Lord of the Advice: Return of the King of Relationships

[Darthphere]

Actually, she did have a choice. She could have easily sat on the floor where my feet were and I could have lifted up my feet.

When we had the water fight, there were many other people there who she knew that she could have caught a lift back to the bar with. So its not what your making it out to be.

Can I ask something about this water fight? You know about it ahead of time, to the point where you didn't want to mess up your car's interior so why didn't you guys take a change of clothes or towels? That's another minor detail that is bothering me.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

There was NO interpreting. She refereed to female body parts as being wet! I said I DO NOT UNDERSTAND! Why dont you understand this?

Why do you keep making this out to be something its not?

Why do you keep making this out to be something its not? Most of us told you to steer clear of this girl precisely because we felt you were misreading signals. Now you write a story that sounds really rapey. Really, really, really rapey, and get all defensive when like six posters are like "this is rapey".

 

[Dreadstar]

The water fight was NOT pre planned! It was spur of the moment. No towels or change of clothes!

Its not rapey, thats your subjective interpretation. Thats it. You were not there.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Can I ask something about this water fight? You know about it ahead of time, to the point where you didn't want to mess up your car's interior so why didn't you guys take a change of clothes or towels? That's another minor detail that is bothering me.

Yes, Dreadstar, your stories are absent many details. I also must confess the fact that your stories lack basic chronology is a little telling to. Most people who do weird sh** like to keep going back and adding excuses or justifications for what basically is the major red flag of the story (i.e. you groping someone).

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

The water fight was NOT pre planned! It was spur of the moment. No towels or change of clothes!

Its not rapey, thats your subjective interpretation. Thats it. You were not there.

Was it your intention to start it beforehand?

 

[Dreadstar]

If I put in all the details, you say its too long. The details, none of that was pre planned. Got it?

it was not my idea. I thought we were done. I did not want to go because my cars leather was going to get ruined.

We usually get together on Wednesdays and I usually give her a lift home. If all of a sudden she decided to find another way home, then you are all correct.

But I saw her Sunday night and gave her a ride home and there was no trouble. She was actually pretty close to home and could have taken a bus home. The bus would have been faster. She had choices.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

If I put in all the details, you say its too long. The details, none of that was pre planned. Got it?

No, I wouldn't. I've got until ten before I'm going out with this person who asked me out, so you have plenty of time there.

 

[Darthphere]

The 20 something girl so far.

The 20 something girl and me were at a scavenger hunt saturday. We were a team with another friend. So we had to go have a big water fight as part of the scavenger hunt challenge. BUT I did not want them in my car because I have leather seats and after the water fight, 3 people soaking wet sitting on my leather seats that would ruin them.

So we had to go in my friends smart car. My friend said she will have to sit on my lap. She was OK with this! We even seat belted us together in the seat. All the way there my friend and I were making sexual jokes about her being on top of me! LOL We had our water fight amongst ourselves first. The 23 year old jumped on my back and I went down on all 4s like a dog so they could get me wet. Fun stuff.

Anyways, as we were walking, someone sitting asked us about what we were doing. We told them and I went and said, " its all good! I get to have the 23 year old sit on my lap and she is all wet!" WOOHOO

Before we left to go back, she said that she was all wet! I was not thinking about her connotation, , so I asked her to explain. She could not believe that I did not get it (I was injured in the play fight and was attending to this) and mentioned a female body part. Then I told her, I am not even thinking about that, but since you mentioned it, I am all hard! And that set the tone for the ride home!

On the drive back I grabbed her leg twice and all the way and made sexual jokes. I told her things like" You said you wanted to get laid, well I can help you with that!"
And I would pretend like the car hit a bump and thrust into her body! LOL She sat there laughed and tried to act like she was not not enjoying this. She always got back
in the smart car on top of me.

I think this was important because I figure 2 things have to happen for me to bed this woman:

1. I have to make physical contact with her in a joking,
playful way. The smart car ride did that and then some

2. I have to get her to think of me in a sexual way. The smart car ride did that too.

So I think I will see how things go and allow the universe to guide me. I am not going to force anything and the above was not planned, it just unfolded.

Fling girl I am taking on a mountain vacation later this summer. Booked the motels and everything.

The water fight was NOT pre planned! It was spur of the moment. No towels or change of clothes!

Its not rapey, thats your subjective interpretation. Thats it. You were not there.

So how exactly was it not pre-planned?

 

[Dreadstar]

It was not pre planned. if it was, we would have had a change of clothes and towels. Got it?

 

[Darthphere]

Hmmm, I don't know....

 

[Dreadstar]

Hmmm, I don't know....

Thats right. You dont know. You were not there. And you seem to have a predisposition for your view. And she would have NEVER accepted a ride with me Sunday night when she could have jumped a bus and got home much faster!

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Thats right. You dont know. You were not there. And you seem to have a predisposition for your view. And she would have NEVER accepted a ride with me Sunday night when she could have jumped a bus and got home much faster!

Wait, when did the in-car grope happen? What day? Please, that's the part of the story I want to hear in detail.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Wait, when did the in-car grope happen? What day? Please, that's the part of the story I want to hear in detail.

Oh, and +1.

 

[Anita18]

 

[knowsbleed]

Look... all that flirting happened... yes... I understand. It was flirting. Really, overtly sexual flirting. What makes you seem like a creeper is the fact that you're bragging about how you groped and rubbed yourself all over her and you pretty much told us your method for putting subconscious thoughts into her head to get her in bed. All of us do that in some form or another, but we don't post it on a message board forum because it sounds really creepy.

 

[Dreadstar]

Look... all that flirting happened... yes... I understand. It was flirting. Really, overtly sexual flirting. What makes you seem like a creeper is the fact that you're bragging about how you groped and rubbed yourself all over her and you pretty much told us your method for putting subconscious thoughts into her head to get her in bed. All of us do that in some form or another, but we don't post it on a message board forum because it sounds really creepy.

Ok, you are correct. I am sorry. I should have said so, flirting. There was no "OMG! I am in trouble" tone to her voice.

I just DO NOT want to make a move and find out she is not into it. THEN there will be this awkwardness in the group.

SO for the time being, I do nothing.

 

[Darthphere]

Ok, you are correct. I a, sorry. I just DO NOT want to make a move and find out she is not into it. THEN there will be this awkwardness in the group.

SO for the time being, I do nothing.

Seems like we're way past that.

 

[Anita18]

Ok, you are correct. I am sorry. I should have said so, flirting. There was no "OMG! I am in trouble" tone to her voice.

I just DO NOT want to make a move and find out she is not into it. THEN there will be this awkwardness in the group.

SO for the time being, I do nothing.

I'm pretty sure dry humping one of your friends in the back of another friend's Smartcar is enough awkwardness in the group. Just saying.

 

[knowsbleed]

Depending on how experienced you are, there are definitely ways that you can convince HER to make the "move". Makes it more of an accomplishment.

 

[terry78]

Why do we act like if we screw up with one girl there are no more out there?

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Look... all that flirting happened... yes... I understand. It was flirting. Really, overtly sexual flirting. What makes you seem like a creeper is the fact that you're bragging about how you groped and rubbed yourself all over her and you pretty much told us your method for putting subconscious thoughts into her head to get her in bed. All of us do that in some form or another, but we don't post it on a message board forum because it sounds really creepy.

Well, that's not what I do. I'm mean when I say something sexual, like over the weekend I had a very adult conversation with a girl I think likes me about sex. She said she "I feel like I need to know someone for at least a year before having sex with them" (which it's getting close to). So when we do it we're looking for a response. So deflecting the conversation would be a negative response for example.

This story all reads like "I did this, I did that, I did this, I did that" and "that's all important for [tricking] her to have sex with me".

Seems to me, in light of what I've learned so far, that she doesn't want to have sex with him. He still thinks so/wants to/feels obligated to, so everything she does is a hint.

There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of give and take in this story.

 

[Anita18]

Then again this same girl apparently told another friend in the group to bite her bare ass. So I dunno what y'alls are hopped up on, frankly.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Why do we act like if we screw up with one girl there are no more out there?

Who is "we"?

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Then again this same girl apparently told another friend in the group to bite her bare ass. So I dunno what y'alls are hopped up on, frankly.

I'm almost wondering how hideous she really is. I'm considering that as a possibility.

 

[Dreadstar]

Depending on how experienced you are, there are definitely ways that you can convince HER to make the "move". Makes it more of an accomplishment.

She is submissive, so I dont think she would initiate a move but I could be wrong.

How do you convince her to make a move?