MARVEL WHAT-IF: REIMAGINING SEQUELS & FILMS THAT NEVER WERE

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IRON MAN AND THE TEN RINGS (1963)

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Iron Man/ Tony Stark : Burt Reynolds

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Pepper Potts : Tina Louise

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The Mandarin : James Shigeta

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Edwin Jarvis : Wilfrid Hyde-White

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Jim Rhodes : Sammy Davis Jr.

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Howard Stark : Cary Grant
 
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WEAPON X : THE WOLVERINE (1975)

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Wolverine/ Logan : Clint Eastwood

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Sabretooth/ Victor Creed: Martin Kove

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Stryker : Charles Durning

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Jean Grey : Katherine Ross

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Professor X : Yul Brynner

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Lady Deathstrike :Akiko Wakabayashi
 
Thanks! :)
I was thinking the same thing. That's why I picked him that year.

Can you imagine it? An Oliver Stone film, at his career's height.
And Sheen as Bucky when he was still a real actor and not a total joke.
Of course it would have been incredible.
It would have made an impact around the world. I mean, this would be the first "serious" live action superhero. It's Oliver Stone (Platoon, Born 4th of July, JFK).

Also, this was just one year before T2, which means would could have almost as much mindblowing action.

Burtonverse Bats would be put on the wall of shame.

The only thing the special effects of that time couldn't achieve, was to have the 1985 version of the actor for pre-serum Cap. Which would have made the transformation something out of this world
But damn, if it was possible. I faint of excitement thinking about it.


Well I agree, if he worked out heavy, & packed on muscle....it would go more towards making him believable as Cap.
Stallone & Arnold could have given him some 'pointers' on how to do that.
 
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IRON MAN AND THE TEN RINGS (1963)

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Iron Man/ Tony Stark : Burt Reynolds

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Pepper Potts : Tina Louise

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The Mandarin : James Shigeta

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Edwin Jarvis : Wilfrid Hyde-White

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Jim Rhodes : Sammy Davis Jr.

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Howard Stark : Cary Grant

Good pic of Burt to show how he could have been Tony.
Got me sold on that.
Ginger as Pepper..........one spice for another (sorry bad joke I know)
 
Good pic of Burt to show how he could have been Tony.
Got me sold on that.
Ginger as Pepper..........one spice for another (sorry bad joke I know)

Lol. That's okay.
It feels weird that she's the last surviving member of Gilligan's Island. I'm old enough to remember when the whole cast was still around.
 
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Guardians of the Galaxy (1980)
Director: John Landis
Producer : Steven Spielberg


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Starlord/ Peter Quill : Dan Ackroyd

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Yondu : Mr T.

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Rocket Racoon voice : John Belushi

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Gamora : Jamie Lee Curtis

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Voice of Groot : Donald Gibb

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Drax The Destroyer : Arnold Schwarzenegger

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Gamora : Sara Douglas

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Ronan The Acussor : Jeremy Brett

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Thanos The Mad Titan : Marlon Brando
 
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Well I agree, if he worked out heavy, & packed on muscle....it would go more towards making him believable as Cap.
Stallone & Arnold could have given him some 'pointers' on how to do that.
Of course he would pack on muscles, isn't that a given? Did you think I wanted a weak Cap?

But he can't be too built. He also need to move quick, be acrobatic and agile for the role.

If you don't like my choice of actor, maybe I should change back to the choice I first had in mind: Matthew Modine
 
Frodo:

Clint Eastwood Wolverine
Dan Aykroyd Star-Lord
Marlon Brando Thanos

Those are soooo good!
I like Clint the most of these.
Now imagine him next to Reynolds' Iron Man and Redford's Cap.
It's a golden trinity of Marvel there
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Frodo:

Clint Eastwood Wolverine
Dan Aykroyd Star-Lord
Marlon Brando Thanos

Those are soooo good!
I like Clint the most of these.
Now imagine him next to Reynolds' Iron Man and Redford's Cap.
It's a golden trinity of Marvel there
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Thanks Airwings !

I think Clint would have made a great Logan. He's also my number 1 for a 70s Batman as well , so I guess in this alternate universe he did double duty as both characters !:cwink:.
 
Thanks Airwings !

I think Clint would have made a great Logan. He's also my number 1 for a 70s Batman as well , so I guess in this alternate universe he did double duty as both characters !:cwink:.
His ruggedness is perfect for Logan, even more than compared to Bats.

No, I don't think it's ONE alternate reality, but TWO. :cwink:
 
Of course he would pack on muscles, isn't that a given? Did you think I wanted a weak Cap?

But he can't be too built. He also need to move quick, be acrobatic and agile for the role.

If you don't like my choice of actor, maybe I should change back to the choice I first had in mind: Matthew Modine

I guess I ,personally, I'm not feeling him as Cap.
Its ok to disagree, its what makes the forums good.
Lively discussion.
I would cast another 80s actor before him.
 
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THE DAREDEVIL !(1966)
Director : Sidney Lumet




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Daredevil/ Matt Murdock : Jack Lord

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Kingpin/ Wilson Fisk : Victor Bueno

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Electra : Sophia Loren

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Foggy Nelson : Carol O' Connor

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Bullseye : George Segal

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The Punisher/ Frank Castle : Burt Lancaster

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Karen Page : Eva Marie Saint

 
THE DAREDEVIL !(1966)
Director : Sidney Lumet




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Daredevil/ Matt Murdock : Jack Lord

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Kingpin/ Wilson Fisk : Victor Bueno

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Electra : Sophia Loren

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Foggy Nelson : Carol O' Connor

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Bullseye : George Segal

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The Punisher/ Frank Castle : Burt Lancaster

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Karen Page : Eva Marie Saint


Jack Lord stands out here. :)
I'm surprised how you can think of all these actors. You've become really good at this.

Now I would like to ask you something I have wondered about for a while. How do you pick your cast?
Is it because of an actor's other films, what similar characters he played around the time for your alternate film in question?

When I did all of my different "dream projects", from 1940s up to today, many factors play in.
The main two are their age around the time of the film in question, and their faces ("Do they look like the comic book character I've chosen?"). The hair color can affect a bit too.

But maybe you go for the actors' voices too?
Or their public image/personality, how they behave(-d) in interviews?
 
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WALT DISNEY PRESENTS , SPIDERMAN: FAR FROM HOMECOMING !(1966)
Directed by : Mike Nichols


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Spiderman/ Peter Parker : Nicholas Hammond

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Vulture/ Adrian Toomes : Telly Savalas

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Mysterio/ Quentin Beck : Ross Martin

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Iron Man / Tony Stark : Burt Reynolds Happy Hogan :Dom Deluise

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Aunt May : Clores Leachman

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Pepper Potts : Tina Louise

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Nick Fury : Peter Graves

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Maria Hill : Ali Magraw

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Shocker : James Colburn

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MJ : Angela Cartwright

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J. Jonah Jameson : Harold Gould

 
Jack Lord stands out here. :)
I'm surprised how you can think of all these actors. You've become really good at this.

Now I would like to ask you something I have wondered about for a while. How do you pick your cast?
Is it because of an actor's other films, what similar characters he played around the time for your alternate film in question?

When I did all of my different "dream projects", from 1940s up to today, many factors play in.
The main two are their age around the time of the film in question, and their faces ("Do they look like the comic book character I've chosen?"). The hair color can affect a bit too.

But maybe you go for the actors' voices too?
Or their public image/personality, how they behave(-d) in interviews?

Thanks!
I pick my actors in a variety of ways, and sometimes its easier than other times.

I definitely try to find the actor who looks the role , though, I will sometimes go for fit even if the actor or actress isn't a dead ringer.

For instance, I picked Dustin Hoffman as Scott Lang's Antman. Even though he doesn't look like the comics version, he's like a 1970s version of what Rudd's Lang would have been back then. Same thing with Ackroyd as Starlord. While he didn't scream action hero in the late 70s , The SNL Ackroyd definitely could have played all the shades of Starlord imo.

Alot of times , I'll cast to the type of actor who previously played the role , i.e. RDJ is similar to Burt Reynold's imo.

They're from different decades, to be sure, but they both have the devil may care attitude , lady's man, and ability to due comedy aspects of their personas. At the same time, Reynold's looks like Stark anyway, so it's the best of both worlds.

It was a similar thing with Redford as Cap. He both fits the Steve Rogers , all American look of Cap, but he also played idealistic and principled characters in his youth, particularly in the 70s, and that also made him a prime pick.

I had originally had Steve Reeves and Jon Voight for Cap, but neither of them really were the full package for the role the way Redford was.

On the other hand, the fan casting can also be tough when I'm trying to search for an actor I feel really could have embodied the character. When that happens ,I have to go into my memory banks a bit and search through old tv show and film casts.

That's when some really obscure actors and actresses to today audiences come up in my lists. Alot of the posters here may not know who they are, but I feel the actors would have fit the roles well.

I repeat alot of the same actors constantly through the DC and Marvel casts lists, but alot of times, those actors could play multiple heroes or villains at multiple times over the decades.

As far as Jack Lord goes, I got lucky . I wanted to do a Daredevil film set in the 60s, and at first, I was looking at younger actors who were part of the Redford generation.

I then remembered Lord's Felix Leiter from Dr. No and I thought, "That's Matt Murdock off the 1960s page!". While he was on the older end, he still pretty much fit the role to a T around that time , so I picked him.

Overall, In tend to stick to dream casts from the 60s through 80s .

It's more interesting to me to cast for films that far back as opposed to recasting The X Men 2000 film with another cast of actors from the late 90s.

Ditto with recasting The MCU cast with actors who are contemporaries with the current actors. In other words, I'm not interested trying to cast say Scott Eastwood as Cap in 2011, instead of Chris Evans.

I'd rather go to the 90s and cast Casper Van Dien as Cap and see what that might look like. It's further back which is much more interesting to me.
 
Thanks!
I pick my actors in a variety of ways, and sometimes its easier than other times.

I definitely try to find the actor who looks the role , though, I will sometimes go for fit even if the actor or actress isn't a dead ringer.

For instance, I picked Dustin Hoffman as Scott Lang's Antman. Even though he doesn't look like the comics version, he's like a 1970s version of what Rudd's Lang would have been back then. Same thing with Ackroyd as Starlord. While he didn't scream action hero in the late 70s , The SNL Ackroyd definitely could have played all the shades of Starlord imo.

Alot of times , I'll cast to the type of actor who previously played the role , i.e. RDJ is similar to Burt Reynold's imo.

They're from different decades, to be sure, but they both have the devil may care attitude , lady's man, and ability to due comedy aspects of their personas. At the same time, Reynold's looks like Stark anyway, so it's the best of both worlds.

It was a similar thing with Redford as Cap. He both fits the Steve Rogers , all American look of Cap, but he also played idealistic and principled characters in his youth, particularly in the 70s, and that also made him a prime pick.

I had originally had Steve Reeves and Jon Voight for Cap, but neither of them really were the full package for the role the way Redford was.

On the other hand, the fan casting can also be tough when I'm trying to search for an actor I feel really could have embodied the character. When that happens ,I have to go into my memory banks a bit and search through old tv show and film casts.

That's when some really obscure actors and actresses to today audiences come up in my lists. Alot of the posters here may not know who they are, but I feel the actors would have fit the roles well.

I repeat alot of the same actors constantly through the DC and Marvel casts lists, but alot of times, those actors could play multiple heroes or villains at multiple times over the decades.

As far as Jack Lord goes, I got lucky . I wanted to do a Daredevil film set in the 60s, and at first, I was looking at younger actors who were part of the Redford generation.

I then remembered Lord's Felix Leiter from Dr. No and I thought, "That's Matt Murdock off the 1960s page!". While he was on the older end, he still pretty much fit the role to a T around that time , so I picked him.

Overall, In tend to stick to dream casts from the 60s through 80s .

It's more interesting to me to cast for films that far back as opposed to recasting The X Men 2000 film with another cast of actors from the late 90s.

Ditto with recasting The MCU cast with actors who are contemporaries with the current actors. In other words, I'm not interested trying to cast say Scott Eastwood as Cap in 2011, instead of Chris Evans.

I'd rather go to the 90s and cast Casper Van Dien as Cap and see what that might look like. It's further back which is much more interesting to me.
What a great reply! So many good points. Points that makes sense.
Are you close to a genious?

I hope all my alternate films have a cast that can match your way of thinking.
There have been too many to count.
And you have done ten times the number. Gold star to you!

But there's one thing. Our different fan casts can have a few actors that end up not suiting their character. It's a difference between dreaming about a film cast that we imagine will be awesome, and the actual thing (if the film actually happened).
It's not always the actor's fault. The direction of the film can also work against his or her typical style.
Or maybe the actor won't suit the character, in any version.
Don't worry! Most of our actors will work fine!! :) :)

EDIT Just saw your 60s Spidey with Hammond as a boy. Haha :up:
 
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BLADE AND THE TOMB OF DRACULA! A Hammer Film Production (1975)
Original Motion Picture Soundtrack by Curtis Mayfield on Capital Records


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Blade: Richard Roundtree


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Count Dracula : Christopher Lee


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Deacon Frost : Christopher Walken

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Michael Morbius : Alain Delon

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Whistler : Kirk Douglas
 
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THE MIGHTY THOR!(1964)

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Thor/ Donald Blake : Robert Shaw

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Loki : Roddy McDowell

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Jane Foster : Yvonne Craig

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Lady Sif : Martine Beswick

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Odin : Orson Wells

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Hela : Vanessa Redgrave

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Professor Erik selvig : Rex Harrison



 
Fandrall - Peter O’Toole
Volstagg - Oliver Reed
Hogun- Richard Harris
 
Fandrall - Peter O’Toole
Volstagg - Oliver Reed
Hogun- Richard Harris

Thanks Eddie Dean, good suggestions. :yay:. I had trouble filling out alot of the other supporting cast.
Here we go then:

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Fandrall- Peter O'Toole

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Voltstagg : Oliver Reed

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Hogun : Richard Harris
 
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THE MIGHTY THOR!(1964)

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Thor/ Donald Blake : Robert Shaw

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Loki : Roddy McDowell

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Jane Foster : Yvonne Craig

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Lady Sif : Martine Beswick

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Odin : Orson Wells

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Hela : Vanessa Redgrave

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Professor Erik selvig : Rex Harrison



I don't mind Robert Shaw.
But Thor is a tough movie to cast, especially for the years you picked.
Might be the only casting you made that wasn't a slam dunk.
 
Frodo, it seems you have been focusing on Marvel castings. (if you did DC I didn't see)
I would love to see who you would come up with for DC.
Batman
Superman
Aquaman
Wonder Woman
Justice league to name a few
 
Thor (1958)

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The Mighty Thor - Kirk Douglas

Loki - Tony Curtis

Odin - Ernest Borgnine

Jane Foster - Janet Leigh
 

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