Matt Reeves To Direct The Upcoming Batman Solo - Part 2

[Loden Greatstorm]

Batman shouldn't be afraid of Venom (or any other CBM for that matter). It should be afraid of having another mediocre (at best) movie.

Well said!

 

[Boom]

I feel like there's just 'too much Batman' in recent years and it doesn't help that the last films featuring him were bad

I don't subscribe to that notion. In the past ten years we've seen Iron Man in eight movies, Captain America in six movies, and Thor in six movies. That's roughly one appearance every other year for the last decade. I know what you'll say. "Well the MCU films are better received and the characters are popular." Well that's the fix. Good movies cure all woes. We know Batman is a popular character. They simply need to get him back into good movies. And it seems like WB and Reeves are taking their time to get it right.

I don't think audiences are tired of Batman. I just think they got wise to the **** that WB was dishing out and they weren't having any of it. Put a good Batman movie out and people will show up. I have little doubt of that.

 

[harlequinade]

I don't subscribe to that notion. In the past ten years we've seen Iron Man in eight movies, Captain America in six movies, and Thor in six movies. That's roughly one appearance every other year for the last decade. I know what you'll say, "Well the MCU films are better received and the characters are popular." Well that's the fix. Good movies cure all woes.

I don't think audiences are tired of Batman. I just think they got wise to the **** that WB was dishing out. Put a good Batman movie out and people will show up. I have little doubt of that.

I'm not sure they have that in them, though. They don't even have Batman cast atm.

 

[Boom]

I'm not sure they have that in them, though. They don't even have Batman cast atm.

For as little credit as people give WB, they had the instinct to hire Nolan and that turned out well. And look what happened when they left Jenkins and Wan alone to make their respective films. Hiring Snyder was a misstep (I think he is a vapid filmmaker in general), but it wasn't until they started rushing deadlines and meddling in the filmmaking process that things took a turn for the worst. They seem to be learning from the mistake.

Matt Reeves is a talented filmmaker. Cloverfield was a cult favorite, Let Me In was one of the better remakes out there (albeit unnecessary), and for my money his Apes films are two of the best sci-fi films of the millennium. He has good storytelling instincts, and he values the importance of character. Plus he is saying all the right things about wanting to take Batman back to his detective roots. I see absolutely zero reason to doubt him. People simply need to be patient with the process.

The fact that we haven't heard anything about The Batman doesn't mean they aren't working away at it behind the scenes. I'd rather they take their time and get it right instead of rushing forward to meet an arbitrary deadline. They don't need Batman to be out by 2019, or even 2020 for that matter. And by then, all you've done is allowed that much more time to pass to get people craving Batman again.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Reeves should learn from Ayer. 6 weeks to complete a script and there you go - an Oscar winning film.

 

[MadderMaximus]

Reeves should learn from Ayer. 6 weeks to complete a script and there you go - an Oscar winning film.

lol. Nothing to add, but lol'd.

 

[Invader Joker]

Writing a detective flick is harder than writing any sort of normal film though. It makes sense it has taken him this long.
You have to put a lot of research to make a convincing and intelligent detective script. It isn't as simple as "Ok. I have a story, now I'm gonna be writing it.". No, every deduction has to make sense, every story element (even the smallest ones) needs to fit together nicely, or otherwise you end up with CSI level of writing and deductions.
It took Arthur Conan Doyle a **** ton of time and energy to even write the Sherlock Holmes short stories.

 

[dhandler01]

Just because a movie is great doesnt mean it is going to destroy the box office. Reeves proved that with the last Apes film.

WB should put the film in the best position to get the most exposure and make the most money. Period end of story. It shouldnt fear Venom 2, but it also shouldnt come out right against it either. All these films should put space between themselves and their competition. Basic math and game theory.

 

[Greenlite]

Writing a detective flick is harder than writing any sort of normal film though. It makes sense it has taken him this long.
You have to put a lot of research to make a convincing and intelligent detective script. It isn't as simple as "Ok. I have a story, now I'm gonna be writing it.". No, every deduction has to make sense, every story element (even the smallest ones) needs to fit together nicely, or otherwise you end up with CSI level of writing and deductions.
It took Arthur Conan Doyle a **** ton of time and energy to even write the Sherlock Holmes short stories.

I think the biggest issue with detective batman stories for movies is that the mystery and spoilers will be out after test screenings, and even Nolan couldn't contain Miranda Tate and John Blake's identities, and there are only so many characters in the universe that it's easy to deduct the villains etc, unless you create a brand new character, which might upset vocal fans lol

it's hard, but I love detective stories and I look forward to Reeves' movie, and he's really good with the emotional side of things too, and he gets hold of Weta or the best CGI out there, Batman don't need much still, Apes CGI esp in the 3rd one was incredible.

 

[Greenlite]

Just because a movie is great doesnt mean it is going to destroy the box office. Reeves proved that with the last Apes film.

WB should put the film in the best position to get the most exposure and make the most money. Period end of story. It shouldnt fear Venom 2, but it also shouldnt come out right against it either. All these films should put space between themselves and their competition. Basic math and game theory.

I have a feeling Reeves' gonna make an incredible Bat film that's loved by the critics and fans/GA, and earns about 600M, lol.

I just don't get how the last one made almost half of the 2nd one, like it's back to square one (making about the same as the 1st one). I literally cried at the end of the last film. IT'S SO GOOD!

Edit: maybe it's the apes, wife would not watch the 2nd/3rd one with me because she doesn't like watching apes, and she doesn't want to see them getting killed. maybe Batman and batmobil are too sexy that the GA won't be able to resist, well they look better than apes I guess?

 

[OutOfBoose]

I think the biggest issue with detective batman stories for movies is that the mystery and spoilers will be out after test screenings, and even Nolan couldn't contain Miranda Tate and John Blake's identities, and there are only so many characters in the universe that it's easy to deduct the villains etc, unless you create a brand new character, which might upset vocal fans lol

it's hard, but I love detective stories and I look forward to Reeves' movie, and he's really good with the emotional side of things too, and he gets hold of Weta or the best CGI out there, Batman don't need much still, Apes CGI esp in the 3rd one was incredible.

Great detective stories have much more to them than just spoilers. A good detective story can lay out all characters, show the killer directly and still craft a great story around it. Like Silence of the Lambs, for example. Or keep the killer's identity as a misleading mystery and make his/her identity irrelevant like in Se7en. In Psycho the identity of the killer is certainly a key element, but it's still a thrilling af film even after you saw it 10 times.

Or you can craft a **** detective story about Lois Lane discovering the TRUTH about Luthor and blame reddit for spoilers and poor box office performance.

 

[2kt09]

The Detective Story of the Ages & in Reeves's wheelhouse

 

[Chip Chipperson]

hey so 2019 is almost here

is there anything Matt Reeves would like to tell us? Like anything at all?

 

[OutOfBoose]

Matt Reeves says hello.

What was it? Year and half since War? He takes his time with big films. 3-4 years easy.

 

[Gandhi]

The article is from a few weeks ago but 'The window is about to open' update is from today.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I heard last time batman-on-film was relevant was more than 10 years ago.

 

[Invader Joker]

A good detective flick is about the journey, the little details, the characters, not necessarily about the resolution of the mystery or a plot twist.

 

[Boom]

We're back on the clock after New Years, folks.

 

[Gandhi]

I heard last time batman-on-film was relevant was more than 10 years ago.

The clue is in the name. He does tend to focus on Batman solo films and get bits of information relating only to Batman. Although, he was one of the few in 2017 who was consistently saying that Justice League was not Zack Snyder's film and that much had been changed. He took a lot of heat at the time because it was going against the grain of what certain trade reporters and the cast were saying.

With regard to this piece of information, I think he's had an update or been told there's been some progress and I would treat him as legit when it comes to any Batman solo information.

 

[Boom]

I don't think he's giving an update. He's just mentioning that we are entering that six-month window he referenced in the article.

He is basically retweeting an article.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I don't think he's giving an update. He's just mentioning that we are entering that six-month window he referenced in the article.

He is basically retweeting an article.

That’s kind of obvious though saying we’re going to get some news within the next six months

 

[Nardz937]

I would love a Batman film to release in October. Feels perfect.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I would love a Batman film to release in October. Feels perfect.

It’s weird they’ve never released a Batman movie in October

 

[OutOfBoose]

The clue is in the name. He does tend to focus on Batman solo films and get bits of information relating only to Batman. Although, he was one of the few in 2017 who was consistently saying that Justice League was not Zack Snyder's film and that much had been changed. He took a lot of heat at the time because it was going against the grain of what certain trade reporters and the cast were saying.

With regard to this piece of information, I think he's had an update or been told there's been some progress and I would treat him as legit when it comes to any Batman solo information.

As I remember, Justice League's infamous production was not a secret during majority of 2017. Reports of massive and costly reshots, that surfaced around Spring 2017 were all over the internet. Trailers tone shift. As well as departure of Snyder, arrival of Whedon and so on... You don't need to be the world's greatest detective or have mega-insiders to figure that out. Very few remained hopeful. But I perfectly understand if he got a lot of heat. At that time Snyder Cult was a bit stronger.

BoF just speculates. In the same way that we do on daily basis on this forum.

 

[Greenlite]

I heard last time batman-on-film was relevant was more than 10 years ago.

Lol he was the one who broke Ben is not directing Batman news

He is whiny and has phobia of Bat teaming up with others but he is very solid on Bat stuff