Lord of the Advice: Return of the King of Relationships

[Anita18]

That's television not reality. I use to become really good friends with the people my friends would date but after they broke up, I always sided with my original friend.

I met my best friend through my ex-bf. We broke up amicably so no friends had to pick sides. She did say that if I were to go down the dramatic route, she'd take his side out of respect for their history. But as it turns out, we talk more with each other than either of us with him.

Also Dreadstar....if comic girl is really into you, age doesn't matter. But a 25 year difference is an immensely large one. I'm 28. 25 years ago I couldn't even write in full sentences. Once you hit adulthood the growth is less dramatic of course, but it can still be palpable. She might want different things from a relationship 5 years down the line. You might be ready for kids, she might still want to party. But that's all just putting the cart before the horse. Since you are so much older than her, everyone's going to assume you have the upper hand in the relationship anyway. Why not adopt that attitude?

Also, just checking.....she IS legal, right?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

That's television not reality. I use to become really good friends with the people my friends would date but after they broke up, I always sided with my original friend.

That's television examples I was using to illustrate what is my reality.

What's being friendly with people you're actual friends start dating got to do with what I'm talking about?

I'm talking about a group of people that are already friends. One of that group starts dating another. They break up. They kind of HAVE to get back to a level of friendship because everyone in that group is friends with both of them.

I used friends and HIMYM as an example because something like Ross and Rachel's break up is a perfect illustration of what I was talking about.

You wanna hang out in the same coffee house, spend time with the same friends etc, you gotta figure out a way to be around each other.

And eventually, because you are all so close, you'll end up calliing each other friends again.

Like I previously said, I wouldn't go out of my way to be mean to her, but I wouldn't be at her beck and call friend.

I know Nave swears up and down, that he could be friends again, but playing the odds, and my own experiences, plus other posters who have recited similar stories, it usually ends the same way.

For some people, maybe you're right. I guess all I'm doing is offering the perspective of someone who HAS been able to keep friendships going after relationshipy messes.

Because it's totally possible, and I am so glad I did, because I have so many people in my life I care about and who care about me.

Also, I'm not a fan of settling. Nave wanted more, she didn't. Why should he have to settle for something less than what he wanted.

That's ridiculous to me. It's like going to the supermarket because you have a craving for a chocolate bar and not getting any because they didn't have the specific one you had in mind...

If you can't get that one, you settle for option number 2, which is still enjoyable even if it's not what you were craving.

So you'd be cool if your boyfriend was still really good friends with his ex? They could hang out? Drink together? Maybe one night she had too much, it's cool if she stays at his place right?

As much trust you have for a significant other, there also has to be respect.

Totally depends on the situation.

I mean, I've been out with a guy who had no respect for me, and it was horrible.

He had a picture of his ex on the wall and refused to take it down. When she came to visit, she slept 'on the floor' in his room and I slept on the couch... Yeah, I'm not proud of what I put up with when it comes to my ex.

He also used to spend a lot of time with a female friend who was openly 'in love with him', and he'd constantly blow me off so he could be with her.

Of course ironically, he never cheated on me with a woman, but with men in the end.

But those are extremes.

If a guy has a friend he's known since his teens, and she and he still hang out together sometimes, and they did have a sort of a thing once but it was never serious, and you can see from the way they act around each other that they are just good friends... Then no, them spending time together, drinking together and even passing out in his room would be okay with me. Especially if the guy showed some concern for how I'd feel about it.

Now I'd be hypocrite if I said exes can't be friends. I met up with an ex, a while back when I was dating someone else. Nothing went on, but it was pretty much a one time deal. They were in town for a few days. We had lunch and I took them sight seeing.

But, to hang out with them every week and then giving a significant other, attitude because they are uncomfortable with all the time I'm spending with them? Well, that just shows how little I think of their feelings and how unwilling I am to compromise.

But why does it have to be alone? I mean, if I found a guy I'd work pretty hard at spending time with his friends too, so that we could all spend time with each other.

But... but... but he'd be Welsh...

I don't think I can look at you the same anymore...

It's okay, he wasn't welsh, he was from Somerset just like me!

 

[Erzengel]

That's television examples I was using to illustrate what is my reality.

What's being friendly with people you're actual friends start dating got to do with what I'm talking about?

I'm talking about a group of people that are already friends. One of that group starts dating another. They break up. They kind of HAVE to get back to a level of friendship because everyone in that group is friends with both of them.

I used friends and HIMYM as an example because something like Ross and Rachel's break up is a perfect illustration of what I was talking about.

You wanna hang out in the same coffee house, spend time with the same friends etc, you gotta figure out a way to be around each other.

And eventually, because you are all so close, you'll end up calliing each other friends again.

We're friends with this girl who has been boyfriend/girlfriend, almost fiances with this guy. Guy cheated on her. However, they were totally entwined with friends and family, etc. It was really hard for her to break from them.

In the end, she got other friends because it was hard because most of her "friends" were still really good friends with her ex.

For some people, maybe you're right. I guess all I'm doing is offering the perspective of someone who HAS been able to keep friendships going after relationshipy messes.

Because it's totally possible, and I am so glad I did, because I have so many people in my life I care about and who care about me.

I'm never saying it's impossible, just highly unlikely.

That's ridiculous to me. It's like going to the supermarket because you have a craving for a chocolate bar and not getting any because they didn't have the specific one you had in mind...

If you can't get that one, you settle for option number 2, which is still enjoyable even if it's not what you were craving.

And it's ridiculous to me, if you have really strong feelings for someone and they don't reciprocate, you hang around. Because for A LOT of people, they stay in that "friendship" because they fool themselves thinking they can handle it. And more often times then not, they get upset if their friend starts dating someone else or says something about some sort of suitor and it ends up crushing the other person.

You really can't just turn off feelings and UNLESS you are dating someone else, or have other things going,

And many people aren't really being true friends because they area harboring some unrequited feelings.

Totally depends on the situation.

I mean, I've been out with a guy who had no respect for me, and it was horrible.

He had a picture of his ex on the wall and refused to take it down. When she came to visit, she slept 'on the floor' in his room and I slept on the couch... Yeah, I'm not proud of what I put up with when it comes to my ex.

He also used to spend a lot of time with a female friend who was openly 'in love with him', and he'd constantly blow me off so he could be with her.

Of course ironically, he never cheated on me with a woman, but with men in the end.

But those are extremes.

If a guy has a friend he's known since his teens, and she and he still hang out together sometimes, and they did have a sort of a thing once but it was never serious, and you can see from the way they act around each other that they are just good friends... Then no, them spending time together, drinking together and even passing out in his room would be okay with me. Especially if the guy showed some concern for how I'd feel about it.

But why does it have to be alone? I mean, if I found a guy I'd work pretty hard at spending time with his friends too, so that we could all spend time with each other.

Couple points I want to make.

Eventually as you get older, most friends take a back seat to who you're dating/engaged/living with/marry.

If you're spending more time with an ex, than who you're actually dating, that should be a red flag.

If you're going out of your way more for friends than who you're actually dating, that should be a red flag.

Moderation is key, and obviously there are always extremes. Hanging out with an ex in a group setting every once and a while, I personally would be okay with.

Hanging out with ex almost as much as spending time with me, I think there's something wrong with that.

And if you do want to throw in a TV sitcom reference, in HIMYM, Robin does tell her 2 exes that she needed some time with her new boyfriend and work on their relationship, instead of constantly hanging out with them.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

We're friends with this girl who has been boyfriend/girlfriend, almost fiances with this guy. Guy cheated on her. However, they were totally entwined with friends and family, etc. It was really hard for her to break from them.

In the end, she got other friends because it was hard because most of her "friends" were still really good friends with her ex.

Well yeah, it's a LOT harder if you've broken up on bad terms. But not all relationships end that badly.

I'm not saying at all that it's easy to be friends again if you're ex has cheated on you.

I'm never saying it's impossible, just highly unlikely.

Meh. Not in my world

And it's ridiculous to me, if you have really strong feelings for someone and they don't reciprocate, you hang around. Because for A LOT of people, they stay in that "friendship" because they fool themselves thinking they can handle it. And more often times then not, they get upset if their friend starts dating someone else or says something about some sort of suitor and it ends up crushing the other person.

You really can't just turn off feelings and UNLESS you are dating someone else, or have other things going,

And many people aren't really being true friends because they area harboring some unrequited feelings.

That was true when I was younger. I used to hang around a friend of mine I was 'in love' with, and I would always be there when he needed me, and I was totally hoping for more the whole time.

Eventually I did get more. And I got hurt bad, and it was this massive drama.

But funnily enough, we grew up. We talked about it a while down the line, about how insane the whole thing was. He apologised, I apologised. We hooked up again... And I dumped him, cause I realised I totally didn't have feelings for him.

And now, after years of back and forth, we are totally plutonic friends. We go out, with other people as well, and we laugh and joke. He works next door to me so he pops into my office and chats with me a few times a week. There's just no feelings there anymore.

Couple points I want to make.

Eventually as you get older, most friends take a back seat to who you're dating/engaged/living with/marry.

If you're spending more time with an ex, than who you're actually dating, that should be a red flag.

If you're going out of your way more for friends than who you're actually dating, that should be a red flag.

Moderation is key, and obviously there are always extremes. Hanging out with an ex in a group setting every once and a while, I personally would be okay with.

Hanging out with ex almost as much as spending time with me, I think there's something wrong with that.

And if you do want to throw in a TV sitcom reference, in HIMYM, Robin does tell her 2 exes that she needed some time with her new boyfriend and work on their relationship, instead of constantly hanging out with them.

Honestly, I can't say what I'll be like when I actually get an adult relationship. Perhaps I will take a step back from my friends.

And hey, I'm moving away. And I know that any friendships I make won't be the same group dynamics I'm used to. I'm going to experience a whole different world, and it's pretty exciting to me

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I just think if you grow to fall for someone who was your friend, it's because they are an awesome person that you really love having in your life.

And I think it sucks if you have to loose that awesome person from your life just because you can't handle the fact it can't be anything more.

I mean, I'm sort in a situation right now where I maybe a little bit fell for a very close male friend and he doesn't feel the same way.

It got all weird before he went to Thailand, we kind of both confessed to being a bit confused because we kept hooking up and we were really close, but sort of agreed it's not a place we should go. And it brought up a whole mess of feelings for me.

It's been a few months gap while he's been abroad, he comes back, and we are both perfectly capable of slipping straight back into the friendship we were comfortable with before.

Do I still have mixed feelings? Sure. But why does that have to mean I should avoid him and ignore him? That'd make things MUCH more awkward since I have to see him around sometimes, we have all our friends in common. And besides... I don't want to ignore him. I love the guy to bits, I love his company. He's one of the few people I can have a real conversation with or can go out for a quite drink on our own, and vice versa. How does it hurt me to be his friend?

And I think it's the same for Nave. All you have to do is stop trying to be anything more, and do not expect anything more, and you can enjoy being around that person again.

Exactly. Though, honestly, I get that it's probably not the most emotionally comfortable place to be in initially, but it's possible. I think you put it well here, she's been a good friend in the past but a terrible date, and it had me rattled. Can I get past that? I think so. It's not like I'm considering anything more.

The important thing that you, Erz, and Opitmus pointed out here is what I agree with: not take the first step. And honestly, I didn't. She came up to me and started talking. It's not that weird... I was a bit terrified by the idea that I'd be hurting again by the sight of her, but confronting that is much more better than simply avoiding her completely. We had lunch together today and she started to talk about her b/f again, I told her I didn't want to have that conversation. She said that was fair. Then we talked about work. It was good to be able to talk to her again, sans dramatic tension.

Let me go a step further, say what if you or Nave met someone else, how would you explain your friend who went to Thailand or Nave's "friend"? Not sure how things are in your area, but a lot of people would be uneasy with that.

This is a very good question--and i see how it's different from being simply "a good friend from the opposite gender" because that sisterly vibe sort of diminishes with the history. But it's possible -- physical language right? I'm not gushy over her, and I'm willing to bet that it shows. A girl would be able to read that I'm not interested in the other person standing next to me.

...Right?

But when it comes to friendship groups, is it really so different outside of a small town? I mean, if you all hang out in the same bar scene together or something, you're bound to keep running into each other, no matter what size the town is. One person would have to consciously leave the friendship group or you would have to learn to get along. Shows like Friends and How I Met Your Mother have given perfect examples of that sort of thing.

Or for example, I lived in Cardiff for 3 years for uni. Didn't stop me from dating a guy for two weeks, then dumping him, then not seeing him for a while, then going back to being friends and having a laugh together if we were at the same party or in the same class.

And it's certainly a similar situation for Nave, who has friends in common with this girl, has classes with this girl, and may even soon be working with this girl.

I mean, what is he supposed to do. Be robotic around her? Be weird and distant?

Just talk to her. Be friends again.

You don't have to suddenly start spending all your time with her and pining after her again. I just don't see how you can actively TRY and not be her friend in that situation, and why you would want too.

As for the question of how a partner would feel about my male friendships - well that's a hurdle I will have to deal with one day.

I will say this though. If I have any close male friends at the time, I certainly won't be dropping them because it makes my partner uncomfortable.

I'll be dropping said partner if me being close friends with a guy makes him uncomfortable.

Yup. But it's also very, very, very, very important that the "close friend" is a "close friend" and not anything else. We're in agreement with the rest

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Fling girl wants to see where this thing will go. The FACT that she was willing to introduce me to her friends suggests that she is interested in more. The fact that she went with me to Avengers suggests she is trying to be a part of my world. The fact that I blew off her friends suggests to her that I am not interested in anything long term with her. (which I am trying to fix).

My friend says its too late and fling girl and I are done because I blew off her friends! She is going out of town with a friend this weekend. My friends says that I am going to come up as a topic of conversation. He says fling girls friend is going to say something like this, " Yes, the sex is great with your guy but he blew off your friends, this guy is a jack#@! so dump him!"

Am I correct ?

Ok, unless comic girl is underage and using a fake ID, you have to be at least 46 years old and you can't tell this girl you call fling girl is interested in you? She met you and took down her dating profile and she wants to introduce you to her friends. The only thing "bad thing" she's done seems like having sex with you very soon, which isn't really a bad thing. Stop listening to any friends telling you this is a fling, hell stop listening to you internal voice. If you like this girl try to make a go of it, stop acted like someone in their early 20's and being a commitment phobe.

 

[Erzengel]

That was true when I was younger. I used to hang around a friend of mine I was 'in love' with, and I would always be there when he needed me, and I was totally hoping for more the whole time.

Eventually I did get more. And I got hurt bad, and it was this massive drama.

But funnily enough, we grew up. We talked about it a while down the line, about how insane the whole thing was. He apologised, I apologised. We hooked up again... And I dumped him, cause I realised I totally didn't have feelings for him.

And now, after years of back and forth, we are totally plutonic friends. We go out, with other people as well, and we laugh and joke. He works next door to me so he pops into my office and chats with me a few times a week. There's just no feelings there anymore.

I should just add #smalltowndynamic to some of my posts. But obviously where you are is totally different from the conservative area Nave is and obviously the densely populated area I'm in.

I have an ex who's a a teacher in a town, next door to where my fiance grew up. Been a teacher there for 8-9 years and I never ran into them.

My point is, it's easier just to sever ties where I am because, you can totally never see someone again.

Honestly, I can't say what I'll be like when I actually get an adult relationship. Perhaps I will take a step back from my friends.

And hey, I'm moving away. And I know that any friendships I make won't be the same group dynamics I'm used to. I'm going to experience a whole different world, and it's pretty exciting to me

Love to hear a story where you're dating someone in the new city and one of your male friends wants to visit and stay with you.

This is a very good question--and i see how it's different from being simply "a good friend from the opposite gender" because that sisterly vibe sort of diminishes with the history. But it's possible -- physical language right? I'm not gushy over her, and I'm willing to bet that it shows. A girl would be able to read that I'm not interested in the other person standing next to me.

...Right?

Depends on who you are with. I've known some people who would get jealous about someone watching a show that had a specific celebrity. Others who frowned upon viewing pornography. Others who couldn't even look at another person without there being an hour argument. And yes each example, I have a different person in mind. It's not all the same person.

I'm with someone totally cool who trusts me but I've earned that trust. It's funny, my fiance has a very attractive former co-worker, that I get along with pretty well. I wouldn't even mind hanging out with them. But even though my fiance wouldn't have a problem with it, it would feel a little weird.

 

[Anita18]

Ok, unless comic girl is underage and using a fake ID, you have to be at least 46 years old and you can't tell this girl you call fling girl is interested in you? She met you and took down her dating profile and she wants to introduce you to her friends. The only thing "bad thing" she's done seems like having sex with you very soon, which isn't really a bad thing. Stop listening to any friends telling you this is a fling, hell stop listening to you internal voice. If you like this girl try to make a go of it, stop acted like someone in their early 20's and being a commitment phobe.

20s? I was sure Dreadstar was in his teens until he dropped the "I'm 25 years older than her" line.

Get a grip Dreadstar, and do what you want. Frankly "fling girl" sounds like a better bet than comic girl, considering the huuuuge age difference. Unless comic girl wants to settle down immediately (granted, I do know young women like this), you'll be throwing away what you have with someone who likely will have similar relationship goals down the line. More often than not, girls as young as comic girl will turn into fling girls in short order anyway. They just don't know who they are and what they want at that age.

Unless she is 30 and you're 55.

 

[Dreadstar]

I met my best friend through my ex-bf. We broke up amicably so no friends had to pick sides. She did say that if I were to go down the dramatic route, she'd take his side out of respect for their history. But as it turns out, we talk more with each other than either of us with him.

Also Dreadstar....if comic girl is really into you, age doesn't matter. But a 25 year difference is an immensely large one. I'm 28. 25 years ago I couldn't even write in full sentences. Once you hit adulthood the growth is less dramatic of course, but it can still be palpable. She might want different things from a relationship 5 years down the line. You might be ready for kids, she might still want to party. But that's all just putting the cart before the horse. Since you are so much older than her, everyone's going to assume you have the upper hand in the relationship anyway. Why not adopt that attitude?

Also, just checking.....she IS legal, right?

YES, she is 20 something and I am
older 40 something

 

[Anita18]

YES, she is 20 something and I am
older 40 something

Okay, after going back and reading you other posts on this situation, it sounds like you aren't ready to settle down anyway and will be fine with just sex from a young thing. So do what you want here.

Granted, comic girl could also be all tease but no game. Sounds like you're having a good time in bed with fling girl, and unless you want to tell her you want an open relationship, you'll have to give her up before schtupping comic girl.

I don't recommend assuming fling girl feels that your relationship is a mere fling like you do, nor going behind her back to date comic girl. That kind of stuff tends to bite you in the ass. Unless you like that kind of drama, I have no skin in this game!

 

[terry78]

Goddammit, this place....

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Depends on who you are with. I've known some people who would get jealous about someone watching a show that had a specific celebrity. Others who frowned upon viewing pornography. Others who couldn't even look at another person without there being an hour argument. And yes each example, I have a different person in mind. It's not all the same person.

I'm with someone totally cool who trusts me but I've earned that trust. It's funny, my fiance has a very attractive former co-worker, that I get along with pretty well. I wouldn't even mind hanging out with them. But even though my fiance wouldn't have a problem with it, it would feel a little weird.

True. That actually reminds me of a problem a friend of mine was telling me about how his girlfriend can't stand the idea of him watching porn. I can see where that comes from. But like you said, depends on the person.

And it's completely understandable how that might seem weird, but I think you wrote down the more important factor in that relationship: Trust.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Ok, unless comic girl is underage and using a fake ID, you have to be at least 46 years old and you can't tell this girl you call fling girl is interested in you? She met you and took down her dating profile and she wants to introduce you to her friends. The only thing "bad thing" she's done seems like having sex with you very soon, which isn't really a bad thing. Stop listening to any friends telling you this is a fling, hell stop listening to you internal voice. If you like this girl try to make a go of it, stop acted like someone in their early 20's and being a commitment phobe.

Perhaps I'm not the person to tell people to be in relationships considering I get jollies out of f*****ing girls onstage in night clubs, but I'm gonna halfway side with AM15 and Anita here. On the one hand, do whatever you want, on the other hand, reading over your previous posts this seems more and more like you trying to recapture some youth, and...I dunno...comic girl just seems like she's teasing you. Your friends, and your internal voice for that matter, are gonna want the 21 year old. I would. She knows this, and it seems to me like when she hits you up it's for favors, or ego-stroking, and usually when that is all that is there you're walking into at best a letdown and at worst, a trap.

 

[Erzengel]

Dude, I thought Dreadstar was much younger.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Goddammit, this place....

lol yep, my feelings exactly... Compared to Dreadstar's.... issues, tackling Nell2ThaIzzy's celibacy problem was a walk in the park. I'm going to check this thread again in a week and hope people have moved on to dissecting another poster's bizarre "love-life."

 

[Dreadstar]

Ok, now comic chick is starting to drive me nuts. Its NOT even 5 and she is texting me AGAIN! AND SHE IS STILL AT WORK!!!! WTF? I thought when she said she is going to text me, it was going to be at around 830-9!! And she is telling me what she has to do to finish her shift and then she says she is free! I think she wants me to ask her to go out for a bite to eat and a drink! WTF? I am already seeing her tomorrow and Friday! Is this not enough? I will drive her home both nights, so we will chat all the way home and prob park in front of her place and chat some more. What exactly am I suppose to text her about?

She is getting clingy and we are just friends!(or are we?) But I DO like the attention!

I bet tomorrow on her day off, she is going to text me at work! I dont understand how she likes to text me everyday! She needs a hobby that is not me.

 

[Lord Valumart]

Urgh, I totally missed the perfect chance to ask out this girl at work today. We were alone in the staff room drinking tea and talking all geeky about stuff and I was like "can I make this awkward?" with the full intention of asking her for food, and she was like "o...k...?" and then I froze and became a landshark. Then she became a landshark. Then someone came in the room and asked us what the hell we were doing.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

You had a good opener! But yeah, you f***ed that sh** right up.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Ok, now comic chick is starting to drive me nuts. Its NOT even 5 and she is texting me AGAIN! AND SHE IS STILL AT WORK!!!! WTF? I thought when she said she is going to text me, it was going to be at around 830-9!! And she is telling me what she has to do to finish her shift and then she says she is free! I think she wants me to ask her to go out for a bite to eat and a drink! WTF? I am already seeing her tomorrow and Friday! Is this not enough? I will drive her home both nights, so we will chat all the way home and prob park in front of her place and chat some more. What exactly am I suppose to text her about?

She is getting clingy and we are just friends!(or are we?) But I DO like the attention!

I bet tomorrow on her day off, she is going to text me at work! I dont understand how she likes to text me everyday! She needs a hobby that is not me.

You read way too far into things.

 

[Dreadstar]

You read way too far into things.

OK, your prob right. But why does she feel the need to text me everyday? She is not texting anyone else everyday!

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Urgh, I totally missed the perfect chance to ask out this girl at work today. We were alone in the staff room drinking tea and talking all geeky about stuff and I was like "can I make this awkward?" with the full intention of asking her for food, and she was like "o...k...?" and then I froze and became a landshark. Then she became a landshark. Then someone came in the room and asked us what the hell we were doing.

Well, you definitely made things awkward.

 

[Lord Valumart]

You had a good opener! But yeah, you f***ed that sh** right up.

Oh yeh, I screwed up big time on that one. But I think something has to be said for the fact she also became a landshark... right?

 

[Dreadstar]

A landshark! LOL

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

OK, your prob right. But why does she feel the need to text me everyday? She is not texting anyone else everyday!

Do you know she isn't? That's probably normal for her. Don't assume she does these things because of you.

Look, y'all haven't dated yet. Haven't had sex. There's been opportunities over the last two years and nothing. has. happened.

I'm not saying nothing well by why get excited about something you don't know is going to happen? You. Need. To. Play. It. Cool.

Stop questioning and second guessing every move she makes. Stop digging for the ulterior motive. You're going out tomorrow? Or Friday? Whatever. You'll find out what you'll need to know there. She's said n-o-t-h-i-n-g explicit to you yet. In my opinion that's classic toying with you and you become the friend when you buy into it.

Play. It. Cool.

Every text and Facebook like isn't worth your undivided attention. Fling Girl has already earned twice the respect your giving Comic Girl. She's a c***tease until she proves otherwise.

 

[Anita18]

Ok, now comic chick is starting to drive me nuts. Its NOT even 5 and she is texting me AGAIN! AND SHE IS STILL AT WORK!!!! WTF? I thought when she said she is going to text me, it was going to be at around 830-9!! And she is telling me what she has to do to finish her shift and then she says she is free! I think she wants me to ask her to go out for a bite to eat and a drink! WTF? I am already seeing her tomorrow and Friday! Is this not enough? I will drive her home both nights, so we will chat all the way home and prob park in front of her place and chat some more. What exactly am I suppose to text her about?

She is getting clingy and we are just friends!(or are we?) But I DO like the attention!

I bet tomorrow on her day off, she is going to text me at work! I dont understand how she likes to text me everyday! She needs a hobby that is not me.

You don't know many 20-year-olds, do you?

There will be likely MUCH more of this if you bed her, keep that in mind. Gotta keep up if you wanna stay young!