TheCorpulent1
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Farkin' sweet. I hate Marvel for messing with my head so much.
Fantasy TV is now The Lord of the Rings!
Heroes are moving to the Movies sections!
- What is SPIDER-MAN: WITH GREAT POWER supposed to be? Marvel's done a slew of "past stories" to fill in gaps between AF #15 and early ASM issues, once with a AF series in the 90's and then UNTOLD TALES OF SPIDER-MAN. They never sold. Granted, I always meant to get into Untold Tales, I heard it was good.
Untold Tales of Spider-Man was arguably THE best Spider-Man book of the 90's...
Busiek had such respect to what was done during the Lee/Ditko books, that he would squeeze stories between issues ,and sometimes between panels of any of the original ASM comics without compromising them, and it all fit very nicely.
Busiek's Amazing Fantasy #16, 17 & 18, which filled the gap between AF #15 and ASM #1 was another gem of a tale, but from what I gather, this particular story takes place while Peter is riding his stardom dafter he gets his powers, so I guess you could say it takes place within the pages of AF 15.
It's sad that Busiek's slumming over on Superman these days. Come back to the Marvel universe, Kurt. You know you miss it.
He's not selling especially well at DC either, judging from the sales/reception of his Superman run.But Busiek respects history and characters. He wouldn't sell right now at Marvel.
I wish Busiek and Bendis could have a cage match to determine who would get to write the Avengers. Oh, and Busiek would get a rocket launcher while Bendis would get an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
Yeah, I wanted to get into UNTOLD, but they only made an out-of-print trade of the first 8 or so issues and that was it. They should release the rest like as some sort of VISIONARIES package or something.
I found Busiek's Avengers plodding with awful, stilted dialogue, so I don't mind trying to improve on that (not that I enjoyed New Avengers either; it was flawed for different reasons).
I'm surprised you can't get all 25 issues on-line or in back issue bins...
- I don't know what happened, because that Bachelo ASM cover doesn't look like complete melted clay ****. But, covers often have better art than interiors. As for Spider-Man & Wolverine teaming up again, hey, what do you want? They're Marvel's equalivent to Batman & Superman in terms of popularity. I'm amazed they don't have a buddy comic at this point.
- What is SPIDER-MAN: WITH GREAT POWER supposed to be?
Seriously, Busiek's AVENGERS style is most likely what Joe Q was thinking of when he thought, "Let's shake Avengers up a bit". Granted, his big idea was adding Spidey & Wolverine (and "New" to the title), Bendis did the rest. They have no sense of history or respect for characters over shocks & quick buck sales, and right now that is working for Marvel.
MTU started out as their buddy comic. Anyway, Bachalo's art hasn't looked like "melted clay" since Morrison's X-Men. Give in to it. You know you like it.
I'll tell you what it's going to be. It's going to be the only Spider-Man book I'm buying in a good long while. Is it a needed retelling? Hell, no. But it sounds a lot better than the Mythos stories that Jenkins craps out. Oh, and it's got beautiful Tony Harris artwork.
If it was just the addition of Wolverine and Spider-Man, it wouldn't have been so bad. It was Bendis' bad ideas and bad storytelling that killed the Avengers.
Wolverine never made sense beyond popularity. He slaughters thugs for fun sometimes, he isn't Avengers material, despite Iron Man's flimsy reasoning. Now, Spider-Man could have worked had Marvel been ready to make the next step and essentially have him become the equalivent to The Flash in terms of team placement and maybe even familiarity with some people in the city. Despite the quips, Spider-Man has more experience than half the New Avengers as assembled. They obviously weren't, and Bendis writes him like a useless man-child. Some of the tales in that GIANT SIZE AVENGERS special showed the potential that was missed with Spidey on the team. Oh well.
He hasn't killed anyone "for fun" in years, dude. He might not be Avengers material, but who is? If you look back through the various rosters you'll find that many of the Avengers who are considered classic weren't Avengers material when they initially joined. To me, that's as weak an argument as Tony's.
According to Iron Man, killing the occasional criminal is exactly what the Avengers are supposed to be doing. That's why he hired Wolverine, remember?
Yeah, but he kills criminals when the Avengers are not supposed to be doing that. He seems like the character you would want as a public hero the LEAST. I mean, then Stark turns around and criticizes Capt. America for working with the Punisher on his Secret Avengers. How is that any different? At least Steve booted Punisher when he shot some villains in front of him. Wolverine slices into ninjas and no one cares.
The Avengers have let in some former terrorists, thieves, Commie spies and whatnot, but Logan pushes it a bit. Why not Ghost Rider, too?
Well, I could live with that given Iron Man's characterization for the last few years. It's a lot more odious that Cap allowed him to kill people without doing anything about it. Although, I guess that could've been his problems from Brubaker's opening arc seeping into New Avengers, in retrospect. He seemed to lose his respect for "bad" human life a bit.Right, Iron Man's argument sucks, too.
Well, I could live with that given Iron Man's characterization for the last few years. It's a lot more odious that Cap allowed him to kill people without doing anything about it. Although, I guess that could've been his problems from Brubaker's opening arc seeping into New Avengers, in retrospect. He seemed to lose his respect for "bad" human life a bit.