Kong: Skull Island - Part 3

[roach]

Please, do they call him King Kong?

Spoiler

No they do not call him King Kong

 

[Guts]

They are talking about the movie. Not the show.

They could be talking about the show. The intro is giving me some Brie Larson vibes.
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[Guts]

Please, do they call him King Kong?

John C Reily did say in the second trailer "That's Kong, he's king around here." I guess that kinda counts.

 

[harryoscop]

Spoiler

No they do not call him King Kong

Spoiler

WHAT?! So he's not even King Kong. Im just annoyed they keep calling him "Kong' and not 'King Kong' hell, Godzilla vs. King Kong is being called Godzilla vs. Kong? Huh? is it a rights issue thing? It's a minor gripe but it kinda bugs me

 

[Sithborg]

As far as I know Universal owns the name "King Kong" which is why this film had to be named Kong: Skull Island instead of King Kong: Skull Island. If he isn't called king Kong in the film it's because of Universal's ownership of that name.

Pretty certain Universal is lending them the Kong rights. The rights situation is a crazy mess, which is why I doubt GvKK will be outright scrapped.

 

[roach]

As far as I know Universal owns the name "King Kong" which is why this film had to be named Kong: Skull Island instead of King Kong: Skull Island. If he isn't called king Kong in the film it's because of Universal's ownership of that name.

I don't think this is true. Since the eventual fight movie is called Godzilla vs King Kong.
As I understand it the rights aren't at Universal but with Legendary. They were originally going to distribute through Universal but when they wanted to fight the two big monsters..they entered talks to move the distribution to WB.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/kong-skull-island-move-warner-821943

 

[roach]

Spoiler

WHAT?! So he's not even King Kong. Im just annoyed they keep calling him "Kong' and not 'King Kong' hell, Godzilla vs. King Kong is being called Godzilla vs. Kong? Huh? is it a rights issue thing? It's a minor gripe but it kinda bugs me

to be fair in the other movies he's only called King Kong when they bring him in chains and try to market him as a wonder of the world. Its not a rights issue as Legendary has the rights

 

[harryoscop]

As far as I know Universal owns the name "King Kong" which is why this film had to be named Kong: Skull Island instead of King Kong: Skull Island. If he isn't called king Kong in the film it's because of Universal's ownership of that name.

But they're lending them the rights to Kong? It's not like he's public domain

 

[Sithborg]

But they're lending them the rights to Kong? It's not like he's public domain

Yes, they are. It is about the only crossover Toho would allow.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Spoiler

WHAT?! So he's not even King Kong. Im just annoyed they keep calling him "Kong' and not 'King Kong' hell, Godzilla vs. King Kong is being called Godzilla vs. Kong? Huh? is it a rights issue thing? It's a minor gripe but it kinda bugs me

I believe he is King Kong.

 

[Marvolo]

I checked just to be sure, and y'all are right Universal doesn't own exclusive rights to the name King Kong.

 

[terry78]

Just call him Donkey Kong and be done with it.

 

[AnneFan]

This is probably a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway.

Spoiler

Is this Kong still destined to suffer the same tragic NYC fate the other incarnations befall sometime in the future, even though they'll likely never show it?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

No. This time he is turned away at the airport.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I checked just to be sure, and y'all are right Universal doesn't own exclusive rights to the name King Kong.

Nope. That's how Nintendo gets to use Donkey Kong without anyone trouble.

 

[DACrowe]

This is probably a dumb question, but I'll ask anyway.

Spoiler

Is this Kong still destined to suffer the same tragic NYC fate the other incarnations befall sometime in the future, even though they'll likely never show it?

Not unless it occurs in Godzilla vs. Kong. Right now the only thing that seems destined for him is a fight night.

 

[kickass]

No. This time he is turned away at the airport.

CRYING

 

[Drizzle]

I thought Kong: Skull Island was more or less on par with Godzilla 14. Enjoyable, but nothing jaw-dropping. The human characters were more interesting here and the monster designs were better than the MUTOs, but the final fight was a bit more impressive in Godzilla. That being said, I still didn't think any of the fights here were more impressive than the Kong vs. T-Rexes fight from the Peter Jackson film.

 

[redhawk23]

Spoiler

WHAT?! So he's not even King Kong. Im just annoyed they keep calling him "Kong' and not 'King Kong' hell, Godzilla vs. King Kong is being called Godzilla vs. Kong? Huh? is it a rights issue thing? It's a minor gripe but it kinda bugs me

I'm pretty sure they only call him Kong in the original film. The movie title was only changed later to avoid confusion with a similarly named film.

 

[redhawk23]

Video game director Hideo Kojima has written a review of the film and an analysis of how it differs from the rest of the American Kong films.

Vogt-Roberts is a huge Kojima fan and us set to adapt Metal Gear. He must be over theoom with this write up.
http://www.glixel.com/news/kojima-on-how-kong-skull-island-reinvigorates-monster-movies-w471620

 

[JtheDreamer]

Why do I put myself thru these movies.

When someone the other day mentioned that Max Borenstein wrote the screenplay for Godzilla and Kong as well - immediately my hopes for it sank. This film has all the same problems 'Zilla did - except there's no Bryan Cranston.

Ironically when the original trailer dropped I thought John C. Reilly was going to ruin the movie - but it's only his character who on occasion managed to make me forget what I was watching. Motivations are worse than paper thin (especially SLJ's and Goodman's). The roles were terribly miscast for the most part. Jason Mitchell was the WORST of it. His line delivery was downright awful and just an outright annoying character.

This film can't hold a candle to Peter Jackson's. That film had heart and wonderment. Between SLJ's warp speed descent into jungle-induced lunacy to one singular moment where Brie Larson touches Kong and suddenly they're bonded - it was just all-around awful. The creature design for the Skull Crawlers was bland and misplaced. Lots of mindless characters doing mindless thing (especially in the first fight vs. Kong). I wish they would've scrapped everything prior to when they set out for Skull Island. It was basically needless and could've been incorporated thru better dialogue as they journeyed to the northside of the island.

Clearly this movie was fast-tracked to get the wheels moving on the Kaiju-verse. I mean seriously the whole "this is their world" stuff was just cringe-worthy. Amazes me hack writers get paid to put a movie like this together. By the way, to show you how little momentum this film has going for it - this was my theater during previews at an 8:40pm MST showing in 3D at one of the finest theaters in my city on a Friday night:

 

[redhawk23]

I'm pretty sure borenstein only got a credit on this due to guild rules and the like. Pretty much everything from what the studio had Anne's for theovke got thrown out when Vogt Roberts. Convinced them to move it from 1917 to the 1970s.

The first fight with Kong they are straight up ambushed and knocked out of the air. Not sure what you're describing as "mindless."

You're right that the bits with Brie Larson don't really work, luckily they don't focus on that aspect pretty much at all.

 

[brandeezy89]

It's currently tracking higher than the estimates. It's at 52M+ OW right now

 

[Sithborg]

Deadline's estimates based on matinees are a bit shaky.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

http://deadline.com/2017/03/kong-skull-island-logan-weekend-box-office-get-out-1202040377/

Here’s one piece of good news about Warner Bros./Legendary’s Kong: Skull Island : The movie is beating its tracking estimates with an estimated $52.5M opening, after logging $20M today. Four weeks ago, tracking for Kong: Skull Island was in the trash with a mid-$40M opening projection, and that would have been truly disastrous for this $185M monster epic.