Homecoming Marvel's Spider-Man Costume!? - Part 7

[harryoscop]

Huh?

That a suit without a faceshell would look better

 

[theinfernoman]

That a suit without a faceshell would look better

I'm pretty sure it has a faceshell...

 

[PeterBenParker]

I think (I think) I read somewhere they wanted his lips/jaw to move when he talks.
You almost couldn't tell he was talking in some of the earlier Spidey films.
I could be wrong though, but I believe I read it somewhere.

It was blatantly apparent in the Raimi films where he'd talk but his mask wouldn't move, hence why so many of his talking bits under the mask were voiceover.

 

[PeterBenParker]

I'm pretty sure it has a faceshell...

Yeah, I think it's at least a half-shell like NSLA said. Could be wrong, though.

 

[harryoscop]

I'm pretty sure it has a faceshell...

You can see the outline of of his lips and ears plus for the first time since TASM1, Spidey doesn't look like an airhead. So yeah, no faceshell.

 

[ernesth100]

****, no we have to wait for the reveal of whether or not it is a faceshell. :/

 

[theinfernoman]

You can see the outline of of his lips and ears plus for the first time since TASM1, Spidey doesn't look like an airhead. So yeah, no faceshell.

I'm sticking with it being a faceshell. We'll know for sure soon enough.

 

[ernesth100]

Can't someone just tweet to John Watts and ask?

 

[spidey-dude]

You can see the outline of of his lips and ears plus for the first time since TASM1, Spidey doesn't look like an airhead. So yeah, no faceshell.

dude thats 100% a faceshell that possibly has the mouth area open

 

[Spider-Who?]

Studios use face shells for masks like this for two reasons: to maintain a specific shape, and to keep the mask positioned correctly. You'd be surprised how much a mask like this (when it's connected to a body suit) can move around. Add to this that they need a way to connect the eyes, while making them easily removable, and a face shell is not only guaranteed, it is necessary.

It is highly likely the the face shell covers everything from his nose up, leaving his mouth/jaw (and probably ears) open. They did this for Deadpool as well.

 

[TheRedWraith]

The reason for those ugly black marks seems apparent to me, the black lines are so thin they often completely disappear at a distance leaving an uninterrupted mass of red which doesn't look good, so instead of treating the problem they treated the symptom and added the black marks to split up the red, instead of just making the lines thicker to allow them to be more easily seen.

 

[Gold Samurai]

That the new picture makes things much nicer looking than what we saw earlier

The mask is very classic/old school but the suit has been slightly updated

I think if the suit was not updated then the whole thing would look pretty amateurish IMO.

Being too faithful might look bad on the screen.

The Amazing Spider-man 2 got it right because it had a pattern on the suit.


The Holland/ CW suit looks pretty flat color wise besides some black markings

 

[Flint Marko]

I like the flat-color look. I didn't realize how busy the other costumes were with the texture and the raised webbing, but this clean, simplified look manages to pull off both retro/classic and modern/sleek in the same design. It really is remarkable.

 

[ernesth100]

Eh, they'll make it look good. Realistic enough so that it's faithful but not so faithful that it crosses into cosplay. Which technically it is, cosplay is dressing up as a fictional character. So basically superhero movies are just 2hr long cosplay videos, if you break it down to a basic element. Because Tom Holland, while playing Peter Parker, is still Tom Holland.

 

[storyteller]

I am of the camp that the Spider-man 2 suit was the best design. The texture and raised webbing really made it pop. Trying to make it look like it's came from a 2D image to me is not the pinnacle of success of the suit in general. But this is certainly no ASM situation.

The flat web of the comic is simply due to not wanting to draw in a lot of detail. When artists did attempt a raised webbing pattern, it was terrific.

One day I hope we return.

Now back to this. The face shell debate. In Spider-man 2 and 3 they improve the shell to show some movement. ISince Peter isn't wearing one, it make sense to make it look like he's not wearing one.

But unless someone has the perfect head, it's going to look off. Personally I don't mind voice over. I don't need the actor to talk through the mask in some muffled voice. None of the animated series tried to do it. It's a needless distraction.

 

[ernesth100]

Hm, very true.

 

[bubbadoom]

Even the black and red costume had blue high lights.

The suit had purple highlights for issues #1-7 and changed to blue when Magneto was introduced in X-Men #1 and suddenly Red/Purple was villain colors...

 

[TheGearMan]

The suit had purple highlights for issues #1-7 and changed to blue when Magneto was introduced in X-Men #1 and suddenly Red/Purple was villain colors...

That's a good comparison between the Lizard's purple jacket and the suit's blue highlights.

 

[UltimateMarvel]

 

[ernesth100]

That's a good comparison between the Lizard's purple jacket and the suit's blue highlights.

I keep forgetting the lizard actually did have a flat face at somepoint.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

The more I see the costume, the more disappointed I am.

 

[ernesth100]

The more I see the costume, the more disappointed I am.

Maybe it'll be to your liking in the next film. But dont let it dictate whether or not you watch the movie. Let the first trailer do that.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Maybe it'll be to your liking in the next film. But dont let it dictate whether or not you watch the movie. Let the first trailer do that.

Oh my friend... I will be watching the movie opening day!

 

[ernesth100]

Oh my friend... I will be watching the movie opening day!

Good to hear.

 

[Boom]

I'm not overly fond of this suit, but Spider-Man will (presumably) be making plenty more appearances in the MCU, so there's always the chance that they'll get to the traditional look eventually. Hell, it took them three movies to get Thor's look right.