"Make America Great Again"the F'dup Chapters in American History (The Trump Years) - Part 5

[Schlosser85]

Bush and Cheney are war criminals. Waging aggressive war, attacking sovereign nations without provocation, was ruled a war crime at Nuremberg, which was meant to set a precedent for the future, not just apply to the Nazis.

 

[Sithborg]

So, just how unimportant is Spicy going to paint Flynn as tomorrow? Limited influence? Didn't have chance to do anything? Random guy off the street? Flynn who?

 

[samsnee]

So, just how unimportant is Spicy going to paint Flynn as tomorrow? Limited influence? Didn't have chance to do anything? Random guy off the street? Flynn who?

He'll say Flynn is doing the honorable thing by getting his version of the story out there as to avoid a political witch hunt. I can see Flynn lying under oath. It's second nature to people in this administration.

 

[Marvolo]

Bush and Cheney are war criminals. Waging aggressive war, attacking sovereign nations without provocation, was ruled a war crime at Nuremberg, which was meant to set a precedent for the future, not just apply to the Nazis.

Yeah but what Bush did was done in a foreign country that many americans would be fine with erasing from the earth. Yeah americans care about the Iraq war in regards to the americans that were killed for that war and in regards to the financial cost of that war but I dont think the average American really gives a **** about war crimes committed in a foreign country against muslims. Not enough to demand Bush be charged with war crimes.

Trump on the other hand may have worked with a foreign government and robbed millions of americans of a legal election. We have a dangerous unstable possible criminal currently in the WH in control of our nukes. A possible criminal that is possibly in the pocket of a dangerous tyrant. That sort of thing is an assault directly on americans and on our country and its government and on our rights. So I dont think this Trump thing will be handled the way Bush's war crimes were handled.

 

[fancyarcher]

Looks like the FBI is working extra hard these days.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-office-of-saipan-casino-run-by-trump-protege

Agents from the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation visited an office belonging to the operator of a casino on the remote U.S. island of Saipan that has attracted attention for its huge revenues, according to a local legislator and residents.

FBI personnel, accompanied by uniformed police officers, arrived Thursday morning at a local office used by Imperial Pacific International Holdings Ltd., the Hong Kong-based company that owns the Best Sunshine Live casino, local residents said. They stayed for several hours, with local police blocking access to the building.
Saipan, an island of 50,000 residents closer to China than to Hawaii, relaxed rules on casinos in 2014 and soon awarded Imperial Pacific exclusive rights to open casinos there. The casino, run by an executive who cut his teeth in Atlantic City casinos then owned by Donald Trump, enlisted a slate of luminary overseers including former leaders of both the Republican and Democratic national parties in the U.S.

Its board members include James Woolsey, who ran the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency in the early 1990s and was among national-security advisers to Trump’s presidential campaign. Former FBI director Louis Freeh and Ed Rendell, a former Pennsylvania governor and Democratic National Committee chairman, sit on an advisory committee, as does Haley Barbour, the ex-Mississippi governor and Republican National Committee chairman who’s now a prominent lobbyist.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Crossing my fingers that Flynn actually has something to break the dam", so to speak.

It feels so horrible WANTING someone to come out with devastating information like this, but at the same time something has to put a stop to all this. It's insane the point that we've gotten to politically...

 

[Lighthouse]

Ok liberals, can we please cut it with the Pence dinner news stories? I get it, it's backwards and weird, but super low on the problems I already have with the dude. His polices should be enough to show what an ass he is. I don't give a crap if he won't have dinner with other women.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Ok liberals, can we please cut it with the Pence dinner news stories? I get it, it's backwards and weird, but super low on the problems I already have with the dude. His polices should be enough to show what an ass he is. I don't give a crap if he won't have dinner with other women.

I've never even heard this story. Now I want to know what the hubub is about?

 

[Marvolo]

Ok liberals, can we please cut it with the Pence dinner news stories? I get it, it's backwards and weird, but super low on the problems I already have with the dude. His polices should be enough to show what an ass he is. I don't give a crap if he won't have dinner with other women.

What are you talking about?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

What are you talking about?

That's what I want to know? Too lazy to Google it. If it's supposedly a story in the media this is the first I've heard of it.

 

[Sawyer]

Ok liberals, can we please cut it with the Pence dinner news stories? I get it, it's backwards and weird, but super low on the problems I already have with the dude. His polices should be enough to show what an ass he is. I don't give a crap if he won't have dinner with other women.

Could we dispel the notion that we can't focus on more than one thing at any given moment?

What are you talking about?

That's what I want to know? Too lazy to Google it. If it's supposedly a story in the media this is the first I've heard of it.

He won't have dinner alone with any woman who isn't his wife and won't attend any events where alcohol is served unless his wife is at his side.

 

[Marvolo]

Hmmm. That makes me think:

A. He has cheated on his wife before and is on a short leash.

B. His wife gets wild with booze and he keeps her on a tight leash.

C. His wife is stupid jealous.

D. He is stupid jealous.

E. He or she is just stupid.

F. All of the above.

 

[Sithborg]

G: Follows a really regressive form of Christianity.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Ah... Bet it's a Born Again thing.

 

[Sithborg]

Pence is someone who strikes me as someone who would align with the Duggar's views....

 

[SV Fan]

Ok liberals, can we please cut it with the Pence dinner news stories? I get it, it's backwards and weird, but super low on the problems I already have with the dude. His polices should be enough to show what an ass he is. I don't give a crap if he won't have dinner with other women.

How about this one?

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/...isakson-planned-parenthood-vote-senate-236702

Pence breaks tie in Senate vote targeting Planned Parenthood funding

With a rare tie-breaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence, the Senate on Thursday sent a bill to President Donald Trump’s desk giving states permission to withhold federal family planning funds from Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers.

Pence and Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson, who is recovering from back surgery and used a walker inside the chamber, were dramatically summoned to the Capitol to help pass the measure by a razor-thin margin.

All of the chamber's Democrats opposed the legislation, as did Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, who have long opposed blocking funding for the family planning organization. The GOP holds a 52-48 majority in the Senate.

“We’re talking about federal family planning funds and I don’t think that those funds should be subjected to state restrictions,” Collins told POLITICO. “It’s important to recognize that there is already a bar against using federal funds for abortion and that bar stays in effect. That’s a prohibition that I personally support, but I’m a strong supporter of family planning funds.”

You think the last time Pence defunded Planned Parenthood in Indiana and a clinic in a rural area shut down leading to an HIV outbreak in the area would have taught him a lesson

 

[samsnee]

That's what I want to know? Too lazy to Google it. If it's supposedly a story in the media this is the first I've heard of it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...no-name:homepage/story&utm_term=.8fc88986a797

He's horrible in a lot of ways but I'm not going to knock a guy down for loving his wife.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Bush and Cheney are war criminals. Waging aggressive war, attacking sovereign nations without provocation, was ruled a war crime at Nuremberg, which was meant to set a precedent for the future, not just apply to the Nazis.

But they had good info they had WMDs....

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

But they had good info they had WMDs....

Thanks for reminding me... This current vogue of in certain corners to wave the "Intelligence Got It Wrong" flag when they not only were the types to dismiss the evidence to the contrary about WMD's (along with the politicized nature of the way intel was used back then) but they also have been sticking to their guns about the WMD's in Iraq for over a decade... Until Trump and now they want to pretend that they have suspicions about the intelligence community.

 

[Orba]

So, Trump is attacking the Freedom Caucus again. I'm assuming his efforts to retry at healthcare are going as good as the first time.

One thing to remember is the Freedom Caucus is Koch back while Trump is Mercer backed, and the Mercers don't like the Koch's involvement in politics (its why the Mercers have gotten so involved in politics).

 

[Charlatan]

this whole "Flynn wants immunity" thing is a ruse.
What's going to happen is someone will probably give him immunity, then his testimony will only incriminate himself and he will walk.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

This could easily be just another clumsily orchestrated distraction. Hopefully he Dems and the Never Trumpers in the Senate aren't complete idiots. This isn't the "movies" (except maybe in Michael Flynn's head)

 

[Marvolo]

This could easily be just another clumsily orchestrated distraction. Hopefully he Dems and the Never Trumpers in the Senate aren't complete idiots. This isn't the "movies" (except maybe in Michael Flynn's head)

Yeah because politicians and people in government only commit crimes in movies.

 

[Boom]

this whole "Flynn wants immunity" thing is a ruse.
What's going to happen is someone will probably give him immunity, then his testimony will only incriminate himself and he will walk.

I don't think it works that way. By that logic, any criminal suspect could ask for "immunity" in exchange for information, rat themselves out, then get off.

Immunity only works if he has something substantial to trade, presumably something that would help investigators land a bigger fish.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, you actually have to produce to complete the immunity agreement. Let's see if someone accepts the deal.

And there is no way this is a distraction. This is really, really bad for Trump. I look forward to new polls after this.