Luke Cage Luke Cage General Discussion Thread - Part 1

[BarryAllen]

 

[Faith_Cassidy]

When has Misty ever been portrayed in that manner? This plus her comments of her not reading the comics (I can understand for Ali and Woodard not reading any of the appearances of Cottonmouth/Black Mariah, but Misty has never been written in an 'unrealistic' or extremely 'comic-y' fashion) kinda dulls my hype a little. Hope she's not going to be a Misty in-name only.

I'm pretty sure that quote wasn't implying that Misty has ever been portrayed as those things, just that it would be easy for a modern version of the character to be portrayed as such, given the times we live in. I'm not at all worried about Misty's characterization, even with Simone not immersing herself in the comics. First of all, I get the reasoning behind that, as she didn't want to feel compelled to play the character a certain way. (Though Simone has said she did some research online.) Secondly, it all starts with the writing and from everything I've read, they are building a pretty accurate depiction of the character, starting with her being a great detective. Couple that with all the praise Simone has been getting and I don't understand why anyone would worry (at least not until the show is out and we see that they've dropped the ball).

I know some Elektra fans weren't happy with the changes the DD writers made to the character but I thought they maintained the essence of who she is and that's the most important thing to me with all of these live-action adaptations.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm pretty sure that quote wasn't implying that Misty has ever been portrayed as those things, just that it would be easy for a modern version of the character to be portrayed as such, given the times we live in. I'm not at all worried about Misty's characterization, even with Simone not immersing herself in the comics. First of all, I get the reasoning behind that, as she didn't want to feel compelled to play the character a certain way. (Though Simone has said she did some research online.) Secondly, it all starts with the writing and from everything I've read, they are building a pretty accurate depiction of the character, starting with her being a great detective. Couple that with all the praise Simone has been getting and I don't understand why anyone would worry (at least not until the show is out and we see that they've dropped the ball).

I know some Elektra fans weren't happy with the changes the DD writers made to the character but I thought they maintained the essence of who she is and that's the most important thing to me with all of these live-action adaptations.

I doubt the person who wrote the article actually reads the comics and knows that much about Misty Knight. Knight has never been corrupt or naive.

Maybe she means corrupt or naive because she's a police officer and all police officers have to be corrupt or naive at this point because it's cool to hate on cops these days and paint them all with a broad brush?

 

[Faith_Cassidy]

Again, I don't think the author is suggesting that Misty has ever been those things. In the sentence right before that, Misty is described as a "by-the-book cop" who clashes with Luke on how to get justice. That kind of a setup for this version of Misty, in the age/time we live in, opens the door for her to be portrayed as naive or corrupt but the show avoids such a depiction. The author is simply complimenting the writing for this version of Misty, not implying anything about comic Misty.

 

[BarryAllen]

 

[BarryAllen]

 

[TheVileOne]

Again, I don't think the author is suggesting that Misty has ever been those things. In the sentence right before that, Misty is described as a "by-the-book cop" who clashes with Luke on how to get justice. That kind of a setup for this version of Misty, in the age/time we live in, opens the door for her to be portrayed as naive or corrupt but the show avoids such a depiction. The author is simply complimenting the writing for this version of Misty, not implying anything about comic Misty.

There seems to be an implication there, either about cops or Misty.

 

[Web-Head]

Again, I don't think the author is suggesting that Misty has ever been those things. In the sentence right before that, Misty is described as a "by-the-book cop" who clashes with Luke on how to get justice. That kind of a setup for this version of Misty, in the age/time we live in, opens the door for her to be portrayed as naive or corrupt but the show avoids such a depiction. The author is simply complimenting the writing for this version of Misty, not implying anything about comic Misty.

Was gonna say the same thing. I think it was just misinterpreted by the reader.

 

[AlluAllu]

Just one more week! Starting to get pretty excited.

Marvel shows have been released 10 am local time. Hopefully I can clear the whole morning for this show.

 

[Faith_Cassidy]

There seems to be an implication there, either about cops or Misty.

It's about how the criminal justice system fails people who look like Misty and Luke, starting with cops who abuse their power. The fact that Misty still believes in that system, so much so that she's willing to challenge Luke's vigilantism, positions her as someone who could be portrayed as naive or corrupt. Certainly, there is a middle ground, which apparently the writers have found. I assume Misty thinks that despite its flaws, the justice system is still the best way to obtain justice. It's a reasonable POV, though I would also assume it's one that will change/evolve as the season progresses. It has to if Misty is to become the character that we all love and want to see.

 

[TheVileOne]

It's about how the criminal justice system fails people who look like Misty and Luke, starting with cops who abuse their power. The fact that Misty still believes in that system, so much so that she's willing to challenge Luke's vigilantism, positions her as someone who could be portrayed as naive or corrupt. Certainly, there is a middle ground, which apparently the writers have found. I assume Misty thinks that despite its flaws, the justice system is still the best way to obtain justice. It's a reasonable POV, though I would also assume it's one that will change/evolve as the season progresses. It has to if Misty is to become the character that we all love and want to see.

You mean how the criminal justice system is racist?

 

[Faith_Cassidy]

Ha. Yes, institutional racism is very real.

 

[TheVileOne]

Ha. Yes, institutional racism is very real.

Like with Hollywood.

 

[MbJ]

It's about how the criminal justice system fails people who look like Misty and Luke, starting with cops who abuse their power. The fact that Misty still believes in that system, so much so that she's willing to challenge Luke's vigilantism, positions her as someone who could be portrayed as naive or corrupt. Certainly, there is a middle ground, which apparently the writers have found. I assume Misty thinks that despite its flaws, the justice system is still the best way to obtain justice. It's a reasonable POV, though I would also assume it's one that will change/evolve as the season progresses. It has to if Misty is to become the character that we all love and want to see.

Exactly. Misty is serving a system that has a history of screwing over people who look like her, but the point is she's an idealist and believes the system can still be good despite the fact that more than ever, many people are losing faith in it.

It's a comedy but the recent season of Brooklyn Nine Nine (also a show about New York cops) have had to address this.

 

[BarryAllen]

http://marvel.com/news/tv/26763/marvels_luke_cage_live_concert_announced

Luke Cage live concert announced

ArtDontSleep presents an unforgettable evening of music at The Theatre at Ace Hotel, curated by Ali Shaheed Muhammad and Adrian Younge, showing the diverse range of original score created for the Netflix original series, "Marvel’s Luke Cage." Influences ranging from David Axelrod, Ennio Morricone, to A Tribe Called Quest and Wu Tang Clan will be brought to life by a 40-piece orchestra.

 

[TheVileOne]

Exactly. Misty is serving a system that has a history of screwing over people who look like her, but the point is she's an idealist and believes the system can still be good despite the fact that more than ever, many people are losing faith in it.

It's a comedy but the recent season of Brooklyn Nine Nine (also a show about New York cops) have had to address this.

Brooklyn Nine Nine is a comedy that takes place in a fictional world. In the real world, pretty much that whole division should be fired because they are bad cops and bad at their jobs. At least Hitchcock and Scully.

 

[MbJ]

Uhm? Okay? Yes, we're all aware it's a comedy. The sentence kinda began with "it's a comedy."

 

[Slick]

http://marvel.com/news/tv/26763/marvels_luke_cage_live_concert_announced

Luke Cage live concert announced

Nice.

 

[AlluAllu]

Ask and ye shall receive. Official. Exclusive. And Spoiler-free.

My official review of Marvel's Luke Cage.

I've been rewatching Jessica Jones one episode a day and I have found that I enjoy that show lot more that way compared to binging during a weekend.

Would you recommend binging Luke Cage or more restrained viewing?

 

[Darkraid]

Brooklyn Nine Nine is a comedy that takes place in a fictional world. In the real world, pretty much that whole division should be fired because they are bad cops and bad at their jobs. At least Hitchcock and Scully.

Probably Boyle too.

 

[chamber-music]

Can't wait for some more Carl Lucas

 

[Kaleb]

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[Slick]

Cool trailer. I was wondering if we were going to get a new trailer. That last bit with Method Man had me rolling.

 

[Web-Head]

Tried to avoid the trailer, but I couldn't. Really hyped for this show.

 

[BarryAllen]

Looks dope as hell!!! Literally cannot wait.

Stan Lee cameo: