MCU Fight: Captain America Vs. Gamora

[Surfer]

That's cool and all but there aren't many arguments in favor of Cap despite winning the poll by a landslide. This is why I think people are voting for him because he's arguably the most liked character in the MCU. I understand Gamora's disadvantage is her lack of feats due to only being in 2 movies and therefore having less screentime but the few feats she has are impressive enough to show she would most likely win. The only thing that could change the outcome is if they're on a specific environment that favors him.

Well I appreciate your opinion, and I don't disagree. As I said earlier, I think Gamora is slightly physically stronger than Captain America. However, I think Captain America is more skilled as a fighter, and given his weapon is a indestructable Shield that he has mastered using, I think he has the advantage. Strength is only good in a battle if you are able to hit the person, and I think Cap would continue deflecting Gamora's attacks until he could get in some hits of his own and then would keep that process up just wearing her down until she is unconscious.

At least that's how I see it.

Surfer

 

[BigThor]

I don't think this battle should be this one sided though.

 

[jaqua99]

Top Tier with Loki? Drax? Groot? Ronan? And Iron Man?

Cap isn't on that level and isn't on Iron man's level either. In my opinion, I vote him in the street tier

 

[Iron_Stark]

Physically there probably isn't a lot of difference in terms of physical strength, speed and hand to hand skill. Cap certainly is superhumanly strong and quick (as his feats in Civil War clearly show).

However, I believe Cap has shown much greater strategic and tactical skill in his appearances.

Gamora's advantage is that she will fight to kill from the first moment - but having said that I don't think her weapon would overcome Cap's shield.

Starlord overcame Gamora with a couple of gadgets and trickery - while Cap overcame Iron Man with his shield, determination, strategy and skills.

I don't think Gamora comes out on top here - particularly given that Cap defeats Spider Man (who is much stronger and faster than himself) without too much difficulty.

No disrespect to the OP, but I think an even more interesting match up would be Gamora vs The Winter Solider ( without his memories and in killer zombie mode) as both are assassins and would fight to kill the other - I reckon a tie (as in a mutual slaying = Gamora impales Winter Soldier as he breaks her neck with his deadly robot grip).

No, Cap overcame Iron Man with Bucky grabbing Iron Man's leg and distracting him. Iron Man had that fight won.

I don't see how this fight is so one sided, well never mind, yeah I can with posts like this one that I quoted.

Gamora should win this fight, seeing her fights with Nebula.

Gamora - Top tier

Captain America - Superhuman tier

A more interesting fight would've been Cap vs Black Panther

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Did you not see the speed that ship was going? It was super fast. Gamora was holding on to the ship with one hand while holding Drax in the other, this while the ship was crashing and hitting countless trees. HOW is that not more impressive than barely holding a helicopter that was just starting to take off?

I think people are voting Cap only because they like him and not based on feats.

Agreed, I think Cap is winning this due to popularity, for me Gamora has shown herself to be a force to be reckoned with and some Cap would have a lot of trouble with.

For people saying Cap is the better fighter, Gamora has been trained by Thanos since she was a child. Well before Cap began his training.

 

[Darepool]

A more interesting fight would've been Cap vs Black Panther

This will be a great one after Black Panther is released.

 

[Surfer]

Agreed, I think Cap is winning this due to popularity, for me Gamora has shown herself to be a force to be reckoned with and some Cap would have a lot of trouble with.

For people saying Cap is the better fighter, Gamora has been trained by Thanos since she was a child. Well before Cap began his training.

Well in the movies most of what we have seen from Gamora have been feats of strength, but I do not seem to recall any noteworthy feats showcasing her fighting prowess. Also, you can speak of Thanos training her since she was a child, but I have never seen Thanos to be that skilled of a fighter himself. I see him more as someone that relies on brute strength like the Hulk in battles, although with a considerably higher intellect. However, having brute strength and being very intelligent does not translate to someone having great fighting skills. So, Gamora being trained by someone that is not that exceptional of a fighter themselves does not necessarily impress me.

Captain America's Hand to Hand Combat and Agility has been showcased in several of the movies. From the fight in the Elevator with many Hydra agents including Brock Rumlow, to fighting Winter Soldier in the streets or the scene where he is trying to protect Bucky in Civil War going down the stair well. All of these scenes show Captain America to be one of the most skilled fighters that we have seen in the MCU. So, I do not think that people are voting for Captain America simply because he is more popular, I think they are voting for him because there is information that is in these movies to suggest Captain America is the better fighter. Once again I agree that Gamora is slightly stronger based on some of her feats, but in the end if she can't land her hits because he is deflecting them with his indestructible shield that took a direct hit from Mjolnir, than in the end he is going to get his hits in and win the battle.

Surfer

 

[metaphysician]

Gamora. Cap isn't "peak human", not even close, but neither is Gamora. And insofar as we have evidence and indications for her, she's a good tier or so higher in her superhuman-ness than Cap, while not giving up any combat skill.

 

[Surfer]

I don't think this battle should be this one sided though.

Well Gamora looks like she is trying to make a comeback, and with it only being Monday there is still plenty of time for the battle to turn in her favor if it is believed by more fans that she should be the true victor in this battle.

Surfer

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well in the movies most of what we have seen from Gamora have been feats of strength, but I do not seem to recall any noteworthy feats showcasing her fighting prowess. Also, you can speak of Thanos training her since she was a child, but I have never seen Thanos to be that skilled of a fighter himself. I see him more as someone that relies on brute strength like the Hulk in battles, although with a considerably higher intellect. However, having brute strength and being very intelligent does not translate to someone having great fighting skills. So, Gamora being trained by someone that is not that exceptional of a fighter themselves does not necessarily impress me.

Captain America's Hand to Hand Combat and Agility has been showcased in several of the movies. From the fight in the Elevator with many Hydra agents including Brock Rumlow, to fighting Winter Soldier in the streets or the scene where he is trying to protect Bucky in Civil War going down the stair well. All of these scenes show Captain America to be one of the most skilled fighters that we have seen in the MCU. So, I do not think that people are voting for Captain America simply because he is more popular, I think they are voting for him because there is information that is in these movies to suggest Captain America is the better fighter. Once again I agree that Gamora is slightly stronger based on some of her feats, but in the end if she can't land her hits because he is deflecting them with his indestructible shield that took a direct hit from Mjolnir, than in the end he is going to get his hits in and win the battle.

Surfer

WE have seen glimpses of Gamora’s battle prowess, like the prison break, fight with the inter dimensional monster (she is the only one of the team we don’t see taking a hit,so that shows agility) and her fights with Nebula. That’s plus her strength is enough to show me she could more than handle Cap.

 

[Surfer]

WE have seen glimpses of Gamora’s battle prowess, like the prison break, fight with the inter dimensional monster (she is the only one of the team we don’t see taking a hit,so that shows agility) and her fights with Nebula. That’s plus her strength is enough to show me she could more than handle Cap.

Glimpses being the appropriate term, because Gamora fought two prison guards during the prison break compared to Cap taking on 9 highly trained soldiers from Hydra including one that goes on to become the Supervillain Crossbones during the elevator scene.

As for Gamora's feet against the inter dimensional monster, to me that was one more of strength then it was one of fighting prowess. She uses her super strength to launch herself high up in the air at the beast and then stabs it slitting it down the side. That is an incredible act of strength, but it still does not to me showcase a higher level of fighting skill.

Also, in the 2nd Movie her fight with Nebula is again more about feats of power and speed with her picking up the ships gun and her trying to outrun Nebula in the spacecraft, but it did not really showcase her fighting skills.

Gamora's best example of fighting feats are showcased in her battle with Nebula in the first movie. However, even then for me the battle never seems to reach the same level of skill as the Captain America's fight against the Winter Soldier. Definitely good though. Some examples below to compare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uA3Pe5mSVI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=HFjMy3dqmgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=97&v=IuvDKS7-MTk

So, I still think Cap is the better fighter, but definitely Gamora's strength gives her some advantage there. In the end though I still believe Captain America would prevail though because he just does not give up. "I can do this all day."

Surfer

 

[Johnny-Oh]

Cap is a little better at H2H combat than Gamora but that wouldn't be enough to make a difference because Gamora is still considerably stronger, faster and more durable. Another important factor is that Gamora has a piercing weapon and Cap doesn't, it will be far easier for her to do damage than it will be for him, all she has to do is manage to take away his shield and then it would pretty easy for her to win.

 

[BigThor]

Cap is a little better at H2H combat than Gamora but that wouldn't be enough to make a difference because Gamora is still considerably stronger, faster and more durable. Another important factor is that Gamora has a piercing weapon and Cap doesn't, it will be far easier for her to do damage than it will be for him, all she has to do is manage to take away his shield and then it would pretty easy for her to win.

Cap's shield can decapitate people and slice through steel, titatnium, and armored vehicles.

 

[Surfer]

Cap's shield can decapitate people and slice through steel, titatnium, and armored vehicles.

Yeah, in the 2nd video I included above the Winter Soldier throws Caps Shield and it ends up cutting into the side of a van. So, definitely a weapon not just for defense.

Surfer

 

[BigThor]

Yeah, in the 2nd video I included above the Winter Soldier throws Caps Shield and it ends up cutting into the side of a van. So, definitely a weapon not just for defense.

Surfer

Cap has also used his shield to take out armored vehicles in Cap 1 and he took down the Quinjet with it in The Winter Solider.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Gamora stomps. No contest.

Gamora is top tier. she held onto Drax through re-entry (this would have ripped Cap in half).

Cap is superhuman. Lone chitauri were capable of holding him in a headlock.

This has become a popularity contest.

 

[BigThor]

Gamora stomps. No contest.

Gamora is top tier. she held onto Drax through re-entry (this would have ripped Cap in half).

Cap is superhuman. Lone chitauri were capable of holding him in a headlock.

This has become a popularity contest.

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[ludovica]

This has become a popularity contest.

That spaceship cannon is alien tech, it may be lighter than it looks.

 

[BigThor]

I forgot how big that spaceship cannon was, geez I voted for Cap but I definitely think Gamora wins now.

 

[The Endless]

Gamora is stronger and faster. I'd also say just as skilled. She takes Cap quite comfortably I reckon.

 

[Steamteck]

One of Gamora's problems to folks may be her held captive by pretty wimpy looking prisoners in the first movie. doesn't seem to mesh with the later stuff.

Anyway, she is stronger but while fast ,skilled and strong, I still have to give to to Cap. His combat prowess, determination and refusal to give up just does it for me. She could get lucky and just decapitate him or something but I give the edge to him.

 

[Mjölnir]

Cap is probably the more skilled fighter but I think Gamora is just a notch too high on the power scale for him to be the favorite to win.

 

[Batmannerism]

Well in the movies most of what we have seen from Gamora have been feats of strength, but I do not seem to recall any noteworthy feats showcasing her fighting prowess. Also, you can speak of Thanos training her since she was a child, but I have never seen Thanos to be that skilled of a fighter himself. I see him more as someone that relies on brute strength like the Hulk in battles, although with a considerably higher intellect. However, having brute strength and being very intelligent does not translate to someone having great fighting skills. So, Gamora being trained by someone that is not that exceptional of a fighter themselves does not necessarily impress me.

Captain America's Hand to Hand Combat and Agility has been showcased in several of the movies. From the fight in the Elevator with many Hydra agents including Brock Rumlow, to fighting Winter Soldier in the streets or the scene where he is trying to protect Bucky in Civil War going down the stair well. All of these scenes show Captain America to be one of the most skilled fighters that we have seen in the MCU. So, I do not think that people are voting for Captain America simply because he is more popular, I think they are voting for him because there is information that is in these movies to suggest Captain America is the better fighter. Once again I agree that Gamora is slightly stronger based on some of her feats, but in the end if she can't land her hits because he is deflecting them with his indestructible shield that took a direct hit from Mjolnir, than in the end he is going to get his hits in and win the battle.

Surfer

Agreed. Based on what we've seen Cap do so far, he takes this one. It might be a popularity vote for some but for me Cap is the vastly superior strategist and tactician (kind of like the way Batman beats much more powerful opponents).

As for Cap v Tony, I don't think people are giving Cap enough credit for that one, given that Iron Man has gone toe to toe with Thor.

Sure Cap seized the advantage while Tony was distracted, but that's what a master tactician does.
One opening and Cap finished that fight.
Gamora may be able to punch, kick and slice as well as the best fighters, but she's not shown a high degree of strategic or tactical thinking- at least not as great as Cap.


Like it or lump it, Cap won that fight, against an opponent with much more physical power.
Now Tony vs Cap under different circumstances, well that might be a different outcome ( and we know in CW Tony wasn't trying to kill Cap, but at the same time he's absolutely trying to knock him out).

I think people are overlooking Cap v Spider-Man and that Cap went toe to toe with Ultron and walked away in one piece.

So, not a popularity vote for me at all - the evidence is there. Cap wins. Peace!

I still think Gamors vs killer zombie Winter Soldier is a lot closer match up.

What about Ultron vs Ronan ( no infinity stone) ?

 

[Iron_Stark]

Agreed. Based on what we've seen Cap do so far, he takes this one. It might be a popularity vote for some but for me Cap is the vastly superior strategist and tactician (kind of like the way Batman beats much more powerful opponents).

As for Cap v Tony, I don't think people are giving Cap enough credit for that one, given that Iron Man has gone toe to toe with Thor.

Sure Cap seized the advantage while Tony was distracted, but that's what a master tactician does.
One opening and Cap finished that fight.
Gamora may be able to punch, kick and slice as well as the best fighters, but she's not shown a high degree of strategic or tactical thinking- at least not as great as Cap.


Like it or lump it, Cap won that fight, against an opponent with much more physical power.
Now Tony vs Cap under different circumstances, well that might be a different outcome ( and we know in CW Tony wasn't trying to kill Cap, but at the same time he's absolutely trying to knock him out).

I think people are overlooking Cap v Spider-Man and that Cap went toe to toe with Ultron and walked away in one piece.

So, not a popularity vote for me at all - the evidence is there. Cap wins. Peace!

I still think Gamors vs killer zombie Winter Soldier is a lot closer match up.

What about Ultron vs Ronan ( no infinity stone) ?

Take the "I love Cap" googles off and re-watch the fight again bro. ALONE, Iron Man had both of them beat in a matter of seconds. ALONE, they wouldn't have beaten Iron Man. It took BOTH of them to defeat Iron Man.

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Don't want to derail the thread, but no, Cap does not defeat Iron Man alone. Look at the first 25 seconds of the first video, if it was Bucky alone, he'd be dead. If it were Cap alone, he'd have gotten taken down and had those shackles on his legs in a matter of seconds, no distractions, Iron Man would've taken the shield away.

ALONE, Gamora defeats Cap.
Cap, with help,can defeat Gamora

 

[Chance Jackson]

Although I voted for Gamora I would say Ironman is operating at a much higher level than Gamora so IM's performance against Cap isn't the greatest benchmark for how well Gamora would do.

If they get Typical Equipment ie Shield vs Sword, Gamora might only need one good hit to take Cap out of commission while the reverse is certainly not true