The Amazing Spider-Man Marc Webb to return?

[I Am The Knight]

I'm talking about the Bat comics, my lad.

 

[chaseter]

I haven't read Bat comics so I have no idea.

 

[LegendAssemble]

Congratulations, you're slowing starting to understand what a trilogy is. Not everything is resolved in the first film. And Marc Webb doesn't need to return (although I hope that he does), remember, Harry Potter has multiple directors on his films. All of them using the same sequel baiting methods and working on one connected story--no waste and satisfying to most. I don't know why this is so hard for you to comprehend.

You have no idea what a trillogy is either. You have to be one of the most pretentious people I've seen on these boards. What you don't seem to understand is they close all the gaps in the story and leave it at a point where it could end and be satisfying.

The Joker card was introduced in the last 10 seconds of the film, it had no effect on the picture as a whole. Harry swearing revenge did nothing, it was his last line and it was just supposed to go along with the theme "the ones I love will always be the ones who pay". Harry finding the goblin room in Spider-Man 2, they could have left it there, it was the end of his arc. He refused to kill Peter and now he knows who his father really was, again at the end. X-Men 2, the whole movie hints to the Phoenix saga but at the end she sacrifices herself, and the end only tells us she is still alive. Pyro goes with Magneto, but it is the end of his arc.

Your misconception of a "Trilogy" is that they tell one big story and you need to watch them all together. What they do is give you satisfying complete stories, that then leave the audience wondering what happens next. This is how leave the door open for a sequel AT THE END. Amazing didn't do this, it's time you realized you don't know what you're talking about and think. Dr.Raffa, he dropped out of the movie in the middle...wtf? Peter's parents, their importance ended after the Lizard showed up. The scene at the end in Connors cell is fine because its at the end. You can have something like that be left unresolved, but ideas we are introduced to in the beginning need to be wrapped up in the film.

If you want an example of how to make a good movie that leads into a sequel, look to Empire Strikes Back. Everything there is wrapped up, despite the characters fates being in question. They all grow and learn something from the experience. Peter grows a little but that scene they cut out, significantly damaged the movie as a whole.

 

[LegendAssemble]

The Webbster said the parents thing would span the whole trilogy, so I never had much of a problem with it.

Uncle Ben's killer not getting caught might be an effort to "Joe Chill" the character a bit.

As for Ratha...Well, we know his big scene was cut, and we know whyyyyy....

It's fine to carry the story through the trilogy but even that line "Do you really think this was an accident Peter?" from the trailers would have been satisfying. At least you have a sense that the story from the beginning is continuing and you know that there is still more to learn about it. It also would have tied up Raffa's character. That scene was SO crucial imo.

But the Joe Chill thing is what I was thinking too. I was thinking maybe Peter might even catch him after he's watched Goblin die and decide to spare him, because he remembers how alone Goblin dying made him feel (loved that line in the comics).

Anyway, at least you seem to know what you're talking about

 

[I Am The Knight]

It's fine to carry the story through the trilogy but even that line "Do you really think this was an accident Peter?" from the trailers would have been satisfying. At least you have a sense that the story from the beginning is continuing and you know that there is still more to learn about it. It also would have tied up Raffa's character. That scene was SO crucial imo.

But the Joe Chill thing is what I was thinking too. I was thinking maybe Peter might even catch him after he's watched Goblin die and decide to spare him, because he remembers how alone Goblin dying made him feel (loved that line in the comics).

Anyway, at least you seem to know what you're talking about

The problem with that line is that it's presumably uttered in the sewer scene where it's revealed that Peter got Ang Lee'd. It must have been wisely cut to avoid that origin, and there was no way of adding that line in any other part of the film, really. They had a version of the story and a couple of months before release they decided on another. It makes the story a little choppy here and there, but I think we dodged a bullet...

 

[Picard Sisko]

Once again, the sequel to TASM will make or break the franchise. TASM is not a bad film, its a great setup movie. But on its own its just not very satisfying.

 

[pickleweed]

side note -

i know we give (or at least i know i do) imageworks a lot of grief, but ive got to give it up to them. i know they busted their asses, and a lot of guys gave up a good chunk of nights and weekends to get this thing done. and while not everything came out photo-real, this will give you a glimpse at the sheer amount of work involved in these scenes regardless. and for that.....MUCH respect.

thats a ton of work guys.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKuIb1bFoEQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq0CGhinCPI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TckDqmnpmlI&feature=relmfu

 

[Picard Sisko]

I will admit the CGI was amazing in the movie.

What I don't understand is that Marc Webb said that they spend weeks (if not months) in the lab just working on the first person perspective shot featured in the teaser trailer. It was incomplete at the time, and looked like a video game. In the movie itself, it was cut up and pretty much ruined. What excited me about the film in the teaser was that whole first person perspective, and I thought it would have been a really exciting add to this new series.

Also, that shot looked really good in the final cut. Why didn't they use the whole thing?

 

[pickleweed]

I will admit the CGI was amazing in the movie.

What I don't understand is that Marc Webb said that they spend weeks (if not months) in the lab just working on the first person perspective shot featured in the teaser trailer. It was incomplete at the time, and looked like a video game. In the movie itself, it was cut up and pretty much ruined. What excited me about the film in the teaser was that whole first person perspective, and I thought it would have been a really exciting add to this new series.

Also, that shot looked really good in the final cut. Why didn't they use the whole thing?

i dont remember him commenting on it, but i will say this -

maybe it looked so good BECAUSE it was cut quickly as opposed to a longer cut. id imagine the biggest issues with shots like that are primarily that the ENTIRETY of it needs to be rebuilt in a photoreal capacity, including developing the camera move. if youve ever seen first person parkour/extreme sports vids, the first thing you notice is that perspective can get out of control. motion blur to the point where oyu cant see anything. so thats the first thing to get dialed back. and that in and of itself can lead to a sense of falseness. the other part is that you dont want youre audience feel like theyre gonna yak at the end of it. so your in essence, fighting the reality of it while trying to make it feel real. and id imagine alot of the r and d time for that shot was regarding the 3D effect in the cinema. maybe they realized it wasnt working as intended.

maybe they cut it so they could focus resources on select chunks that they were able to take to the finish line. despite what we tend to believe, fx houses have finite resources that need to be distributed efficiently. and sometimes its better to have one or two really good shots than it is to have one half realized one.

and finally, maybe they cut it for pacing purposes. as we've seen with this movie, some of the editing was done in hour 11, so who knows. maybe it was collateral damage.

 

[grieven]

side note -

i know we give (or at least i know i do) imageworks a lot of grief, but ive got to give it up to them. i know they busted their asses, and a lot of guys gave up a good chunk of nights and weekends to get this thing done. and while not everything came out photo-real, this will give you a glimpse at the sheer amount of work involved in these scenes regardless. and for that.....MUCH respect.

thats a ton of work guys.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKuIb1bFoEQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq0CGhinCPI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TckDqmnpmlI&feature=relmfu

Some truly beautiful work. My hat is off to Imageworks for their great work on TAS.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Agreed. Spidey fighting the Lizard is amazing looking stuff.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

side note -

i know we give (or at least i know i do) imageworks a lot of grief, but ive got to give it up to them. i know they busted their asses, and a lot of guys gave up a good chunk of nights and weekends to get this thing done. and while not everything came out photo-real, this will give you a glimpse at the sheer amount of work involved in these scenes regardless. and for that.....MUCH respect.

thats a ton of work guys.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKuIb1bFoEQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq0CGhinCPI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TckDqmnpmlI&feature=relmfu

The CGI work was fantastic and they did a better job than I had anticipated. Thanks for posting these! t:

 

[Arachnid]

Just a question...could this be in Oscar contention for special effects?

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Things this movie dropped 60 minutes in;

- Irrfran Khan
- Uncle Ben's killer
- parent's deaths

Sequel bait he says!

If only Nolan had done that in BB. Crane goes away halfway into the movie, Joe Chill escapes court and they never mention him again, and Bruce suddenly stops caring about his parent's murders because he discovers the villain's plot.

Khan was a villain?? I thought he was just a lackey/liasion for Norman Osborn. Either way, those 'extra' scenes that he was involved in were cut for a reason and it may have changed the origin story for Pete. If that's the case, I am glad they were cut.

I agree that I wish there could have been more resolution for Uncle Ben's killer however it wasn't just dropped. Peter came to understand that he needed to start using his powers for good and not for his own reasons. Besides, the end of the movie hinted at that part of the story continuing and I don't have an issue with that. There's nothing wrong with leaving that bit unresolved and should make for some very interesting scenes in the next movie.

We already knew that the parent's death was going to be continued over the entire trilogy.

Tell me Chaseter, you say this movie is just 'mediocre' however I have yet to see you post anything positive about the movie. Even if you gave the movie a 5 out of 10, you'd think there would still be some positive elements that you might bring up. You're always bashing the movie and concentrating on the negative aspects, or rather what you perceive to be negative aspects...as an onlooker I'd think you were giving the movie a 1 out of 10 and calling it 'utter crap' and not 'mediocre.' Is there anything you liked about ASM?

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Just a question...could this be in Oscar contention for special effects?

Sure. It just depends on whether or not the studio pushes for a nomination.

 

[pickleweed]

Sure. It just depends on whether or not the studio pushes for a nomination.

id imagine thats what these breakdowns were intended for. just a hunch

 

[UltimateWebhead]

id imagine thats what these breakdowns were intended for. just a hunch

Well that would be cool. I think the movie deserves at least a nom. But I was thinking that those shot builds were made to be included with the DVD extras. I like your hunch though, so I'm gonna go with that t:

 

[pickleweed]

Well that would be cool. I think the movie deserves at least a nom. But I was thinking that those shot builds were made to be included with the DVD extras. I like your hunch though, so I'm gonna go with that t:

re-purposing is always good

but the title card and the way its presented of is leaning me towards it being a submission demo.

what would it be up against this year? avengers......what else came out this year cant remember

 

[UltimateWebhead]

re-purposing is always good

but the title card and the way its presented of is leaning me towards it being a submission demo.

what would it be up against this year? avengers......what else came out this year cant remember

Hmmm...let's see...

ASM
Snow White and the Huntsman
Underworld: Awakening
Ghost Rider II
Prometheus
Avengers
The Hobbit (not released yet)
Twilight (not sure if this would be included in special effects...I guess it could)
Battleship
Wrath of the Titans
Total Recall

Those are the ones I can think of. The Hobbit will be tough to beat, I'd imagine.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Congratulations, you're slowing starting to understand what a trilogy is. Not everything is resolved in the first film. And Marc Webb doesn't need to return (although I hope that he does), remember, Harry Potter has multiple directors on his films. All of them using the same sequel baiting methods and working on one connected story--no waste and satisfying to most. I don't know why this is so hard for you to comprehend.

Congratulations, you still don't understand that one shouldn't leave so many storylines open when there is never going to be a 100% confirmation of a sequel being made

That's the biggest different than any trilogy we have scene; none of them keep so many things untouched as TAS-M has.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Things this movie dropped 60 minutes in;

- Irrfran Khan
- Uncle Ben's killer
- parent's deaths

Sequel bait he says!

If only Nolan had done that in BB. Crane goes away halfway into the movie, Joe Chill escapes court and they never mention him again, and Bruce suddenly stops caring about his parent's murders because he discovers the villain's plot.

There we go. Someone finally understands my point.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

We ought to know soon right? I imagine filming will start early 2013 for a 2014 release.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Congratulations, you still don't understand that one shouldn't leave so many storylines open when there is never going to be a 100% confirmation of a sequel being made

That's the biggest different than any trilogy we have scene; none of them keep so many things untouched as TAS-M has.

There is one movie that I can think of that does, The Golden Compass. How did that work out?

 

[I Am The Knight]

We ought to know soon right? I imagine filming will start early 2013 for a 2014 release.

They need to settle on a director...

 

[Anno_Domini]

There is one movie that I can think of that does, The Golden Compass. How did that work out?

I couldn't tell you since I never saw it.