Kinect and it's effects on the WORLD.

[ProjectPat2280]

I guess he is a Sony fan boy

Haha, nah Black Lantern is cool. I was quoting a line from Old School.

 

[Donut]

Haha, nah Black Lantern is cool. I was quoting a line from Old School.

Well he is still talking & acting like one

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Well he is still talking & acting like one

Haha, he's just not a motion control type of guy. Iv played Xbox Live games with him before. Theres better examples of bias in this thread thats not coming from him.

 

[BlackLantern]

not a Sony person at all...just find motion control very shallow and gimmicky

 

[Benstamania]

Motion control just seems "been there, done that" IMHO. Seriously, the Wii was out for what? Three years? Then Sony and Microsoft jumps on the bandwagon.... next E3 Nintendo will be talking about their new home console that will bring us 3D without glasses, much like the 3DS has done only on a grander scale.

 

[BlackLantern]

if I want to move and do something, I will go out for a run or go work out

 

[ProjectPat2280]

if I want to move and do something, I will go out for a run or go work out

But why not do both. You can have fun and do a workout. I hope Sean T, the trainer from the Insanity program puts out a Kinect game. Id love an actual game with the intensity of Insanity. But then again, i guess i could just do the Insanity workout again?

 

[ProjectPat2280]

But for those who have the Kinect, any games suggestions? Im thinking of maybe picking up that sports game, or dance central?

 

[BlackLantern]

But why not do both. You can have fun and do a workout. I hope Sean T, the trainer from the Insanity program puts out a Kinect game. Id love an actual game with the intensity of Insanity. But then again, i guess i could just do the Insanity workout again?

yea you could

 

[ProjectPat2280]

So my sister and i got the Kinect Sports and Dance Central. Both work really well and both are quite strenuous. Dance Central can really feel like a workout. I was pleased with how the sensor tracked my movements in both titles. I think an area where Kinect tops the Wii or Move is being able to use your feet. So playing a game like goal keeper, where you have to stop a bunch of soccer balls from scoring works really well because you can use your hands and feet to hit the ball. Bowling is also more intuitive without a controller. You just bowl. Iv never been big into motion controlled games, but the fact that Kinect really gets you moving, not just swinging your arms is pretty neat. I can see myself playing Dance Central for a quick workout or when i have parties and everyone is drunk.

 

[BlackLantern]

thats it PP...I see you on RDR this weekend, you are getting shot in the face

 

[ProjectPat2280]

thats it PP...I see you on RDR this weekend, you are getting shot in the face

LOL.

Dude, dancing is fun, what can i say. Soulja Boy tellem!

 

[BlackLantern]

In. The. Face. and your horse too

 

[StrainedEyes]

But for those who have the Kinect, any games suggestions? Im thinking of maybe picking up that sports game, or dance central?

From watching Giant Bomb's extensive live streaming of Kinect yesterday, the only games that look good are Kinect Sports, Kinectimals and Dance Central. Your Shape has a cool UI, but it is just a Wii Fit style thing. Kinect Joy Ride looked like a fine but really simple cart racer.

Everything else looked either busted or boring, and do not under any circumstances (except ironically) get MotionSports.

However, I highly suggest watching their MotionSports quick look because it derails in such an amazing way. "Oh please, alright let me reintroduce you two. Rider meet horse, horse meet rider."

 

[ProjectPat2280]

From watching Giant Bomb's extensive live streaming of Kinect yesterday, the only games that look good are Kinect Sports, Kinectimals and Dance Central. Your Shape has a cool UI, but it is just a Wii Fit style thing. Kinect Joy Ride looked like a fine but really simple cart racer.

Everything else looked either busted or boring, and do not under any circumstances (except ironically) get MotionSports.

However, I highly suggest watching their MotionSports quick look because it derails in such an amazing way. "Oh please, alright let me reintroduce you two. Rider meet horse, horse meet rider."

Yea, we got Kinect Sports and Dance Central, both are pretty damn fun. Altho my rhythm needs serious work. I wasnt even familiar with Motion Sports.

 

[Benstamania]

Got a LOT of good responses from people about Kinect today. If it's as good as I hear maybe I'll pick it up after the first of the year.

/Dr. Seuss.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Got a LOT of good responses from people about Kinect today. If it's as good as I hear maybe I'll pick it up after the first of the year.

/Dr. Seuss.

LOL. Nice rhyme, nice rhyme.


IMO, its a neat device and theres room to grow, however if you really aren't in to motion type gaming, the likes we've seen with the Wii and Move(altho Kinect is more intuitive than both) then i dont see much need for one due to the limited support outside of games. Right now, the only thing you can control with Kinect is ESPN, Zune and LastFM(i think theres one or two others but i didnt bother to remember them). If they add Netflix support in, ill be super stoked.

 

[Benstamania]

I <3 the Wii. Haters keep hatin'.

 

[Iceman]

Pls correct me if I'm mistaken as I've not been keeping up with developments.

The lo-res camera (to keep costs down) seems a bit disappointing for the potential of Kinect with more advanced games. Obviously it is at least initially aimed at casual gamers but I'd personally prefer a higher grade product even if more expensive. Then if they could combine this upgraded product with a current 360 controller we would have something really special & groundbreaking on our hands.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Pls correct me if I'm mistaken as I've not been keeping up with developments.

The lo-res camera (to keep costs down) seems a bit disappointing for the potential of Kinect with more advanced games. Obviously it is at least initially aimed at casual gamers but I'd personally prefer a higher grade product even if more expensive. Then if they could combine this upgraded product with a current 360 controller we would have something really special & groundbreaking on our hands.

They are still losing money per unit, they are just losing less money then they initial would have if they kept the higher quality camera.

It is a shame because the video chat now looks kind of bad, and the camera can't detect as much as it used to.

The original Kinect had a much higher resolution (over twice that of the final model's 320x240), and as such, was able to not only recognise the limbs of a player as the current model version can, but their fingers as well (which the current version can't). And when the hardware could recognise fingers, it would have been able to read sign language.

But that capability came at a cost, and while Microsoft had always intended Kinect to sell for $150, "dumbing down" the camera would have meant that Microsoft wouldn't be losing as much money on each unit sold, an important point should Kinect prove to be a failure. So dumb it down they did, reducing the camera's resolution (which in turn reduced the number of appendages it'd have to track) and placing the burden for some of the device's processing on the console and not Kinect's own hardware.

http://kotaku.com/5609840/kinect-dumbed-down-to-save-money-cant-read-sign-language

 

[Benstamania]

The number 1 reason why I hope Kinect ISN'T a failure is I'd like to see improved Kinect tech worked INTO the next Xbox. That would be pretty sweet, IMHO.

 

[Havok83]

Pls correct me if I'm mistaken as I've not been keeping up with developments.

The lo-res camera (to keep costs down) seems a bit disappointing for the potential of Kinect with more advanced games. Obviously it is at least initially aimed at casual gamers but I'd personally prefer a higher grade product even if more expensive. Then if they could combine this upgraded product with a current 360 controller we would have something really special & groundbreaking on our hands.

you might be willing to pay more but the current $150 is still too much for many people. I think it was for the best on MS part by making it more affordable as that allows it to be more marketable.

 

[Iceman]

They are still losing money per unit, they are just losing less money then they initial would have if they kept the higher quality camera.

It is a shame because the video chat now looks kind of bad, and the camera can't detect as much as it used to.


http://kotaku.com/5609840/kinect-dumbed-down-to-save-money-cant-read-sign-language

Thanks for the link.

Shame that companies still have to lose money on hardware a lot of the time. So the original version would have cost them a hell of a lot!

you might be willing to pay more but the current $150 is still too much for many people. I think it was for the best on MS part by making it more affordable as that allows it to be more marketable.

Agreed

 

[Iceman]

The number 1 reason why I hope Kinect ISN'T a failure is I'd like to see improved Kinect tech worked INTO the next Xbox. That would be pretty sweet, IMHO.

Yeah, I know 360s are still selling & could have their lifecycle extended well beyond the average age of a console...but some of the games I like seem to be pushing the 360 to its limit. I'm looking forward to the next Xbox by when hopefully an advanced super hi-res version of Kinect (integrated with hand controller for advanced games) will be available.

 

[Havok83]

Agreed

I deifnetly feel you bc I have the same issue with the PS Eye. The camera image quality is horrible. Id have rather Sony release a premium model for those who would be willing to pay for an HD camera but doing so would probably just confuse the general public