appeared online last November, and this second image confirms the campy frills of Sly Stallone’s 1995 Dredd are well and truly dead.

Directed by Pete Travis and co-starring Olivia Thirlby and Lena Headey, this new adaptation of the comic has Dredd attempting to control the feral streets of Mega City One.

And Urban looks suitably sinister as the no-nonsense Street Judge, with his Dredd promising to be a darker, neo-noir vehicle that is truer to the original comic.

This film certainly is darker, and dredd is very cold. one of my fav scenes is

Spoiler

when he shoots through a citizen to capture his perp

 

[Van Petrol]

Visually the helmet look fine. Size wise, not so much.

 

[Paradox1]

Sly's Dread was not campy, Batman & Robin was campy,
Sly's Dread was like Robocop but a human version.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Sly's Dread was not campy, Batman & Robin was campy,
Sly's Dread was like Robocop but a human version.

like Robocop?. i don't see the same thing you do. Robocop was violent really violent. if anything the new Dredd will be in tone like Robocop.

Stallones Dredd was more like Batman Forever.

 

[KenK]

You know what, the more I look at Stallone's Judge Dredd, the less I really see a problem with it. Maybe it wasn't as blood-splatteringly violent as some fans think it should have been, be dammit if Dredd didn't kill a lot of people just in the first ten minutes!

And sure, this new film will honor all the Dredd-heads and keep his helmet on the whole movie, but looking at what little we've seen thus far, I'm honestly not THAT impressed. Urban's look as Dredd is honestly rather subdued. A lot of the visual flourishes from the comic costume appear to be severely downplayed. And physically, I don't get the impression of him towering over anyone, the way Stallone did, and with a costume closer to the comics than what Urban's sporting, in my opinion.

Yeah, you had Rob Schneider in a comic relief role, and Armand Assante DID chew a fair amount of scenery, but looking back on the film, it certainly wasn't campy, and I don't think it ever took the material lightly. Technically, I think a lot of elements of the film still hold up surprisingly well. The production design is astounding, the visual effects were serviceable by '95 standards, and Alan Silvestri laid down an amazing score for the film.

 

[Paradox1]

like Robocop?. i don't see the same thing you do. Robocop was violent really violent. if anything the new Dredd will be in tone like Robocop.

Stallones Dredd was more like Batman Forever.

There was terrorism, murder, and cannabalism. There is nothing campy about those themes.

 

[The Morningstar]

Really cool pic. Nice and atmospheric. I agree that the lid is a bit too big though.

 

[wobbly]

Robocop's writers admit they ripped off Dredd's satirical violent tone for that film, so much so when it came to doing Stallone's Dredd they felt they couldn't go with that as it would be compared to closely to Robocop.

The result was humor that was all cheese all no satire (Fergie, Dredd's lame one liners, etc).

Another thing is they tried to do too much in one story: They combined elements from several stories (The Cursed Earth, Mutie the Pig, The Judge Child and the Judge Cal saga's). Should have gone with just the one imo.

All that being said, the Hammerstein robot and Mean Angel prosthetics were was ###king perfect.

 

[The Morningstar]

There was a lot to like in Stallone's Dredd, for me anyway. But, there was also a lot to dislike.

 

[Paradox1]

I agree Morningstar it was one of my favorite 90's comic book adaptions but maybe that is just me.

 

[I, Shadow]

You know what, the more I look at Stallone's Judge Dredd, the less I really see a problem with it. Maybe it wasn't as blood-splatteringly violent as some fans think it should have been, be dammit if Dredd didn't kill a lot of people just in the first ten minutes!

And sure, this new film will honor all the Dredd-heads and keep his helmet on the whole movie, but looking at what little we've seen thus far, I'm honestly not THAT impressed. Urban's look as Dredd is honestly rather subdued. A lot of the visual flourishes from the comic costume appear to be severely downplayed. And physically, I don't get the impression of him towering over anyone, the way Stallone did, and with a costume closer to the comics than what Urban's sporting, in my opinion.

Yeah, you had Rob Schneider in a comic relief role, and Armand Assante DID chew a fair amount of scenery, but looking back on the film, it certainly wasn't campy, and I don't think it ever took the material lightly. Technically, I think a lot of elements of the film still hold up surprisingly well. The production design is astounding, the visual effects were serviceable by '95 standards, and Alan Silvestri laid down an amazing score for the film.

My main problem with that movie it's that 20 minutes into the film Dredd turned into Stallone and stayed Stallone for the rest of the film, I don't think it's campy either and the score is certainly amazing.

 

[rogue trooper]

And sure, this new film will honor all the Dredd-heads and keep his helmet on the whole movie, but looking at what little we've seen thus far, I'm honestly not THAT impressed. Urban's look as Dredd is honestly rather subdued. A lot of the visual flourishes from the comic costume appear to be severely downplayed. And physically, I don't get the impression of him towering over anyone, the way Stallone did, and with a costume closer to the comics than what Urban's sporting, in my opinion.

Yeah, you had Rob Schneider in a comic relief role, and Armand Assante DID chew a fair amount of scenery, but looking back on the film, it certainly wasn't campy, and I don't think it ever took the material lightly. Technically, I think a lot of elements of the film still hold up surprisingly well. The production design is astounding, the visual effects were serviceable by '95 standards, and Alan Silvestri laid down an amazing score for the film.

The film was visually impressive, nobody denies that. It very well had to be visually impressive, as they really put much more thought on the visual elements than on the essence of the character and stories of Judge Dredd.

As for saying that Urban doesn't give the impression of towering over anyone, well, since Urban is quite a bit taller than Stallone, ultimately I think Urban might accomplish this with a bit more ease than Stallone did. The gear that Urban wears is definately more intimidating than Stallone's. He looks more like he means business than a guy wearing lycra.

 

[rogue trooper]

like Robocop?. i don't see the same thing you do. Robocop was violent really violent. if anything the new Dredd will be in tone like Robocop.

Stallones Dredd was more like Batman Forever.

If not Batman Forever, it was very much a more expensive, but dumbed-down version of "Logan's Run".

 

[Brian Braddock]

Robocop's writers admit they ripped off Dredd's satirical violent tone for that film, so much so when it came to doing Stallone's Dredd they felt they couldn't go with that as it would be compared to closely to Robocop.

The result was humor that was all cheese all no satire (Fergie, Dredd's lame one liners, etc).

Another thing is they tried to do too much in one story: They combined elements from several stories (The Cursed Earth, Mutie the Pig, The Judge Child and the Judge Cal saga's). Should have gone with just the one imo.

All that being said, the Hammerstein robot and Mean Angel prosthetics were was ###king perfect.

Rob Bottin seemed to have gotten too carried away with the whole Dredd influence, if his 1st [rejected] Robocop design is anything to go by:-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/97531199@N00/4524587533/

There was a lot to like in Stallone's Dredd, for me anyway. But, there was also a lot to dislike.

That it was;

imo there are parts of the movie that I still love and parts that I hate in equal measure. They got the look [set design and character design] nailed as well as some of the tone but as soon as that helmet came off you just knew it wasnt the Dredd that we all knew from there on in, and to this day I cant stand the fact that Rico was a clone who didnt actually look like his clone brother. Seriously, that just baffles me [lord knows I've bored people enough on here in the past on numerous occasions with my idea on why they didnt even need to cast Assante in the 1st place so I'm not going to repeat it here].

What I will say is that I find it quite sad that we are yet to be given a proper 100% 2000AD movie [not just confining things to Dredd]. Apart from Stallone's Dredd effort, there are only a handful of movies that have even come close in both aesthetic looks and tone ('Soldier', 'Priest' and 'Doomsday' being an example of them).

Here's hoping this movie gives us what we've been craving for years - after all, I wanna see 2000AD films be a success so I get my Strontium Dog movie fer chissakes!!!!

 

[MeenieWK]

^^^ brian.. I assume Eben sou mention the twin brother sou suggest stallone played both roles which would have allowed for both his ego and the execs to be happy, without theneed for Dredd to remove his helmet?

 

[MeenieWK]

Apologies for the gibberish, apple touch screens aren't as good as people seem to think

 

[KenK]

^^^ brian.. I assume Eben sou mention the twin brother sou suggest stallone played both roles which would have allowed for both his ego and the execs to be happy, without theneed for Dredd to remove his helmet?

I suppose, but clearly, the storyline of Dredd being accused of murder would suffer among general audiences when you figure it'd make no sense for Dredd to have his helmet on while incarcerated. Failing that, you'd have to be incredibly, and ultimately annoyingly blatant in obscuring Stallone's face if he did remove his helmet after being prosecuted.

Furthermore, Stallone playing Rico would mean playing the villain of the film. When was the last time you saw Stallone play a villain? (excluding the 3rd Spy Kids film, of course). Ego, especially around that time, would have definitely played a factor in making that an unlikely avenue.

 

[rogue trooper]

I suppose, but clearly, the storyline of Dredd being accused of murder would suffer among general audiences when you figure it'd make no sense for Dredd to have his helmet on while incarcerated. Failing that, you'd have to be incredibly, and ultimately annoyingly blatant in obscuring Stallone's face if he did remove his helmet after being prosecuted.

Read the storyline "The Day The Law Died"(one of the inspirations for the 95' film). In this one Dredd is framed and put on trial. It was handled quite simply. If they would have set up the film in a different way than they did, it would probably have worked like it did in the comic. The problem was the film's script second-guessed the source material.

In the comic, Dredd's helmet isn't removed when he is put on trial. With the exception of the Chief-Judges, all of the Judges present have their helmets on. It works because this reflects the absurdity of this totalitarian future.

Also, when he is taken on the trek to the Penal Colony, Dredd isn't put with the general population in the shuttle, but in a solitary confinement with one guard and Dredd still wears his uniform with helmet. Readers can assume his attire will be stripped from him once they arrive at the Penal Colony. Ofcourse, Dredd escapes before reaching that destination.

Furthermore, Stallone playing Rico would mean playing the villain of the film. When was the last time you saw Stallone play a villain? (excluding the 3rd Spy Kids film, of course). Ego, especially around that time, would have definitely played a factor in making that an unlikely avenue.

"Death Race 2000"(whose protagonist, Frankenstein, inspired the look of Judge Dredd). He played the villain very convincingly.

 

[Paradox1]

Rico and Dread could of been paternal twins in addition they mentioned in the film that Dread got all the good genes. Seeing as though at that a movie called TWins was out with Arnold where twins had a similar situation where one was built to be an Adonis while the other was left with left overs. It was not that hard of a leap for me a guy who before that movie never heard of Judge Dread.

 

[corby]

I don't mind the size of the helmet; it looks pretty comic-accurate to me.

 

[rogue trooper]

Darn it! So much for the possibilities of a teaser being attached to Conan The Barbarian. I was already warmed up for this film to be released sometime between February or March of 2012, but no. September 2012.

Well, I guess the bright side to that is that they're going to have more than sufficient time to polish the film, particularly the 3D.

 

[KenK]

Rico and Dread could of been paternal twins in addition they mentioned in the film that Dread got all the good genes. Seeing as though at that a movie called TWins was out with Arnold where twins had a similar situation where one was built to be an Adonis while the other was left with left overs. It was not that hard of a leap for me a guy who before that movie never heard of Judge Dread.

I think you mean "fraternal".

"Death Race 2000"(whose protagonist, Frankenstein, inspired the look of Judge Dredd). He played the villain very convincingly.

Fair enough. Although that was before he had made a name for himself. By 95, Stallone's place in Hollywood was firmly established as "Action HERO". It's kind of like how Steven Segal was mad about having to die in Executive Decision. It was bad enough that he was essentially in a supporting role, playing second to Kurt Douglas.