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I'm still pretty excited to see this friday. Looks like a fun time. Not mindblowing, but worth seeing in a theater.
 
Apparently the key theme of negativity here is "style over substance" which is something I hear usually in a Zack Snyder film
 
They can't all be gems. It is a very fine line to make something that's smart AND looks good. And that applies to more than just movies....:o
 
The funny thing about that "style over substance" complaint is that the same could be said about so many movies that got critical praise. And deservedly so; sometimes style really makes a movie work. I feel like a lot of critics don't apply the same scrutiny to certain movies.
 
The substance of a film doesn't just come in the dialogue. That's why its a film and not a f***ing radio show.

Visuals and style can communicate substance too.
 
Rowsdower! said:
I'm honestly not sure Ritchie has that in him anymore. RockNRolla was his attempt to return to that genre and feel, but (IMO) it felt like a cover band performance of Snatch or Lock Stock. Aside from standout performances from Mark Strong and Toby Kebbell, the movie paled in comparison to Ritchie's previous London crime films. Even the awesome Tom Wilkinson was wasted, coming off like a poor man's Brick Top.
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I don't think Ritchie would ever top Snatch with his London gangster films. The London Gangster geezer subgenre thing was done to death. It became a bit of a parody and the city has changed so much since Lock Stock that those movies probably wouldn't work now.

RockNRolla was partly about how London was changing and guys like Brick Top no longer exist in contemporary London.
 
Eh I'm still going to see it. I never expected it to be deep or anything, and I know what to expect, so I'll probably be satisfied.
 
Its definitely style over substance but mileage will vary. If you liked what you saw in the trailer, then you'll more than likely enjoy(to some extent) watching it.
 
I wonder what impact it coming almost directly on the heels of a very well received spy-genre film in Rogue Nation will be?
 
There will probably be some. Unfortunately, today's critics can't seem to judge a film by its own merits if a film from a similar genre came out first. And what's funny is that M:I Rogue Nation (and all of the M:I films) are a case of style over substance. This has been done to varying degrees, with the worst offender being M:I 2 (all style and ZERO substance) but those films have mostly worked well due to the amazing stunts and Cruise's charismatic performance (and in the last one, strong supporting performances by Pegg and Ferguson). But the films as a whole aren't exactly mindblowing in terms of story or dialogue, and some featured paper-thin villains (Crudup's turncoat *****ebag in M:I 3 and the villain in M:I GP). I still love the series (apart from 2, which flat-out sucked) but it's always been about fun leads and amazing stunts more than plot. I mean, let's be real here... the last M:I film found a way for the IMF to be dissolved AGAIN. This has happened in different ways now in three of five films just so we can have Cruise on the run from BOTH the good guys and the bad guys. It worked, but if they try this again in the next one, I think people are really going to find it stale.
 
I mean Im still going to see it. A movie has to getting really really bad reviews for me to not still see it in theaters if Im looking forward to it qnd even then I'll probably still go if it's something IM really anticipating. The new Vacation movie got horrible reviews, but I still saw it in theaters and really liked it. And on the other hand Prometheus and Juno are two movies that got good reviews that I saw in theaters that I disliked.

And also UNCLE is at 68%. Not a bad score are all. It's just not glowing.

I think it's also worth noting that Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes got a 70% and an average 6.2/10. UNCLE right now is at 68% with an average of 6.4/10
 
Blackman said:
I mean Im still going to see it. A movie has to getting really really bad reviews for me to not still see it in theaters if Im looking forward to it qnd even then I'll probably still go if it's something IM really anticipating. The new Vacation movie got horrible reviews, but I still saw it in theaters and really liked it. And on the other hand Prometheus and Juno are two movies that got good reviews that I saw in theaters that I disliked.

And also UNCLE is at 68%. Not a bad score are all. It's just not glowing.

I think it's also worth noting that Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes got a 70% and an average 6.2/10. UNCLE right now is at 68% with an average of 6.4/10
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Yeah, anything above 60% is good as far as I'm concerned. I've seen some movies with percentages in the 90s that didn't do much for me, and conversely, I've seen films in the 45-55% range that were actually really good. If a film is below 40%, then I'll usually wait for it until Redbox. But if it's something north of that, and it's a film I've been eagerly anticipating, I'll give it a shot in the theater.
 
LOL, that's kind of amazing. I had never heard of the Lazenbond cameo in that UNCLE movie before.
 
Yeah, saw that. Might do okay internationally though. That stuff is unpredictable. $75 million isn't a lot for a movie these days, though it's not cheap. Just by looking at it, you wonder where all the money goes. I'm not saying the film looks cheap (it doesn't) but it doesn't seem like it's heavy on special effects, and I doubt any of the actors involved had massive salaries.
 
Rowsdower! said:
Yeah, saw that. Might do okay internationally though. That stuff is unpredictable. $75 million isn't a lot for a movie these days, though it's not cheap. Just by looking at it, you wonder where all the money goes. I'm not saying the film looks cheap (it doesn't) but it doesn't seem like it's heavy on special effects, and I doubt any of the actors involved had massive salaries.
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I think internationally it will do well for some reason. I don't know just a feeling.

Im sure a lot of the budget went toward recreating the 60s and other period piece things.

But youre right about some movie budgets being ridiculous like How Do You Know and It's Complicated . Both cost more than UNCLE and neither feature action scenes of any kind. Even with cast salaries that's ridiculous
 
Blackman said:
I think internationally it will do well for some reason. I don't know just a feeling.

Im sure a lot of the budget went toward recreating the 60s and other period piece things.

But youre right about some movie budgets being ridiculous like How Do You Know and It's Complicated . Both cost more than UNCLE and neither feature action scenes of any kind. Even with cast salaries that's ridiculous
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HOLY... How Do You Know cost $120 million??!!!!

I guess that was due to the actors salaries? Ugh. I saw most of that movie a few years ago. It was terrible. Whoever though Reese Witherspoon could convincingly play a professional softball player is an idiot. That movie bombed HARD and it deserved to.
 
Rowsdower! said:
There will probably be some. Unfortunately, today's critics can't seem to judge a film by its own merits if a film from a similar genre came out first. And what's funny is that M:I Rogue Nation (and all of the M:I films) are a case of style over substance. This has been done to varying degrees, with the worst offender being M:I 2 (all style and ZERO substance) but those films have mostly worked well due to the amazing stunts and Cruise's charismatic performance (and in the last one, strong supporting performances by Pegg and Ferguson). But the films as a whole aren't exactly mindblowing in terms of story or dialogue, and some featured paper-thin villains (Crudup's turncoat *****ebag in M:I 3 and the villain in M:I GP). I still love the series (apart from 2, which flat-out sucked) but it's always been about fun leads and amazing stunts more than plot. I mean, let's be real here... the last M:I film found a way for the IMF to be dissolved AGAIN. This has happened in different ways now in three of five films just so we can have Cruise on the run from BOTH the good guys and the bad guys. It worked, but if they try this again in the next one, I think people are really going to find it stale.
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IMO the latest M:I was basically a paper-thin plot stung together by a series of action set-pieces, but I still liked it.
 
Vanity Fair liked it quite a bit:

At first glance, Man from U.N.C.L.E. would seem to suffer from a dearth of star power. Cavill may be Superman, but he hasn’t done much else. His U.N.C.L.E. co-star, Armie Hammer, had good chemistry with himself in The Social Network (he played twins Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss), but he was poorly served in later films like J. Edgar and The Lone Ranger and his star moment seemed to pass. So the two of them leading a ring-a-ding summer spy romp initially seems like a strange premise. And yet it works, better, even, than it might have with Clooney, or Cruise, or any of the myriad other big names once loosely attached to the movie. Cavill and Hammer both act like they have something to prove—rather than coasting on pre-packaged charm, they (Cavill especially) really go for it, creating something both slick and silly in the process. They’re fun to watch, because they’re game and committed, and because, with their lowered Q scores, they can slip right into the context of the movie. We’re not watching George Clooney running around doing stuff, we’re watching Napoleon Solo.
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http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/08/the-man-from-uncle-review
 
That is a good review. I'm glad at least some critics are praising the performances. From what I've seen in the previews, they all look like they're doing a great job, Cavill, Hammer and Vikander especially.
 
the film is so close to a 70% in RT, just a little more lovin...
 
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